Toro Rosso in de wachtkamer door getreuzel Renault

  • Gepubliceerd op 23 jul 2015 10:35
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Renault schuift de beslissing over de toekomst in de Formule 1 maar voor zich uit. Het Franse merk neemt alle tijd om te bepalen of het terug wil keren met een eigen fabrieksteam of niet. Dat heeft ook consequenties voor Scuderia Toro Rosso. De Italiaanse renstal weet niet waar het aan toe is wat betreft de levering van motoren. Het contract met Renault loopt eind 2016 af.

Toro Rosso wacht rustig de beslissing van de Franse autofabrikant af. Teambaas Franz Tost verkondigt tegenover Omnicorse: "Ik heb geen idee hoe Renault de toekomst in gaat vullen. Een maand of drie, vier geleden zijn ze langs geweest in Faenza en ook onze faciliteiten in Bicester hebben ze bezocht. Er zijn onderhandelingen gevoerd, maar ik heb nu het idee dat Renault geen interesse heeft in een overname van Toro Rosso."

De Oostenrijker hint voorzichtig naar een terugkeer naar Ferrari-aandrijving, al is het nog te vroeg om te speculeren. "We moeten nog een paar maanden geduld hebben. Eerst dienen we van Renault te horen te krijgen wat zij willen doen. Zodra zij de knoop doorgehakt hebben weten we ook of we met andere motorleveranciers in gesprek moeten. Met Ferrari hebben we bijvoorbeeld succesvol samengewerkt, maar er is op dit moment nog niets besloten."

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  • Hopelijk gaat Renault niet verloren voor de F-1. Zou ook niet goed zijn voor RBR en STR wanneer Renault besluit om er helemaal mee te stoppen. Dat ze Lotus kopen en als fabrieksteam verder gaan is voor bovengenoemde teams niet zo'n ramp. Dan stopt de motorontwikkeling tenminste niet. Hoewel ze eind 2016 dan ook geen spectaculaire updates meer mogen verwachten...

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    • 23 jul 2015 - 11:12
  • Zoals zij nu bezig zijn, hou ik mijn hart vast voor de toekomst. Het is allang niet meer de Renault zoals wij die kennen van vroeger.

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    • 23 jul 2015 - 11:20
  • Aero

    Posts: 189

    Nogmaals, Red Bull moet niet zo koppig zijn. Zij hadden Renault moeten helpen om alle problemen te verhelpen. Samen de krachten bundelen. Die fabriek in milton keynes is gigantisch en volgens de geruchten van een tijdje geleden ruimte zat voor een motoren afdeling. Dan hadden ze de ideale situatie gehad, motor en chassis onder een dak. Net als Ferrari en Mercedes. Iedereen blij. RBR zijn gewilde A-spec motor en Renault omdat ze dan weer kunnen winnen (en de oude fabriek in Viry niet meer hoeven te gebruiken). Want laten we eerlijk zijn, de technici van Red Bull kunnen het gemis in vermogen opvangen met een goed chassis. Ik ben er niet van overtuigd dat Lotus dat zelde kan. Niet zo goed als Red Bull tenminste.
    Ander dingetje, waarom kun je op de mobiele site niet reageren?

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    • 23 jul 2015 - 11:35
    • Red Bull heeft hun eigen mannen mee aan het werk gezet.

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      • 23 jul 2015 - 13:29
    • Aero

      Posts: 189

      Ja dat klopt Ilmor o.a. hebben ze daar heen gestuurd. Maar ik bedoeld eigenlijk dat Renault verhuist naar Milton Keynes om zo alles onder een dak te hebben.

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      • 23 jul 2015 - 21:09
    • Dat moet Renault natuurlijk ook zelf willen en ik twijfel er aan dat dat het geval is.

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      • 24 jul 2015 - 19:04
  • Renault is een auto en motorenfabrikant. Terwijl RBR zelf zijn racewagens ontwerpt en bouwt. Dit zijn twee totaal verschillende bedrijven. Je kunt moeilijk het ene bedrijf de schuld gaan geven vanwege het falen van het andere bedrijf. Als jij met keiharde afspraken komt over het leveren van motoren, die volgens jouw spec's voldoen aan de eisen die RBR stelt, en dit vervolgens in een contract giet met je klant (RBR), dan mag naar mijn inziens die zelfde klant eisen dat hij waar voor zijn geld krijgt. Dat vervolgens die zelfde motoren fabrikant zich gaat verdedigen dat het het chassis van de RB11 niet op orde is slaat kant nog wal. Zij leveren A. een motor die niet betrouwbaar is, B. een motor die lang niet zo competitief blijkt te zijn als dat zij hadden beloofd. en C. de oplossing wordt op de lange baan geschoven door Renault. Ik zou uit mijn vel springen als klant zijnde.

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    • 23 jul 2015 - 11:52
    • Dit artikel gaat over STR en haar relatie met Renault...niet RBR en hun chassis.

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      • 23 jul 2015 - 14:08
  • Tsja ze kunnen natuurlijk ook gaan voor Lotus. Dat is wellicht interessanter omdat ze dan een heel team overnemen en niet slechts een dependance/voorportaal van een hoofdteam.

    Bovendien zullen ze eerst willen zien dat hun motorafdeling de inhaalslag kan maken. Als ze het met de tokens van dit jaar niet redden om het gat naar Ferrari en Mercedes te dichten dan kunnen ze beter helemaal stoppen, want anders blijven ze altijd achter de feiten aan lopen.

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    • 23 jul 2015 - 12:23
    • AUDI_F1

      Posts: 2.497

      Dan zou STR misschien wel naar Mercedes kunnen gaan, die hebben dan 1 team minder.

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      • 23 jul 2015 - 15:37

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