Wolff: Bottas must perform at Hamilton's level going forward

Very true, Toto is a total hypocrite to suggest that when he was him who ordered Bottas to let goldenboy past .. and twice in one race.

Yeah... I makes a lot of sense to have a driver that loses points can be worth millions of pounds at the end of the year. I'm sure that Mercedes hopes their ROI on Bottas is lower rather than higher. Because everyone knows that it's less expensive and efficient to bring in a new driver than to retain one. Or was it the other way around? ;)

I really don't understand why you're so passionate about this Calle. Mercedes did two blatant team orders this year. Both unsavoury. The one in Monaco was embarrassing and I agree with all the condemnation. The second one in Russia would have be executed by every team in F1 under the same circumstances. It was unsightly to be sure, but I cannot think of any other team that would have refrained. Can you? Because it made sense. It was sensible. Because Bottas could be 3rd at best by that point. Because that's what happens when you underperform all year. I feel like we've talked about this already.

If Im honest part of it is hoping to get some folks here to at the very least giggle, and the other part is pure disappointment. As I've explained before, I've long regarded Toto to be the epitome of sportsmanship, yet he really showed his colours as of late. I think we can refer to more team orders than that though, like all of the times Bottas had to sacrifice his races just to ensure Hammy a win he likely coulda gotten anyway. And you are mistaken when you say Russia woulda been done by every team. Say what you will about Red Bull, but they would 90% of the times not have done it in order to min max one of their drivers, at least not with Vers vs Ric. And again, Monaco was never okay. In any circumstance. Ever. Im sure you who dislike B-teams agree with that. Yes, other teams could've and sometimes probably would've done the same, but it wont justify it, and nobody else woulda done it so blatantly. Just the pure contempt at display was awful. And yes we've talked about this at least 4 times, and I wont change my stance on it. Probably. :)

I think we probably agree more than we disagree. But Regarding your example I agree Red Bull have allowed racing, but they’re not fighting for position im the championship. They were guaranteed third so you can afford risk. At any rate, always fun disagreeing with you :)

Yeah I'd say. But thats how it is, in a healthy discussion you'll agree and disagree on certain topics. As long as its a nice, polite conversation, I enjoy either. :)

I kinda dont agree that Red Bull werent fighting for position, they certainly did at least try to retain 3rd, at most tried desperately to parasite on the mistakes of the upper teams. I think Red Bull are so desperate to win a constructor's title that they will probably do anything to maximize total points per race, something thats at risk with team orders only benefitting one driver.

All the more reason for Bottas to git gud, if you ask me.

I take it you missed the races in 2018 when Bottas was ordered to let goldenboy past? or not to overtake him, or in one race let him past twice?

I think that if he was on his 2017 form nobody would complain. He clearly had a dip in performance. Besides, what do you expect a team manager to say about a driver in the team who is struggling? "you need to be a better #2 driver"? Come on

I agree with you.
Not saying anything about motivating a driver intra-team.
This BS is on a Mourinho level of management, which I dislike a lot.