Ecclestone op de barricade voor andere motoren

  • Gepubliceerd op 18 dec 2014 15:11
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Bernie Ecclestone dient vanmiddag bij de bijeenkomst van de Strategy Group een voorstel in om terug te gaan naar 'normale' verbrandingsmotoren. De huidige motorformule is hem al langer een doorn in het oog en hij neemt het initiatief om daar wat aan te doen. Wat Ecclestone betreft keert de Formule 1 terug naar V8- of V10-motoren.

Sky Sports F1 citeert Ecclestone: "We herkennen dat het bedrag dat de kleine teams voor hun motoren moeten betalen het grootste probleem vormt. Als je iedereen bij elkaar brengt voor een stemming, dan zal maar één partij voor de huidige krachtbronnen stemmen en dat is Mercedes. Dat kan je ze niet kwalijk nemen. Mercedes heeft puik werk geleverd en zodoende een grote voorsprong opgebouwd. Maar het is niet goed voor de Formule 1."

"We kunnen al ons geld bij elkaar leggen en inzetten op een wereldtitel van Mercedes in 2015, en misschien ook in 2016, dat zou zeer lucratief zijn. Die voorspelbaarheid is niet waar we op uit zijn. Ik ga voorstellen om terug te keren naar normale verbrandingsmotoren met een vorm van hybride er bij. Dan noemen de teams het McLaren Hybrid, Ferrari Hybrid, Williams Hybrid, enzovoorts. Het best bewaarde geheim is waarom de huidige V6 turbo tot stand is gekomen, waarom deze ontworpen is en wat we ermee bereikt hebben. Dat het een knap staaltje engineering is staat buiten kijf."

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  • "Het best bewaarde geheim is waarom de huidige V6 turbo tot stand is gekomen, waarom deze ontworpen is en wat we ermee bereikt hebben."

    - Tot stand gekomen omdat Bernie miljoenen van VW wilde
    - Ontworpen als V6 omdat Bernie V4's wilde, maar ze nog liever afschafte omdat VW niet mee wilde doen. V6 was het compromis
    - Bereikt is dezelfde dominantie als Red Bull in de laatste jaren van de V8-motor, en dat in één jaar.

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 15:31
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      De geruchten gaan dat dit voor Mercedes is gedaan en anders waren hun uit de F1 gestapt.
      Op RTL + hebben ze dit ook al uitgesproken dat dit zo het geval is.

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 16:06
    • aruba24

      Posts: 640

      Het precies wat LIMBOF1 zegt , als de V6T niet zou komen in 2014 dan was het vaarwel Mercedes en Mercedes had de motor voorsprong van een jaar tegenover Renault en Ferrari en Mercedes wilde maar een enkele turbo op de motoren terwijl Renault en Ferrari in de jaren 80 al V6T maakte met dubbele turbo links en recht naast de motor en uiteraard dubbele uitlaten dat produceert meer geluid.

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 17:51
    • LIMBOF1: hun?

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 18:40
  • Mijn god wat een mongolen zijn het daar zeg. De V8 was niet om aan te horen in het echt en de V6 KAN velen malen beter:
    - Geen fluel flow limit, dat is HET aspect dat niet formule 1 is
    - Kappen met banden die niet te begrijpen zijn door fans en teams.
    - Vrijheid om iedere configuratie te gebruiken die men maar wil. V12, V12, V8, L6,V4 whatever. Knal er ERS op en het is mooi.

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 15:40
    • louc_

      Posts: 2.303

      V8 niet om aan te horen? Daar zat toch nog iets F1 geluid op!

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 15:51
    • Kennie

      Posts: 2.659

      inderdaad Louc_ die V8 van de afgelopen jaren en de V10 van begin deze eeuw waren prachtig klinkende motoren (de V12 klonk het mooist) en waren onderdeel van de F1 magie. Als het terugkomt sta ik in ieder geval te juichen.

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 15:56
  • Warlord

    Posts: 2.153

    ALS het zo nodig moet gebeuren (hoeft van mij niet), zorg er dan voor dat het een V10 of V12 word. De V8 voegt niets toe en is in mijn ogen minder dan deze V6 Turbo's.

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 15:54
    • Eens, als ze dan toch terug grijpen op de oude motoren doe het dan gelijk goed, terug met de v10/v12 die vele malen fraaier klonk

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 17:01
    • Formule E is de toekomst mannen.
      Als iedereen heel stil is op de tribune hoor je zelfs het fluiten van de elektro motor.
      Machtig mooi man!!

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 17:30
    • @DS

      Nou, van deze jongen zullen ze daar op de tribune sowieso geen last hebben ;-)

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 17:31
    • @ JEAN ALESI: Je hapt in het sarcastische koekje dat DUITS STERRETJE voor je klaar zette! ;-)

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 18:45
    • Echt kansloos dat ze t niet vrijgeven zodat elke fabrikant een configuratie kan kiezen die bij de identiteit en de aanwezige kennis past. Stel alleen een max aantal te verstoken liters per weekend 1 en reglementen voor cylinderinhoud hoewel zelfs dat eigenlijk overbodig zal zijn denk ik. Die brandstoflimiet zal regulerend werken wat dat betreft lijkt mij.

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 21:19
    • @Brabham Dat lijkt mij ook het mooist, goed voorbeeld is Le Mans waar het absoluut geen windeieren legt! Daarnaast zullen de wagens ook totaal anders worden en zal per circuit een andere wagen het voordeel hebben! Ook voor fabrikanten lijkt het mij interessant, want deze kunnen in voor hun relevante techniek investeren!

      • + 0
      • 18 dec 2014 - 22:41
    • @NBTT,
      pff, een slordigheidje mijnerzijds, had het kunnen weten aangezien vrijwel elke post van DS is doorspekt met sarcasme ;-)

      • + 0
      • 19 dec 2014 - 08:19
  • redo

    Posts: 57

    Ja natuurlijk is het geluid van vroeger veel mooier, maar we moeten wel met de tijd mee. Technologie verandert eenmaal.

    Dit is het beste uit te leggen dmv een extreem voorbeeld.
    Over een heel aantal jaren rijden we op de openbare weg waarschijnlijk helemaal niet meer met verbrandingsmotoren. Denk je dan dat we dan met hetzelfde gevoel naar F1 kijken als ze daar nog steeds met een V8 of een V10 rijden?

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 15:57
  • rik1995

    Posts: 33

    helemaal mee eens terug met die V8

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 16:40
  • Gewoon weer terug gaan naar bijna onbeperkte aerodynamica. Na die grote veranderingen in 2009, waarin alle aero op zijn kop werd gegooid om het spannend te houden is er eigenlijk nog maar weinig aan. 2007,2008 waren brute machines om te zien, om te horen en er waren spannende gevechten op de baan! Precies wat ze nu ongeveer willen creëren met allerlei idiote regels. En ik zou fabrikanten hun eigen motorformule laten kiezen met bijvoorbeeld alleen een brandstof limiet of hoe ze dat nu in Le Mans doen waarbij je uit een aantal formules kunt kiezen.

    • + 0
    • 18 dec 2014 - 16:53

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