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Porsche: "LMP1 is de toekomst, niet de Formule 1"

  • Gepubliceerd op 09 jan 2015 13:39
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Wolfgang Hatz, hoofd van de afdeling research & development bij Porsche, verkondigde gisteren al dat zijn werkgever geen interesse heeft in de Formule 1 en vandaag deed Porsche-directeur Matthias Muller dat dunnetjes over. Hij laat over zijn standpunt geen twijfel bestaan.

Muller vertelde aan persbureau DPA: "We zijn volkomen gelukkig met onze keuze voor het World Endurance Championship, we hebben er geen greintje spijt van. De LMP1 is de toekomst, niet de Formule 1. De Formule 1 raakt steeds dieper in de problemen verzeild."

Hatz zei eerder al: "De Formule 1 is nooit een issue voor ons geweest en zal dat ook niet worden. Le Mans is een aantrekkelijkere omgeving voor ons. Daar komen we meer en meer concurrenten tegen en we leren er meer voor de productie van straatauto's."
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  • Kennie

    Posts: 2.659

    Denk dat ze daar helemaal gelijk in hebben. Vanuit het perspectief van een auto fabrikant snap ik de redenatie heel goed. Alles gericht op duurzaamheid en minder op performance en/of veiligheid. Wat dat betreft is de F1 steeds minder interessant voor auto fabrikanten op het gebied van techniek. Marketing is een ander verhaal. Het zou ook zeer interessant zijn als er in de LMP1 wat meer fabrieksteams van autofabrikanten komen. Porsche, Toyota en (nu nog) Audi is wel wat mager, stel dat er nog een paar bij komen (stuk of 3) dan wordt dat wel erg interessant, afgelopen seizoen heb ik ook het e.e.a. gekeken en er wordt steeds meer echt geraced ipv materiaal heel houden en aan de finish komen.

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 13:59
  • bobdeboarder

    Posts: 151

    Ze hebben nog gelijk ook, Formule 1 raakt steeds verder verstrikt in zijn eigen regels. De 20 beste coureurs reden ooit in de F1, nu misschien nog 5 a 6 dan nog 6 a 7 oud gedienden die hun beste tijd gehad hebben en de rest betaald zich scheel d.m.v. sponsoren en rijke familieleden.
    Wereldkampioen word je alleen als je de elk jaar veranderende regels (om meer kunstmatige show te generen) het beste weet te interpeteren.
    Van een stabiele sport is geen sprake, jammer.
    Porsche heeft groot gelijk wat mij betreft.

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 14:00
    • Distortion

      Posts: 1.508

      Mwoa halverwege de jaren 90 hebben we zelfs een periode gehad waarin er maar 1 wereldkampioen in het veld rond reed (Schumacher). Tegenwoordig hebben we er 5 in hetzelfde veld. Daarnaast nog een aantal grote talenten en inderdaad een paar paydrivers. Maar het niveau van de paydrivers van tegenwoordig ligt toch echt stukken hoger dan het niveau van de paydrivers van zeg 20 jaar geleden.

      Wie kan zich die gast nog herinneren die uit wilde stappen omdat hij "teveel grip" had, om zomaar een voorbeeld te noemen. Regels zijn ook altijd al aan verandering onderhevig dat was in de jaren 70 al zo en dat blijft in de verre toekomst ook zo. Al was het maar omdat de wagens anders zo snel worden dat ze niet meer te besturen zijn.

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      • 9 jan 2015 - 14:51
  • Beemerdude

    Posts: 7.082

    Glashelder.

    Het is te hopen dat de verantwoordelijke heren in F1 dit ook lezen en zich eens achter de oren krabben. Zo lang in F1 het vetorecht van onder andere Ferrari blijft bestaan zal het altijd pappen en nathouden worden. LMP1 is voor constructeurs ook veel interessanter, alleen al vanwege de keuzevrijheid die het reglement biedt. Ook daar is er een maximale hoeveelheid energie die verbruikt mag worden maar daar hoor je niemand over omdat er de hele race vol getrapt kan worden. Voor elke bocht 10 meter eerder liften scheelt veel peut en kost amper tijd tenslotte....
    Volgend jaar Nissan er bij en ik zou niet gek opkijken als Lambo ook wat gaat doen en er vanuit de UK ook (weer) een echt LMP1 team komt, Jaguar of Bentley zou super zijn.

