Pirelli uit zorgen over de bandentests voor 2017

  • Gepubliceerd op 28 sep 2016 12:13
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Bandenleverancier Pirelli heeft aan de bel getrokken naar aanleiding van de tests met de banden voor 2017. De data die de Italiaanse bandenfabrikant met de omgebouwde 2015-auto's van Red Bull Racing, Mercedes en Ferrari verzameld heeft, komt niet overeen met de data uit de simulaties. Pirelli is bang dat de interim-bolides minder downforce genereren dan de wagens volgend jaar zullen doen.

Mario Isola van Pirelli liet aan Autosport weten: "Het is lastig om te specificeren om hoeveel downforce het gaat. Het hangt ervan af of je uitgaat van begin 2017 of eind 2017, maar het is wel ongeveer twintig procent aan neerwaartse druk die we missen. Gedurende het komende seizoen zullen de teams de auto's in rap tempo ontwikkelen en dat betekent dat we vrij ver van onze doelstellingen verwijderd zijn."

"Het probleem met te weinig downforce is dat we de banden niet onderwerpen aan de krachten waar ze volgend jaar mee te maken krijgen. Daardoor krijgen we geen goed beeld van de werkelijke kwaliteit van de banden. We evalueren de slijtage, maar hoe kunnen we dat accuraat doen als een betere performance inhoudt dat de slijtage waarschijnlijk heviger is dan we op dit moment zien? Daarom werken we met de teams aan wagens die meer downforce produceren."

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  • themack

    Posts: 558

    Dan zet je voor de gein wat oudere f1 wagens in met meer downforce, kijken hoe de banden zich dan houden.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 12:16
    • Wat hadden ze dan gedacht? Dat Mercedes, Ferrari en RBR even aan elkaar liet zien hoever ze staan in de ontwikkeling van het downforce pakket? Een beetje naïeve gedachtegang van Pirelli

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 14:13
    • themack

      Posts: 558

      Blijkbaar wel, laten ze wat oude jordans of ferrari's of mclarens uit de jaren 2000-2007 inzetten en kijken wat of ze dat wel de benodigde downforce oplevert.

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 14:27
    • @THEMACK: Fijn dat jij precies weet dat de auto's tussen 2000 en 2007 net zoveel downforce hebben als de auto's volgend jaar... waar bazeer je dat op?

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 15:26
  • Pirelli reageert altijd onzeker en angstig. Bang voor imagoschade.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 12:18
    • yorkstar

      Posts: 332

      Ja maar ook niet heel onbegrijpelijk in deze situatie. Zij willen graag meer testen, maar het gaat waarschijnlijk niet gebeuren. Als er volgend seizoen de één na de ander de vangrail in zou knallen door klappende banden, hoeven ze er Pirelli niet van te beschuldigen. Zij hebben de mogelijkheid dan niet gekregen om ze uitvoerig te kunnen testen.

      • + 1
      • 28 sep 2016 - 12:24
    • Terecht dat ze hun zorgen uiten, want als de banden bij de eerste race volgend jaar niet voldoen dan wordt Pirelli er volledig op aan gekeken.

      Dat terwijl ze een onmogelijk opgave hebben. Banden ontwikkelen zonder testen met relevante auto's, verschillende compounds en omstandigheden op circuits die ook niet altijd even representatief zijn.

      Als Pirelli volgend jaar weer net zulke goede banden weet te produceren als dit jaar dan doen ze het gewoon bijzonder goed.

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 12:30
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @YORKSTAR en @RICHARDT

      Ben het wel met Orangearrows eens, wanneer is het nu eindelijk genoeg voor Pirelli.
      Er zijn nu 3 teams die (voor eigen kosten) een auto hebben omgebouwd, er zijn testdata ingepland en er is/wordt getest.

      Daarna kwamen weer aanvullende eisen van Pirelli: er moest in Verwegistan getest worden, de testcoureurs voldeden niet, er moest nog meer getest worden....

      Pirelli is een bandenleverancier met een zeer lange historie en daar mag je ook een hele hoop kennis verwachten.

      Bovendien schijnt men bij Pirelli even te vergeten dat al dat testwerk wel betaald moet worden door de drie teams. Dus een testcoureur, pitcrew, ombouw auto, transportkosten, reis- en verblijfskosten...

      Pirelli lijkt rupsje-nooit-genoeg wel...

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 12:58
  • Goed nieuws voor de teams die nu de 2017 banden niet testen. Ondanks dat het testen blindelings en onder regie Pirelli gebeurt, hebben de rijders niets aan het gevoel omdat deze omgebouwde bolides te weinig DF hebben.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 12:47
  • Dan ga je toch gewoon uit van de simulator data? Waar is die simulator anders goed voor?

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 13:28
  • Koop dan zelf een F1 bolide en schroef er dikkere vleugels op .... evt dikke v10 er in.
    Vroeger hadden we toch ook heel veel downforce?
    En pas daarna je simulator aan de realiteit aan.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 13:44
    • Dikke vleugels oke maar dikke V10???? Dikke V10 bestaat niet... een atmosferische V10 is vele malen zwakker en heeft amper koppel in vergelijking met de huidige V6. Dat haalt ook het verhaal van @themack onderuit want de auto's van 2000 -> 2007 hadden veel minder koppel waardoor ze veel minder belast werden....

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2016 - 15:29
  • Leuk toch alle teams vanaf eerste test tasten.in het duister. Dat pirrelli zich zorgen maakt over de betrouwbaarheid begrijp ik enigzins wel.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2016 - 16:02

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