Honda verlangt andersom ook meer van McLaren

  • Gepubliceerd op 17 jul 2015 09:58
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

McLaren mag dan de druk opvoeren op Honda om een motor met meer vermogen te leveren, maar in omgekeerde richting is er ook sprake van wat druk. De Japanse autofabrikant weigert alle schuld voor de huidige malaise op zich te nemen. Het chassis van de McLaren MP4-30 laat ook te wensen over.

Honda-motorsportbaas Yasuhisa Arai vertelde aan Motorsport.com: "Honda voelt altijd druk. Niet alleen van McLaren, maar ook van binnenuit. Dat is normaal. Wij pushen McLaren ook om de aerodynamica te verbeteren en de downforce te vergroten. We verliezen tijd bij het uitkomen van de bochten omdat de coureurs niet gelijk op het gas kunnen. Dat is ook een oorzaak dat onze topsnelheden lager zijn dan die van de topteams. We hebben meer tractie nodig."

"Als we aerodynamisch beter zijn, dan komt dat ook onze competitiviteit ten goede. Maar we boeken goede progressie, zowel op gebied van aero als met de motor. De relatie tussen ons en McLaren is nog innig. Race na race worden we beter en meer succesvol. Met de betrouwbaarheid van de aandrijflijn is het ook steeds beter gesteld, dus we kunnen ons alsmaar meer gaan richten op de performance."

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  • Ricciardo legde laatst al uit dat als je een motor hebt met minder vermogen dat je dan ook minder downforce op de auto kan zetten omdat je anders veel te laag uitkomt in de topsnelheid. Minder downforce maakt het ook lastiger om vol op het gas te gaan.

    • + 0
    • 17 jul 2015 - 10:09
  • Het voorzichtig gooien van modder na elkaar is al begonnen. Waar gaat dat eindigen?

    • + 1
    • 17 jul 2015 - 10:10
    • Ze blijven nog heel lief voor elkaar, vraag is hoe lang nog :)
      Ik zie nog koppen rollen daar in Japan...ze hebben daar scherpe zwaarden. Japanners hebben ook niet al teveel geduld...

      Benieuwd hoe de situatie evolueert...

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 10:24
    • Dit eindigt met vele overwinningen , wat hier nu gebeurt is de boel op scherp zetten.

      • + 1
      • 17 jul 2015 - 10:39
  • "Race na race worden we beter en meer succesvol. Met de betrouwbaarheid van de aandrijflijn is het ook steeds beter gesteld, dus we kunnen ons alsmaar meer gaan richten op de performance."

    Ik moet toch iets missen hoor, of bedoelen ze dat ene puntje van Alonso?
    De laatste dagen kopen er nogal veel berichten uit het kamp van Mclaren en Honda, allemaal opprbest en positief. Wat kunnen ze anders natuurlijk?

    Feit blijft dat ik niet geloof dat ze dit jaar nog fel zullen verbeteren. De andere teams maken ook progressie, misschien in mindere maten, maar er komen nog relatief veel circuits aan waar power van groot belang is.

    Het een verloren jaar noemen is misschien een verkeerde perceptie, ze leren er vast veel uit. Vooral dan hoe het niet moet. Ik kan me enkel niet van de indruk ontdoen dat Mclaren niet langer in een sukkelstraat is, maar eerder op een snelweg van geknoei...

    • + 0
    • 17 jul 2015 - 10:13
    • Ik begrijp wat je bedoeld, het merendeel van de races resulteert in een uitvalbeurt voor een of beide rijders door onbetrouwbaarheid van de bolide.

      Echter krijg ik wel het idee dat, zolang ze in de race rijden, ze steeds gemakkelijker mee kunnen met de achterkant van de middenmoot van het veld. Ook krijg ik het idee dat ze iedere race gemakkelijker en verder weg rijden van de beide Manors, die in performance toch zeker niet minder worden.

      Natuurlijk zijn dit bij lange na niet de prestaties waar Mclaren voor het begin van dit seizoen op gehoopt had en waarschijnlijk hadden weinig mensen zo'n rampzalige eerste helft van het seizoen verwacht.

