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Ecclestone: "Ideeën van Michelin slecht voor F1"

  • Gepubliceerd op 15 mei 2015 11:33
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Michelin overweegt zich kandidaat te stellen voor de rol van bandenleverancier in de Formule 1, maar heeft daar wel wat voorwaarden aan verbonden. Zo moet de techniek, en niet de show, weer het uitgangspunt gaan vormen bij de constructie van de banden en wil de Franse bandenfabrikant toe naar 18 inch velgen. De kans dat de Formule 1 daar gehoor aan geeft is echter klein.

Het standpunt van Bernie Ecclestone belooft weinig goeds voor Michelin. Hij vertelde aan Autosport: "Pirelli weet ondertussen precies wat wij verlangen. Dat is voor hen soms lastig. Als ze een band op de limiet maken, dan worden ze afgeslacht als het mis gaat. Maar in de tussentijd zijn ze wel bereid om met ons mee te denken en onze wensen in te willigen."

"Wat Michelin zou doen, is een keiharde band produceren die je in januari onder de auto kan schroeven en er in december pas af hoeft te halen. Zij moeten niets hebben van eventuele kritiek. Hun ideeën zijn slecht voor de Formule 1 en druisen in tegen hetgeen we proberen te bewerkstelligen. Pirelli heeft juist de moed gehad om te doen wat we vroegen en dat is het racen ten goede gekomen."

"Die 18 inch wielen vind ik ook helemaal niks, het ziet er afschuwelijk uit. We willen agressief ogende bolides, wagens die je als echte raceauto's kunt bestempelen. Pirelli zou ook banden voor 18 inch velgen kunnen maken. Maar we laten de banden ongemoeid, want op dat punt is momenteel geen verandering nodig."

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  • Calvinh

    Posts: 2.263

    Michelin: ''Ideeën van Ecclestone slecht voor F1''

    • + 5
    • 15 mei 2015 - 11:39
  • Gompie

    Posts: 4.951

    Huh, begon Pirelli van de week zélf niet over 18 inch wielen?

    • + 5
    • 15 mei 2015 - 11:44
    • fre0n

      Posts: 538

      Pirelli heeft in juli 2014 zelfs met 18 inch getest.

      • + 2
      • 15 mei 2015 - 13:17
    • Gompie

      Posts: 4.951

      @FRE0N: Da's waar ook, bedankt. Dus een kulargument van Bernie!

      • + 2
      • 15 mei 2015 - 14:17
  • lars75

    Posts: 8.908

    Kunnen ze elkaar een hand geven!!!

    • + 0
    • 15 mei 2015 - 11:59
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Wat Michelin wil klinkt in ieder geval als een enorme kostenbesparing...

    • + 1
    • 15 mei 2015 - 12:10
    • DutchTreath

      Posts: 5.058

      Wat Michelin wil klinkt eerder als doodslag voor de F1 en het vooruitzicht in saaie wedstrijden. Ik ben voor vrije doorontwikkeling van de motor en eigen bandenkeuze
      voor de teams. Laat de banden en strategie de aerodynamics en de motor bepalen wie het beste voor de dag komt. En niet een paar heren die graag hun hand ophouden om geld onder de tafel te ontvangen van de meest financieel krachtige teams in het veld.
      De sport moet weer terug waar het hoort, de top van het auto racen.

      • + -1
      • 15 mei 2015 - 12:17
    • lars75

      Posts: 8.908

      Dus minder restricties en motoren die aansluiten bij ontwikkelingen in de industrie, zodat fabrikanten hun technologie kunnen tonen.

      • + 0
      • 15 mei 2015 - 12:26
  • DutchTreath

    Posts: 5.058

    Het begint steeds meer op een ouwe lullen groep te lijken binnen de F1, met ouwe lullen gedachten en ideeën. De uitspraken van de Bernie en de FIA beginnen mij zo langzamerhand
    de strot uit te komen. De F1 heeft verjonging en nieuwe frisse ideeën nodig aan de top.
    Wanneer gaat het is door die vergrijsde koppies doordringen dat zij meer met het afbreken
    dan met het opbouwen van de F1 bezig zijn.

