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Horner: "Crowdfunding is verkeerd"

Gepubliceerd op 08 nov 2014 09:21
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Door: Johan van den Beld

Christian Horner is niet onder de indruk van de manier waarmee Caterham in Abu Dhabi op de grid wil verschijnen. Het team wil via crowdfunding geld inzamelen - gegeven door fans - om op die manier op 23 november toch op de grid te staan. Een verkeerde manier, aldus de teambaas van Red Bull Racing.

"Ik ben het er niet mee eens dat fans een renstal op de been moeten houden. De fans betalen om vermaakt te worden door de teams, en zouden niet te hoeven betalen om ze op de grid te zien. Dit concept is verkeerd en zou niet moeten worden toegestaan."

"Het is belangrijk dat de Formule 1 niet haar vuile was buiten hangt. Het is belangrijk dat de teams zelf met de rechtenhouders rond de tafel gaan zitten en hun problemen aan iedereen voorleggen. We moeten een beter milieu creëren voor de teams en vooruitkijken."

Caterham heeft op hun Crowdcude-pagina op het moment van schrijven 322,401 pond binnengehaald door middel van 824 fans. Dit is 13% van het totale bedrag dat het team binnen moet slepen om in Abu Dhabi op de grid te staan. Caterham heeft nog zes dagen en vijftien uur om die 2,3 miljoen pond te werven.

F1 Nieuws Red Bull Racing

Reacties (25)

jacky

Posts: 3.224
nou giedo grijp je kans als je dit jaar nog een race wilt gaan rijden:)
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- 8 nov 2014 - 09:37
- jacky
  
  Posts: 3.224
  en volgend jaar test rijder bij Williams.nasr gaat naar sauber dus dat plekje komt vrij.
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  8 nov 2014 - 09:41
- Michel Vaillant
  
  Posts: 2.481
  Williams heeft geen interesse in Giedo.
  
  McGregor is jarenlang sponsor geweest bij Williams en Giedo heeft niet 1 keer voor Williams getest.
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  8 nov 2014 - 10:47
- masf1
  
  Posts: 7.074
  @MV
  
  Je wist ook dat VDG geen contract had,je zwamt maar wat
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  8 nov 2014 - 15:04
pixel

Posts: 697
Dus het is volgens de topteams volledig de verantwoordelijkheid van de kleine teams om een enorm budget bij elkaar te harken waar zelfs met paydrivers simpelweg geen sponsoren voor te vinden zijn, maar als een team uit wanhoop andere bronnen aanboort dan hebben de grote jongens ineens kritiek?
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- 8 nov 2014 - 10:08
- M4U Racing
  
  Posts: 4.499
  Het gaat om het principe. Horner heeft hier wel een punt. Wat hij ook zegt is dat de teams met Bernie aan tafel moeten gaan zitten om dit in de toekomst te voorkomen.
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  8 nov 2014 - 16:28
Getuige X

Posts: 2.115
Blikjes Red Bull verkopen is toch ook een soort crowdfunding?
Mond houden Horner.
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- 8 nov 2014 - 10:09
- laagvliegerT
  
  Posts: 1.672
  Scherp. +1
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  8 nov 2014 - 11:15
- Dominic Renting
  
  Posts: 2.263
  Maar dan is het verkopen van auto's ook een soort crowdfunding. Als je het zo bekijkt is in principe alles crowdfunding.
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  8 nov 2014 - 11:48
- Getuige X
  
  Posts: 2.115
  Ja dus Horner moet zijn mond houden
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  8 nov 2014 - 12:13
- Dominic Renting
  
  Posts: 2.263
  Verschil is echter wil dat het nu directe crowdfunding is. De fan betaalt echt voor het bestaan van Caterham. Anders dan het indirect sponsoren van het Red-Bull Racing team door het kopen van een blikje Red-Bull.
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  8 nov 2014 - 12:30
- Getuige X
  
  Posts: 2.115
  Dus als Horner nou een hele intelligente opmerking wil maken dan zou hij moeten zeggen :
  
  Caterham moet niet aan crowdfunding doen maar blikjes frisdrank gaan verkopen.
  Maargoed snap wel dat hij niet zomaar het geheim van de inkomsten van Red Bull mag prijsgeven.
  
  Even lekker o/t trouwens.
  
