Red Bull Racing expects engine penalties in 2018
- Published on 18 Apr 2018 12:55
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- By: Rob Veenstra
Red Bull expects to take engine penalties later in 2018. Although winning in China, Daniel Ricciardo has also suffered reliability trouble so far this year and is already onto his second out of three 'power units'.
"We are sure that we will get penalties. We just have to make sure they happen on the right track," Red Bull official Dr Helmut Marko told Auto Motor und Sport. So with penalties likely, a smart tactic might be for Renault to change tack now, plan to use four or five engines per driver in 2018 and accelerate development.
"You'd have to talk to Mr Abiteboul," said Marko, referring to the Renault boss. "We are always demanding performance. For Renault, we are as annoying as mosquitoes and we very much challenge the French mentality." (GMM)
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Login to replymichielhimself
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ROFLOL "we very much challenge the French mentality."
f1dave
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Every team will get engine penalties. These will determine the "drivers championship."
krommenaas
Posts: 155
If someone from the top team takes penalties, he'll still finish top 6, so the effect won't be that great.
calle.itw
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To an extent, but its also about when teams will grab the extra engines. I expect STR and co to take penalties for venues like Baku and Canada.
dr002
Posts: 141
Does anyone know if teams are able to bank up some components by taking penalties for installing multiple components and multiple units of each component at a race that doesn't align with their car's strength?
michielhimself
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It's more or less what Red Bull did when Ricciardo's turbo blew in Shanghai. They swapped out the entire engine because it's quicker than replacing only the turbo, plus they can re-use whatever elements on that previous engine were still usable to keep the one going that he has in the back now. There was an article on one of the F1 sites discussing it so yes, I think they are allowed to do that (multiple components).
After Mercedes were found banking engines over a single penalty-heavy weekend in 2016, the FIA closed that "loophole" with a rule that said only the last engine part added in any sequence that pushed it over a penalty limit, may be taken forward to the next race weekend.
Meaning you're allowed to replace a part more than once in a weekend but only due to breakage, not to stock up a supply.
michielhimself
Posts: 132
Trying if we can link here:
www.formula1.com/e(...)r_Unit_and_ERS.html
"During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to a grid penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty."
michielhimself
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I tried to link the FIA website on the topic here, just add http colon slash slash formula1 dot com in front of en/championship/inside-f1/rules-regs/Power_Unit_and_ERS dot html
it says
"During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to a grid penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty."
But yes, you can swap out multiple parts, one in each category, and bring them forward to subsequent race events.
michielhimself
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slash slash www dot formula1 dot com *sigh* FIA needs a better webmaster ...