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 14:07
    • rammsteinfan

      Posts: 1.608

      Vol stampen de hele race? In het LMP1? Haha laat me niet lachen. Als ze ergens inhouden is het wel in Le Mans. Die wagens zouden een stuk harder kunnen. Maar door verkeer en brandstof/banden sparen valt dat best mee hoor. Het punt is alleen dat de motoren verder ontwikkeld zijn, met name de hybride technolie

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      • 9 jan 2015 - 22:27
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Mwah dat valt ook wel weer mee.
    Lmp1 is wel wat leuker geworden maar om nou uren en uren naar auto's te kijken die onderling op 30 minuten afstand van elkaar rijden..
    Ik wil gewoon (en het gros van de autosport fans wil dat) elke week of om de week een mooie race van twee uur. Liefst op een prettig tijdstip. Elke race op een ander circuit met de beste rijders. Dat is in grote lijnen ook gewoon zo in de F1.
    Verder gaan de F1 wagens nog steeds sneller de hoek om dan welke racewagen dan ook.

    Leuk dat ze bij Porsche zo blij en euforisch zijn maar de F1 is en blijft de top en het meest populair en dat is over vijf à tien jaar nog steeds zo.
    Zo moeten niet gelijk naast de schoenen gaan lopen omdat een oude (in de F1 uitgerangeerde) Webber nou opeens in hun auto zit.

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 14:34
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Met je eens. Ik vind het mooi om die wagens te zien en horen rijden, maar ik mis wedstrijd spanning.

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      • 9 jan 2015 - 16:03
    • sloggerke

      Posts: 646

      Niet eens Rimmer....
      In de LMP1 rijden ze races van 6 uur en soms komen ze aan met een halve ronde tussen de eerste en de tweede, zelfs nog minder.
      Bovendien beginnen ze op het laatste met het overslaan van de pitstops, zodat je vaak tot het einde niet kan zeggen wie het eerste over de meet zal komen.
      In de F1 is Mercedes op de korte circuits de laatste Marussia of Caterham al zeer snel aan het dubbelen.

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      • 9 jan 2015 - 18:56
    • Runningupthathill

      Posts: 17.626

      Los van dat is de LMP1 gewoon niet "makkelijk" te bekijken. Een F1-race duurt hooguit een paar uur, even lang als een normale film. Een LMP1-Race duurt 6 uur of 10 uur of 24 uur. Dan kijk ik al hooguit een paar uren van de race, zo wil ik een race niet volgen. Het is ook onoverzichtelijker dan de F1.

      Mercedes mag een Caterham dan wel snel aan het dubbelen zijn, een LMP1 is een andere categorie-wagen nog veel sneller aan het dubbelen. Voorin in de F1 klagen we als Mercedes 30 seconden voor de derde over de meet komt, in de LMP1 is dat een superklein verschil.

      Los daarvan rijden in de LMP-klassen de meeste teams met meerdere rijders, zeker voor de langere races. Dat maakt het moeilijk om je met een rijder te "identificeren". Voor mij is dat niet echt van belang, maar vele racefans vinden dat wel. Laat daarnaast ook de regels echt niet makkelijker te begrijpen zijn dan de F1 (probeer een leek maar eens uit te leggen waarom er drie klassen door elkaar rijden en wat het verschil tussen een LMP1 en een LMP2 is).

      Volgens mij gaat de LMP1 qua populariteit bij kijkers de F1 nooit voorbij gaan. Formule E heeft nog meer kans (wel goede actie, korte races, gemakkelijk te begrijpen, 2 wagens per team, 2 rijders per team, ...)

      Formule 1 moet in dat opzicht veel meer schrik hebben van MotoGP

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      • 10 jan 2015 - 01:38
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      Dé hoofdreden dat ik geen LMP1 kijk is de duur van de races,
      een 2 uur durende grandprix is goed vol te houden maar ik ga toch geen 6 uur durende race volgen??
      Ik denk zelf dat de f1 toch altijd de meest populaire klasse zal blijven (al dan niet terecht), FE gaat het gewoon niet halen, Motogp trekt een ander publiek, etc...
      ik vermoed dat de interesse voor autosport over de gehele linie gaat afnemen

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      • 10 jan 2015 - 09:39
  • ScuderiaSjonno

    Posts: 1.802

    Mooi, nu we dit bericht hebben gehad, hoeft het VW concern geen -anti-reclame meer te maken voor zichzelf door voor de 315.242ste keer aan te kondigen dat ze een Formule 1 project niet zien zitten, niet met Porsche, niet met Lamborghini of een ander merk dat onder het VW concern valt, is dat ook weer duidelijk, want ik had er nog mijn twijfels over... (sarcasme uit)

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 14:49
  • Gompie

    Posts: 4.951

    Mee eens, F1 wordt veel te veel door 'politiek' gedomineerd en de races zijn zooo booooring geworden.

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    • 9 jan 2015 - 22:04

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