First look at proposed Miami GP circuit

I agree. I don't like the idea of more street circuits added to F1, Indy cars do just fine in those venues.

That would make racing even on a NASCAR circle track bearable!

So no Singapore, no Monaco, no Baku, no Melbourne, no Albert Park, no Gilles Villeneuve's circuit (yup, those are street circuits)? Street circuits can, if used with moderation, be effective breaks from actual tracks that give us a varied experience. I'd say we dont need more than what we already have, but if we outright ban street tracks, we'd have very few venues left.

@Calle Agreed. It's never been about whether it's a street circuit or not. A good layout does most of the job, especially if the streets are wide enough to promote overtaking. Miami's streets are fairly wide. Again, I love the idea of a Miami GP, but agree the layout needs some work, and that's fine, This is very early stages.

Are there really no actual decent circuits in the U.S? Its feels weird to me that they'd have to settle for a street race in a country like the U.S.

I agree with f1dave.

Out of those you listed, Calle, the only one I'd really miss would be Canada's GP, and that is mostly due to the fact that if is a guaranteed 25 points for me in every F1 game. And to be fair, while it technically is classified as a street circuit, it resembles a normal circuit - much like Melbourne does.

In terms of the layout for the Miami GP, it looks absolutely horrible. They must be able to do better than that.

BTW Albert park and Melbourne is the same track, as I'm sure you know ;-)

I would actually miss most. Especially Canada, Monaco and Singapore. Earlier I would not have missed Baku, but if it will provide more races like what we had now, it will be an important contribution to the F1 calendar. And yeah, I'll willingly admit that its one of the reasons for why I like both Canada and Singapore aswell, and why I have a very masochistic relationship with Suzuka... Why doest thou despise me, o lady of Japan?

And yes, I do know that, I just forgot to delete Albert park from that sentence... Long day at work and all of that jazz... :P

A night street circuit through the strip of Las Vegas would be a great idea.

@Calle There are plenty of circuits, ready to host an F1 race. The intent here, however, is to create the kind of atmosphere you find in Monaco or Singapore. You don't accomplish that in a proper track. The reason to do street races is to do it against the backdrop of the ocean in Miami, or the city landscape in New Jersey, or the casino lights in Vegas. Having attended multiple Monaco GP, one in Singapore, I can't tell you how many people show up to those, even pay for a ticket, who know very little about F1. But they know it's a great party and atmosphere. Especially Monaco. It's analogous to attending a race in Silverstone, where most people seem to be petrolheads.

How about Manhattan? No bends just straights and 90° corners? It would be different. Anyone who breaks down on the circuit could nip over the fence for a chilli dog!
This Miami circuit has two Mulsanne ‘corners’! No drivers skills on that bit.

@APJ Fair enough. However, and here is my shrimp, you dont need a street track to get a festival experience. Ever looked at Japan around F1 times? It aint exactly the Monaco style of things, but thats one proper track and one proper festival experience. Contrary to what many say, you can actually get both. We already have Singapore and Monaco, so Liberty should present us with a unique venue instead of aping something we already have.

@CALLE.ITW [Are there really no actual decent circuits in the U.S? Its feels weird to me that they'd have to settle for a street race in a country like the U.S.]
There are lots of good circuits in the USA but F1 insists on billiard table smooth racing surfaces and 5 star hotel accommodations for pit stalls. Not enough F1 draw in the USA for those track owners to spend millions on improvements for one F1 race just to lose money.

What about Laguna Seca? That track is frequently used, so Tarmac is always maintained.

Well, this track basically IS Bernie... Except Bernie was corrupt aswell.

Would it really be that big though?

Are we going to have a discussion about Ecclestone's junk?

I mean figuratively speaking Bernie is a big d**k. In reality he is pretty tiny, so the package is probably scaled to that, but who knows? 'sides, even if he didnt have it to begin with, he has the money to ensure he could have it now.

I feel F1 has become too exclusive. Everything has to be luxurious and rich boyish, and airing is mostly done on pay channels. Little wonder viewing has decreased. I think motor sport in general need to find their roots again, in a sense.

Worst thing is: I dont really think this is the drivers fault to begin with. IMO, the blame lies more on those who run the show: earlier Ecclestone, who loved to isolate F1 and make sure to only cater to the wealthy, so he set up races in Bahrain and Abu Dhabi and so on, while milking the actual tracks of money. And sadly, when it comes to track properties Liberty seem to be on the same note, although they attempt to retain the actual tracks at least, while potentially adding stuff like this to the calendar. I just dont think this is the right path for F1 to take.

Watch Max cut the corner at the corkscrew, then pass the car underneath him. XD