  De Max Maffia spreekt tegenwoordig ook al Engels want op de buitenlandse fora en site's is iedereen enthousiast.
  Woorden schieten te kort bij sommigen.
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  8 nov 2014 - 12:38
- Beemerdude
  
  Posts: 7.082
  Getuige X: je snapt er echt helemaal niets van he???
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  8 nov 2014 - 13:00
- Beemerdude
  
  Posts: 7.082
  Moet ik ook m'n mond houden zeker?
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  8 nov 2014 - 13:02
- Getuige X
  
  Posts: 2.115
  Wow Beemerdude ....
  
  Waar kom jij opeens vandaan?
  Val ik je ergens op aan?
  
  Jij hoeft je mond niet te houden.
  Jij vind namelijk crowdfunding een goed idee?
  
  Ik vind niet dat Horner hierover moet oordelen.
  Er zijn wel meerdere teams met dubieuze sponsoren.
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  8 nov 2014 - 14:36
- Runningupthathill
  
  Posts: 17.626
  Welke dubieuze sponsoren? Red Bull? Wat is daar dubieus aan?
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  8 nov 2014 - 15:31
- Getuige X
  
  Posts: 2.115
  Running...
  
  Nou de voedsel authoriteiten staan niet te kwispelen om Red Bull.
  Om nog maar niet over Sahara (live vanuit de gevangenis) Force India
  (kingfisher) en Genii Capital en consorten te spreken.
  
  En laat staan Rexona van lotus....daar zit een luchtje aan
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  8 nov 2014 - 15:52
- Dominic Renting
  
  Posts: 2.263
  Jij walgde zeker ook van de tabakssponsorden Marlboro en West vroeger op de Ferrari en Mercedes. Wat te denken van Lucky Strike op de BAR auto, of de legendarische John Player Special reclame op de Lotus. Daar gruwelde je zeker ook van?
  
  Monster sponsort Mercedes op dit moment, wat een dubieuze sponsor zeg met die energiedrankjes van ze.
  
  Shell sponsort al jaren Ferrari, met hun geboor in de aarde naar olie, wat een dubieuze sponsor zeg.
  
  Johnnie Walker sponsort Mclaren, met al dat alcohol van ze, wat een dubieuze sponsor zeg.
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  8 nov 2014 - 16:01
- Getuige X
  
  Posts: 2.115
  Dominic,
  
  Ik zou het iig prachtig vinden als Caterham terug komt.
  Niemand word gedwongen geld te betalen voor Caterham.
  Als er fans zijn die geld willen doneren dan is dat toch alleen maar leuk?
  Crowdfunding is overigens iets wat zijn intrede op alle fronten doet.
  Dus nu zelfs in F1
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  8 nov 2014 - 16:08
Arie_f1

Posts: 2.847
Omgekeerde wereld dit, als je zelf niet je eigen boel kan opruimen. Mooi dat de fans zo de kans krijgen om te spreken! Ik denk dat iedere f1 fan graag Caterham op de grid ziet. Hopelijk halen ze het.
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- 8 nov 2014 - 10:13
- Beemerdude
  
  Posts: 7.082
  Nee hoor, ik niet...
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  8 nov 2014 - 13:01
BrRacing

Posts: 9.909
Verrek, lees ik dit nu goed? Fans doen er opeens toe in de F1? Ik dacht dat fans het ondergeschoven kind waren binnen een wereld waar een bepaald clubje zichzelf vooral aan het vermaken is. Sinds wanneer word de bijdrage van fans in het geheel betrokken?

Als meneer Horner zich druk maakt om de fans, misschien moet hij ervoor gaan pleiten dat het starre gesloten F1-wereldje haar deuren opent voor de fans, fans die al jaren hun geliefde spelletje naar de kloten zien gaan en daar zelf niets in in te brengen hebben.
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- 8 nov 2014 - 10:24
Gast

Posts: 97
Wat is de deal precies?
Normaal leen je je geld en krijg je er ook iets voor terug.
Belooft Caterham echt iets, of is het sponsoring?
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- 8 nov 2014 - 11:07
- M4U Racing
  
  Posts: 4.499
  Nee. Sky was al verbaasd dat er geen enkele tegenprestatie tegenover staat.
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  8 nov 2014 - 16:31
Jim Clark

Posts: 2.981
Het is echt van de zotte. De oproep wordt gedaan door de bewindvoerders en je weet waar die op uit zijn. Die zitten echt niet met natte ogen voor de tv als ze straks in AbuDabi op de grid staan.

Het is overigens niet nieuw zo'n actie. Zo'n veertig jaar terug had je de actie "een tientje voor Gijs" . Dat was ook geen succes...
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- 8 nov 2014 - 19:53

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