      Ik denk echter toch dat Mclaren Honda, mits ze de betrouwbaarheid onder controle krijgen, flinke stappen kan maken omdat zij waarschijnlijk nog genoeg potentieel achter de hand hebben die ze nog niet kunnen toepassen vanwege die betrouwbaarheid. Het zal naar mijn verwachting nog wel een lange tijd gaan duren voordat dit inderdaad het geval is, dus daar geef ik je ook zeker gelijk in.

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 11:21
    • Ik hoop het echt voor de sport en de Mclaren fans Joost. De F1 heeft het nodig...

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 11:54
    • Shrek

      Posts: 554

      McLaren zit nu op het niveau van pakweg Minardi in diens betere jaren; en dat doen ze best aardig.

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 23:31
  • Stop met die engine freeze!!

    • + 1
    • 17 jul 2015 - 10:18
    • Tifoso

      Posts: 2.985

      Zolang je niet kan testen heb je ook niet veel aan het opheffen van de engine freeze. Ik heb het al vaker gezegd, de enige reden waarom sommige fabrikanten het minder goed voor elkaar hebben is dat ze het niet goed hebben kunnen testen. Bij het bevriezen van de V8's had men geen testrestricties en was de motor een jaar lang doorontwikkeld. Gevolg...alle motoren nagenoeg gelijk aan elkaar. Hier is voor gewaarschuwd, maar de FIA was te eigenwijs met hun onrealistische plannen. Je kan niet een nieuwe motorformule opzetten met moderne technieken en verwachten dat iedereen meteen concurrerend is met elkaar. De eerste jaar had je nooit de motor moeten bevriezen en in season testing toestaan.

      • + 2
      • 17 jul 2015 - 10:48
  • KidVicious

    Posts: 11

    Hier heeft Honda natuurlijk een punt. Volgens mij is dat 'hok' van McLaren ook een stuk slechter dan afgelopen jaar. Natuurlijk rijden ze net als de Renault teams met minder downforce, maar dat scheelt geen secondes. Onbegrijpelijk ook dat ze maar blijven roepen dat podiumplaatsen mogelijk moeten zijn.. Ja, waarschijnlijk zoals in 1996? toen Olivier Panis de Grand Prix van Monaco won.. Die kans is natuurlijk nihil. Ze moeten ook zichzelf eens aankijken en zich niet blindstaren op behaalde resultaten in het verleden! Het zou me niets verbazen als Alonso aan het einde van het jaar weer vertrekt. Zijn commentaar over de boordradio dat hij op zijn zachtst gezegd 'voor lul' reed, zegt genoeg. Daar heeft hij ongetwijfeld een reprimande voor gekregen, vanaf dat moment is hij ineens bijzonder positief. Maar van binnen baalt hij natuurlijk dat hij WEER de verkeerde keuze heeft gemaakt qua team. Jammer!

    • + 0
    • 17 jul 2015 - 11:25
    • De Ligier van 1996 (waar Panis toen in reed) was overigens helemaal geen slechte wagen. Gewoon een auto in de middenmoot/subtop en Panis zat er die race sowieso al heel lekker in en was op weg naar een top resultaat!

      Dat de auto's van Hill & Alesi stuk gingen hielp natuurlijk wel maar Panis had sowieso een goed resultaat gehaald.

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 11:46
    • KidVicious

      Posts: 11

      Dat de Ligier van 1996 een net zo slechte auto was als de huidige McLaren bedoelde ik er natuurlijk niet mee. Het feit dat er maar 3 auto's de finish haalde en dat er daardoor idd een podiumplaats in zou kunnen zitten voor McLaren uiteraard wel. De Ligier van 1996 was volgens mij zelfs een kopie van de Benetton, volgens mij het Flavio Briatore het team gekocht om de Renault motoren voor Benetton te kunnen krijgen, maar dat weet ik niet zeker meer.

      • + 0
      • 17 jul 2015 - 12:35
  • Net zoals dat situatie met Redbull & Renault. Renault mag dan niet de beste motor hebben, maar die bak van Redbull zelf valt ook tegen qua prestaties.

    • + 0
    • 17 jul 2015 - 12:44
  • floris

    Posts: 800

    ja ja.

    • + 0
    • 17 jul 2015 - 16:58
  • Misschien moet McLaren maar eens met de geldbuidel gaan rammelen om een goede ontwerper binnen te halen.

    • + 0
    • 18 jul 2015 - 10:28

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