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Grosjean niet blij: "Voorvleugel breekt spontaan af"

  • Gepubliceerd op 15 jun 2016 11:54
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  • Door: Danny Sosef

Romain Grosjean heeft aangedrongen bij zijn team Haas om dringend de foute constructie van de vleugels te herstellen. Als sinds de wintertesten wordt het Amerikaanse team geplaagd door problemen met de voorvleugel.

De voorvleugel is dit jaar al enkele keren onverwachts afgebroken en levert gevaarlijke situaties op. De laatste keer was afgelopen weekend in Montreal. De Fransman vertelde aan Canal Plus: "Dit is de derde keer dat ik tijdens een race mijn voorvleugel verloor. Ik denk dat ik te snel ga voor deze auto!"

"We moeten een verklaring zien te vinden. We zitten ook niet ver van de puntenposities vandaan. Ik doe het maximale wat ik kan, ik rij echt op de limiet van de wagen en plots breekt de voorvleugel weer af. We moeten echt zorgen dat deze problemen opgelost worden en we dit achter ons kunnen laten."

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  • hondamp4/4

    Posts: 1.542

    De vleugels van Haas zwabberen altijd heen en weer. Lijkt mij toch niet het meest ingewikkelde deel van de auto.

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 11:54
    • Rudolf53

      Posts: 311

      niet het meest ingewikkelde deel? Als ik het zo zie zijn het kunstwerkjes daar vooraan de auto vollledig gedicteerd door de windtunel testen en verantwoordelijk voor een boel downforce. En dat levert veel kracht op de bevestiging

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 12:21
    • Jas Verstoppen

      Posts: 685

      Was/is mij ook opgevallen. Met name de achtervleugel wiebelt soms flink.

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 12:45
    • hondamp4/4

      Posts: 1.542

      Op het gebied van Aerodynamica zijn zijn het natuurlijk wel wonderbaarlijke stukjes techniek. Qua montage op de auto zou het toch niet zo heel ingewikkeld moeten zijn. Kracht op de bevestiging is groot maar dit is gewoon een gegeven waar je rekening mee moet houden met de bevestiging, geen rocketscience.

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 12:50
    • Shrek

      Posts: 554

      Actueel thema: teveel beweging van de vleugel onder het rijden ..? ... (Ferrari input...)

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 18:23
  • Maximaal Verslapen

    Posts: 312

    Na 1 of 2 keer zou je toch verachten dat ze wakker zouden worden en de voorvleugel toch eens onder de loep zouden nemen en verbeteren.

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 11:59
    • Ben Dover

      Posts: 2.105

      Tja, en daar komt dan ineens om de hoek dat ze zelf niet voldoende kennis in huis hebben. Als ze dit snel willen oplossen, moeten ze dus ook weer kennis inhuren of inkopen. Dat is het zwakke punt van hun aanpak.

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 12:26
    • maxioos

      Posts: 1.824

      Ik zou zelfs van de FIA actie verwachten. Je zou toch verwachten dat in de regelgeving is meegenomen dat onderdelen niet zomaar mogen afbreken. Blijkbaar komt de wagen wel telkens door de test, maar als er dan toch telkens iets afbreekt zou je zeggen dat de test niet goed genoeg is.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 13:27
    • Shrek

      Posts: 554

      Vroeger brak van de auto's van Adrian Newey ook nog wel eens wat af. Alles wordt zo geconstrueerd dat het minimaal voldoende sterk is ivm gewicht ed.

      Het is niet moeilijk om onderdelen razend sterk te maken maar de noodzaak is het zo licht mogelijk te houden.
      Wellicht zit er Ferrari knowledge in de voorvleugel, maar is de uitwerking een tikkie anders.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 18:27
    • Benno329

      Posts: 2.786

      Maxioos; precies wat ik ook dacht. En zo'n vleugel zal toch ook wel een of andere FIA-test moeten doorstaan? Hier kunnen serieuze ongelukken mee gebeuren.

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 19:16
  • Tha Real Cuber

    Posts: 234

    Hij klaagde achter een van de STR's dat hij dacht dat zijn voorvleugel weg was (weer complete paniek bij Grosjean) maar op de beelden zag je de vleugel er toch echt nog aan zitten. zonder zichtbare schade? Of heb ik een moment gemist datie echt afbrak.