    • + 3
    • 15 mei 2015 - 12:11
  • Distortion

    Posts: 1.508

    Hij heeft wel een punt wat mij betreft, die 18 inch banden vind ik ook niet bepaald mooi. En het snelle slijten van deze banden zorgt uiteindelijk wel voor een betere show met meer inhaalacties.

    • + 0
    • 15 mei 2015 - 12:18
    • Cloffie

      Posts: 411

      waarom dan geen compromis? 16" of 17"??

      • + 0
      • 15 mei 2015 - 15:28
  • -NRG-

    Posts: 261

    Toch denk ik dat Michelin hier gelijk heeft. Nu rijden veel coureurs naar een bepaalde strategie ipv dat ze aanvallen. Een keer je banden laten blokkeren betekend veel tijdverlies omdat ze direct afvlakken. Dus ze kunnen beter ergens met DRS inhalen zodat ze kinder kans hebben om hun banden aan gort te rijden. Stevige banden zou dus betekenen dat ze weer risico's kunnen nemen...

    • + 0
    • 15 mei 2015 - 12:46
    • -NRG-

      Posts: 261

      Daarnaast is het ook nog eens zo dat dit ten goede komt van de kleine teams. Die hebben minder downforce en daardoor slijten de banden iets harder, waardoor ze nog langzamer worden. Ook besparen ze daarmee aan kosten.

      • + 0
      • 15 mei 2015 - 12:48
    • marcio

      Posts: 3.426

      Ik moet Ecclestone hierin helaas gelijk geven. Denk je dat Vettel gewonnen had wanneer men met banden hadden rondgereden die niet of nauwelijks slijten? Ik denk het niet! Mercedes zou met behulp van deze banden het hele veld twee keer op een ronde zetten. Op dit punt heeft Bernie dus gelijk wanneer hij zegt dat deze ideeën slecht voor de F1 zijn.

      • + 0
      • 15 mei 2015 - 13:15
  • maxioos

    Posts: 1.824

    Ik zou graag wel 3 of 4 bandenleveranciers zien. Onbeperkt eigenlijk.

    Ik vindt dat als de F1 het hoogst haalbare is, men ook met hoogst haalbare materiaal moet werken. En als het ene team met 1 setje banden het hele jaar wil doen of het andere team wil 2 setjes per wedstrijd, dat is aan het team zolang het maar aan bepaalde eisen als formaat voldoet. En dat zou moeten gelden voor zowat alles. Het is toch topsport, behandel het dan ook als topsport. Bij het wielrennen zijn er bijna geen teams met de zelfde fietsenleveranciers, bij judo kun je wel uit 20 merken kiezen welke compleet verschillend zijn maar wel aan de basis eisen van een judopak voldoen.

    Ga je structuur van competitie in stappen transformeren naar de structuur welke in elke topsport wordt toegepast van promotie/degradatie. Dat wil dus zeggen een basis regelgeving voor chassis en bodywork welke in in de bovenste 3 competities ingezet zouden kunnen worden maar telkens met een krachtigere motor en meer remvermogen. Geef dan in alles eromheen veel meer vrijheid voor echte innovatie.

    De kosten/inkomsten uit de verschillende competities moeten meer op elkaar aansluiten zodat een team welke van F2 naar F1 promoveert in principe alleen een nieuwe motor en remsysteem aan te schaffen (simpel gezegd, uiteraard komt er meer bij kijken).

    Je hebt ook de mogelijkheid om zo je aantal startplekken te verhogen en stabiel te houden. 12 of 14 teams in F1 en F2 en 18 teams in F3. Dan heb je een mooie overzichtelijke, makkelijk te promoten en communiceren "Hoofdmacht" in de autosport onder de vlag van jou bond.

    • + 2
    • 15 mei 2015 - 12:51
  • mediF1

    Posts: 2.841

    Volgens mij weet die man s'vonds nog niet meer wat hij s'morgens op zijn brood had.

    • + 1
    • 15 mei 2015 - 19:41

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