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Symonds: "F1-motoren 25 procent luider in 2016"

  • Gepubliceerd op 15 jan 2016 15:43
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De Formule 1-motoren zullen dit jaar ongeveer 25 procent meer geluid produceren dan in 2015. Dat stelde Pat Symonds, technisch directeur van Williams, op de Autosport International Show. Over het volume van de V6 turbomotoren was de voorbije jaren een hoop te doen. Veel fans deden hun beklag waarna is ingegrepen middels een aparte uitlaat voor de wastegate.

Symonds legt uit: "Voorheen was het zo dat de wastegate de normale uitlaat instroomde en voor 2016 hebben we die twee gescheiden. De wastegate op een hedendaagse turbo gaat niet zo wijd open. We hebben een generator vastgemaakt aan de turbocharger, dat is een van de manieren waarop we energie hergebruiken. Daarmee is de snelheid van de compressor beter te controleren dan middels de wastegate."

"De wastegate is dan ook zelden open. In de races heel weinig en in de kwalificaties een beetje. Je zou denken dat het scheiden van die uitlaten daardoor weinig effect zou hebben, maar niets is minder waar. Met een gesloten wastegate neemt het volume met 14 procent toe, met een open wastegate wordt het geluid 20 tot 25 procent luider, dus het is vrij significant. Ik heb het nog niet op het circuit gehoord, maar ik denk dat we terug gaan naar het geluid van de oude turbomotoren."

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  • complicated

    Posts: 1.422

    Elk percentage meer is een vooruitgang.

    • + 1
    • 15 jan 2016 - 15:57
    • Edward M

      Posts: 1.054

      Inderdaad ze zijn nu ook aan het praten over bij tanken tijdens de wedstrijd , nog meer spektakel en snelerre ronde tijden

      • + 1
      • 15 jan 2016 - 19:27
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      weer aan het praten over bijtanken??
      ik dacht dat dit onlangs definitief van tafel was geveegd?

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 11:40
  • NicoS

    Posts: 16.770

    Ik denk dat het geluid op het niveau van de Indycar komt te liggen, prima wat mij betreft.

    • + 0
    • 15 jan 2016 - 16:00
  • Sjaakafhaak

    Posts: 666

    25% van weinig is nog steeds niet veel

    • + 1
    • 15 jan 2016 - 16:33
    • gijsvansorgen

      Posts: 79

      6dBA erbij is 2x zo hard. Voor onze waarneming heb je ongeveer 10dBA nodig om een verdubbeling als zodanig te "voelen".
      Dus bij bijv. 96dBA (gezellig concertje) niet overdreven hard + 25%= 120dBA. Dat is best AAN zeg maar.

      Maar de clou zit hem hier in: 25% t.o.v. wat? Zoals hierboven kan het leuk uitpakken maar als dB waarde gezien is het nihil. Je komt op ong. 2dBA (1,9).

      Dus het is eigenlijk een antwoord waar we in deze context niets aan hebben...
      Typisch F1 LOL

      • + 1
      • 15 jan 2016 - 16:43
    • Tomask250282

      Posts: 722

      Gijsvansorgen....

      Lang leve de Texas Instruments! Heb het even nagekeken en je berekening klopt.
      Kan er in je verslag vanuit gaan dat je vroeger een lekkere lerares hebt gehad op de middelbare.

      • + 2
      • 15 jan 2016 - 17:42
    • gijsvansorgen

      Posts: 79

      Blij dat het klopt Thomask250282. Ben geluidstechnicus.....

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 13:25
    • Tomask250282

      Posts: 722

      @ Gijsvansorgen?

      Wat zeg je ?

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 13:58
    • gp

      Posts: 4.711

      Gijs? Ben jij ook F1 Fan? Ik ben die Belgische Bassist op het cons!(Peter)

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 15:43
  • beertje

    Posts: 466

    Het toerental moet omhoog, dat geeft de goeie sound.

    • + 2
    • 15 jan 2016 - 16:46
    • MacGyver

      Posts: 3.550

      Belangrijkste demper en domper wat betreft het geluid is de stupide maximale fuelflow van 100kg/uur.

      Motoren krijgen bij 11.500 toeren al niet meer genoeg peut binnen en wordt er geschakeld naar een volgende versnelling, reglementair mogen ze maximaal 15.000 draaien.

      Meer brandstof is meer toeren en ook meer herrie.
      3,5 duizend toeren valt er nog te winnen.
      Alleen Mercedes tikt in lagere versnellingen nog wel eens de 12duizend aan.

      Verplicht V6 is verplichte eenheidsworst.

      1995, het laatste jaar van v12's, v8'ten en v10's door elkaar op een circuit, geen begrenzers

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 14:34
  • perestijn

    Posts: 1.663

    Nu hoef ik de tv niet meer zo hard te zetten.....lol ..ik denk dat het voor de gemiddelde tv kijker weinig uitmaakt.

    • + 0
    • 15 jan 2016 - 20:15
    • Distortion

      Posts: 1.508

      Nee het is vooral leuk als je op het Circuit bent. Ik heb de moderne turboauto's nog nooit gehoord. Maar die oudere motoren, en dan met name van voor de begrenzing op 18000 RPM, maakten echt een machtig geluid. Het zou echt mooi zijn als we toch weer een beetje meer die kant op zouden gaan.

      • + 0
      • 15 jan 2016 - 20:52
    • laagvliegerT

      Posts: 1.672

      Zolang ik op tv hoor dat de bandjes slippen bij het wegrijden uit de pits, denk ik altijd: 'wtf. Dat kan ik ook met mijn 16 jaar oude wagen.' En is er iets grondig mis met de F1.
      Scheurend metaal moet het zijn.

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 11:16
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      vanachter de tv maakt het me niet veel uit nee. voor live bezoek is het onderdeel van de totale beleving, voor veel mensen (waaronder ik) althans.
      Ik heb de 'nieuwe' motoren in het echt nog niet gehoord, maar als ik de bandengeluiden vanachter tv opeens kan horen dan weet ik wel genoeg...
      Laatste keer dat ik op Spa geweest ben was tijdens die algehele testsessie waarbij alle teams aanwezig waren (Giedo testte voor Spijker toen dacht ik) ik meende 2007.
      De eerste keer dat ik weer f1 geluiden hoorde sinds de v10s verdwenen waren, dat was al een enorme teleurstelling

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 11:39
    • hansf1

      Posts: 123

      Idd. Jean, voor de tv maakt het niets uit. Ik kan je vertellen dat het geluid van de motoren de laatste 2 jaren echt geen geluid maakten. Ook de gelimiteerde V8 was al een teleurstelling. Geef mij maar het geluid van een jankende V12 of de V10 met 20000 toeren.

      • + 0
      • 16 jan 2016 - 13:13
  • louc_

    Posts: 2.303

    Ik kom nog uit het tijdperk van V12 naar V10 over V8 de haren stonden je rechtop!

    • + 0
    • 16 jan 2016 - 16:45
  • Benno329

    Posts: 2.786

    "Over het volume van de V16 turbomotoren was de voorbije jaren een hoop te doen". Hoezo dan? Dat was toch gewoon 1600 CC?

    • + 0
    • 16 jan 2016 - 20:25

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