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 12:03
    • Motori-arte

      Posts: 1.358

      Heb het ook nog bekeken, kon ook niets zien.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 12:19
    • MustFeed

      Posts: 8.839

      Sterker nog, toen ze Grosjean vroegen wat er dan met zijn vleugel aan de hand was zei hij dat hij het niet onderzocht had.

      Heel vreemd antwoord...

      Geen duidelijk zichtbare schade, maar van het een op andere moment zou de voorvleugel helemaal niks meer doen?

      Heb zelf het idee dat Grosjean zich gewoon een paar keer verremde en toen op vierkante banden geen grip meer had. Zag in de herhaling ook dat Grosjean 3 bochten achter elkaar heel erg blokkeerde en zelfs van de baan raakte.

      Hoor eigenlijk nu vrijwel iedere race Grosjean wel iets roepen van dat het team "iets moet doen" en dat de auto "undrivable" is. Ondertussen laat Gutierrez zien dat het allemaal toch nog wel net iets sneller kan.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 14:27
    • Kenju

      Posts: 2.629

      Er was wel degelijk zichtbare schade. Olav Mol merkte dat ook op.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 15:28
    • Shrek

      Posts: 554

      Vanuit de rijders positie is de voorvleugel niet zichtbaar.

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      • 15 jun 2016 - 18:28
    • baziz

      Posts: 500

      Kon het zelf inderdaad op de herhaling in slow-motion niet zien, het zag er op die beelden goed uit. Maar (de bevestiging) een vleugel die aan 1 kant is gebroken kan nog aardig op zijn plek blijven zitten.

      • + 0
      • 16 jun 2016 - 11:41
  • Madmax33

    Posts: 1.445

    Gooi er gewoon een voorvleugel op van een ander team die er wel op blijft zitten :)
    zien we bijvoorbeeld grosjean rijden met een Toro Rosso front wing ;)

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    • 15 jun 2016 - 12:14
  • hondamp4/4

    Posts: 1.542

    Achtervleugel lijkt inderdaad voornamelijk flink te bewegen.

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 12:51
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Ik denk ook dat Romain te snel gaat voor de auto.
    We hebben in het verleden al erg vaak gezien dat Romain te snel gaat voor de auto of voor het circuit. Er moest in zijn Lotus periode zelfs maanden lang psychologische hulp komen omdat hij zoveel sneller ging dan dat de auto of circuit aankon.
    Nadat ze de software van de Lotus hadden gerustgesteld en de psycholoog uitgebreid met de engineers en auto gepraat had begon het vertrouwen te komen dat Romain dingen kon die niemand anders kon. Vanaf dat moment liep het beter. Totdat bij Haas het hele spel opnieuw begon.
    Inmiddels zijn ook daar auto en monteurs begonnen met groepssessies. De auto gelooft het nog niet echt maar het merendeel van de monteurs is inmiddels om! Kwestie van tijd voordat de vleugels het aandurven te blijven zitten en niet meer in paniek uitstappen bij de zoveelste dodenrit van Romain!!

    • + 3
    • 15 jun 2016 - 12:51
    • f1 benelux

      Posts: 3.957

      De groepsessies worden trouwens geleid door Pastor Maldonado!! Na z'n dreiging om zelf weer plaats te nemen, ging de bolide volledig overstag. Het begin is gemaakt. Overleg met Ecclestone om de circuits sneller te maken is ook bezig! In de plaas van DRS zones komen nu geluidsmuren te staan. Helemaal Grosjean z'n ding.. Voorlopig rijden de wagens van Haas nog met een aanhangwagentje om de achterblijvende onderdelen in te verzamelen. Je kan natuurlijk niet verwachten dat die hele bolide ineens mee is ;)

      • + 0
      • 15 jun 2016 - 22:53
  • wrangler266

    Posts: 153

    @Rimmer: WhoeHaHaHa!

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 12:56
  • bschuit

    Posts: 11.990

    Breken minder snel als ze wat bewegen.. (uiteraard binnen de grenzen van wat wenselijk is) Lijkt eerder op een structureel probleem, verkeerd gebouwd cq gebakken...

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 13:00
    • schwantz34

      Posts: 36.095

      Als dat in Baku ook weer gebeurt met 350 kmh, poeh linke soep.

      • + 0
      • 16 jun 2016 - 00:08
  • f1 benelux

    Posts: 3.957

    Ze moeten af en toe die Haas wel eens ontvlooien!!

    • + 0
    • 15 jun 2016 - 22:56

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