Onafhankelijke nieuwkomers kansloos in de F1

  • Gepubliceerd op 16 jun 2015 14:08
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Partijen die nadenken over toetreding tot de Formule 1 doen er verstandig aan om toenadering te zoeken tot een van de topteams. Op eigen houtje red je het als nieuwkomer niet in deze sport. Het lukt de bestaande onafhankelijke renstallen al nauwelijks om hun hoofd boven water te houden.

Die boodschap draagt Sauber-teambaas Monisha Kaltenborn uit tegenover Autosport. "Het is praktisch onmogelijk om te overleven in de Formule 1 zonder de hulp  van een derde partij of een andere manier van externe financiering. Je kan geen levensvatbare organisatie met een solide business plan opzetten zolang de inkomstenverdeling ongemoeid blijft."

"Ik vind dat geen goede ontwikkeling voor de Formule 1. Het is een voorbode van klantenauto's en klantenteams. En hoe financieren zij dat? De grote teams brengen een coureur onder bij een klant en de klantenteams dragen een deel van de inkomsten af aan de topteams. Zo hoort het niet. Je moet zelfstandig overeind kunnen blijven. Met samenwerken is niks mis, zolang je maar baas in eigen huis blijft. Ik geloof niet dat klantenteams juist is voor de toekomst van de Formule 1."

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  • lars75

    Posts: 8.908

    Afhankelijke nieuwkomers lijken mij ook niet de oplossing :-)

    • + 1
    • 16 jun 2015 - 14:17
  • "Je kan geen levensvatbare organisatie met een solide business plan opzetten zolang..."

    1)mevrouw Kaltenborn de dagelijkse leiding heeft.
    2)je meer rijders dan stoeltjes hebt
    3)je geld boven talent zet.

    *doorhalen wat niet van toepassing is

    • + 4
    • 16 jun 2015 - 14:36
    • Ze heeft gewoon gelijk, ongeacht of je haar nu leuk vind of niet. Geen enkel van de opgestarte teams van 2010 heeft het gehaald, Manor is intussen al drie keer van eigenaar veranderd.

      • + 3
      • 16 jun 2015 - 15:59
    • Big_El

      Posts: 2.137

      Maar wat dacht je van de onafhankelijkheid van Sauber zelf?
      Die zijn al jaren het slaafje van Ferrari. Mooi voorbeeld is de 2e plek voor Perez in Maleisie indertijd: die mocht van de muur niet proberen voor de winst te gaan, omdat het een Ferrari was die ervoor reed. Hoezo team-orders?
      En waarom reed Bianchi bij Manor, Ricciardo bij HRT en Massa bij Sauber?

      Of te wel: zelfs bij dit interview heeft ze weer boter op haar hoofd.

      • + 0
      • 17 jun 2015 - 08:19
  • * Kijkt naar Haas

    Euhm..

    • + 1
    • 16 jun 2015 - 14:43
    • Kennie

      Posts: 2.659

      Haas is afhankelijk van Ferrari en Dallara...

      Ja, Haas heeft een groot internationaal bedrijf waar inkomsten vandaan komen die het F1 team kan uitgeven, maar als Haas zelf op zoek moet naar een motor, zelf het chassis bouwt (wat nu Dallara voor het grootste gedeelte doet) en ook zelf het chassis moet ontwikkelen (wat elk team moet) is dat wel een ander verhaal dan hoe ze het nu aanpakken.

      Bij de GP van Canada was er een gesprek met iemand van Haas en ik vermoed dat als Haas vrijwel meteen in het middenveld zit en hier en daar punten pakt er een flinke shitstorm van de andere teams aan zit te komen en dat ze gaan roepen dat het een halve Ferrari is.

      • + 1
      • 16 jun 2015 - 15:13
    • + Haas staat nog niet op de grid en je weet ook niet hoe lang ze blijven.

      • + 0
      • 16 jun 2015 - 15:59
    • lars75

      Posts: 8.908

      En Dallara en een F1 chassis is ook geen gelukkig huwelijk gebleken in de geschiedenis.

      • + 1
      • 16 jun 2015 - 20:37
    • Big_El

      Posts: 2.137

      Maar je hoeft niet zelf het chassis te bouwen, zolang een bedrijf als Dallara je partner is. Alleen mag Dallara dan geen chassis bouwen voor een ander F1 team.

      Dat het weinig succesvolle chassis' zijn van Dallara, dat hebben we inderdaad eerder gezien. Maar hopen op een uitzondering en dat het dus volgend jaar beter gaat. Zelfs de topteams hebben wel eens een chassis dat niet werkt. Alleen dan is het een off-year en zijn ze er een paar jaar later wel weer bij. Dallara heeft volgens mij nog nooit een succesvol chassis gehad, of dat moet dan overschaduwt zijn door de nog veel slechtere motor.

      • + 0
      • 17 jun 2015 - 08:22
  • Sauber is al jaren aan het overleven, net als eventuele toetreders. Dus deze mevrouw praat pure poep.

    Wie er ook aan begint en bestaande renstallen, er is iets fundamenteels fout aan de huidige formule 1. Het verhaal van een jongensdroom was weg gelegd voor mannen als Ferrari, Jordan, Minardi, Mallya, Williams, Prost, Hilmer, Van Amersfoort enz. enz. enz.

    Mensen die hun naam verbonden aan een team uit pure passie voor het racen.

    Maar omdat de rollen nu omgedraaid worden, zeker binnen de f1, komt men in de problemen met als goed voorbeeld Toyota, BMW, Honda (met Verstappen eind jaren 90) Renault (weet niet wat ze willen als jojo fabrikant).

    Dat is dus precies waar het fout gaat.

    • + 0
    • 16 jun 2015 - 17:02
    • Mee eens Erwinnaar, een veld met voldoende privateers zorgt voor een stabiele f1, zij bestaan puur voor het racen, zolangs het klimaat goed is om te overleven zullen zij er altijd zijn, terwijl fabrikanten komen en gaan, f1 is interessant zolang de raad van bestuur dat vind...
      echter is de f1 op de slechte weg waardoor toetreden van nieuwe privé teams onwaarschijnlijk is, op Haas na heb ik van geen enkele nadere nieuwkomer gehoord ondanks die tender vd FIA, die zien natuurlijk liever fabrikanten komen waaraan ze hun zakken kunnen vullen.

      • + 1
      • 17 jun 2015 - 10:25
  • En opnieuw etaleert mevrouw K. haar eigen onvermogen!

    Tamelijk onsmakelijk plaatje trouwens, als je net zit te eten.
    Nu hoef ik mijn kip niet meer...

    • + 0
    • 16 jun 2015 - 18:18
    • Kan je ook inhoudelijk reageren? ;-)

      Ik weet dat je haar niet mag door dat gezeur met GvdG maar ze heeft hier toch gewoon gelijk?

      • + 1
      • 16 jun 2015 - 22:01
  • Ja in dit geval heeft ze voor één keer wel gelijk

    • + 0
    • 16 jun 2015 - 22:43
  • Maxiplus

    Posts: 399

    ´...of een andere manier van externe financiering´

    Tatjana, ik wist echt niet dat hij zo rijk was, Simic heeft daar een beter kompas voor.

    • + 0
    • 17 jun 2015 - 09:48

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