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'Alonso was Massa's grote probleem bij Ferrari'

  • Gepubliceerd op 25 nov 2016 07:23
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Niet het ongeluk in de kwalificatie voor de Grand Prix van Hongarije in 2009, maar de komst van Fernando Alonso naar Ferrari heeft het verval van Felipe Massa bij de Scuderia ingeluid. Dat stelt Williams-engineer Rob Smedley, destijds samen met Massa werkzaam voor Ferrari.

Hij verkondigde aan UOL: "Onzin dat Felipe nooit helemaal is hersteld van de verwondingen die hij in Boedapest opliep. Het team dat hij in 2009 achterliet was goed gebalanceerd tussen Kimi Raikkonen en hem. Het team waar hij in 2010 bij terugkeerde, was volledig gefocust op Alonso. Alles draaide om Fernando. Dat was het grote probleem van Massa, het had niets met hem te maken."

Massa zelf nam een iets diplomatieker standpunt in. "Of het met het ongeluk te maken had of met de auto of het team, dat is onmogelijk om te beantwoorden. Feit is dat ik me ook na het ongeval goed voelde, hetzelfde als voorheen. Ik ben altijd het maximale blijven geven en heb ook na het ongeluk mooie dingen laten zien, alleen bleven meer overwinningen uit."

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  • Jean Alesi

    Posts: 17.675

    ik geloof Smedley achter mekaar, vanaf het punt dat Alonso naar Ferrari kwam zagen we een 'andere' Massa ontstaan, overduidelijk een 1e / 2e rijder beleid voerde ze daar toen

    • + 0
    • 25 nov 2016 - 07:43
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      Ik denk dat de manier hoe Ferrari al die jaren met 1ste en 2de rijders werkten, ze behalve bij Schumacher benadeelde. Misschien dat de frustratie van Vettel daar wel uit voortkomt en het team nu geen echte 1ste meer aanwijst, wie weet? Maar bij Alonso/Massa was dat inderdaad duidelijk te merken.

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 08:20
    • rickf1

      Posts: 1.623

      Ross Brawn legt in het boek Total Competition uit waarom Schumacher meer teamkeuzes in zijn voordeel kreeg. Brawn is van mening dat het oneerlijk is als een duidelijk snellere rijder een 50-50 behandeling krijgt met z'n teamgenoot.

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 12:23
  • bschuit

    Posts: 11.990

    Is toch altijd bij Ferrari geweest, een tweede rijder... systeem val nu een beetje in duigen doordat Vettel matig presteert, iedergeval veel minder dan verwacht, want Vettel werd toch een beetje als Schumacher 2.0 binnengehaald.. En Kimi was duidelijk een coureur die aan zn laatste kunstje bezig was... Zo zie je maar.... Massa is bijna een geboren nr 2 zelfde uitstraling als Barichello, ook zo,n typische Ferrari nr 2

    • + 4
    • 25 nov 2016 - 08:21
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      Yep, zelfde uitstraling, sympathieke gast, te aardig, beetje Barrichello 2.0.
      Alhoewel, dichter bij de titel geweest dan Barrichello ooit geweest is.
      Tot nu toe houdt Felipe zich netjes aan de Ferrari zwijgplicht maar ik zie hem in de verre toekomst net als Barrichello nog wel eens een boekje opendoen over hoe het er bij Ferrari aan toe ging.
      Massa was wel van een ietwat minder kaliber dan Alonso (inschatting), maar ik ben ervan overtuigd dat het verschil niet zo vreselijk groot was als de werkelijke resultaten deden vermoeden, daarvoor speelde er volgens mij teveel achter de schermen.

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 08:36
    • Warlord

      Posts: 2.153

      Massa is meer een Raikkonen dan een Barrichello in mijn optiek. Ik bedoel daarmee een Nr. 1 en Nr. 2 in dezelde persoon. Zij beide zijn goed genoeg om voor het kampioenschap te gaan en niet te min om hun teamgenoot te ondersteunen wanneer dat van ze gevraagd word. Barri is echt een pure Nr. 2.

      Het verschil tussen Massa/Raikkonen en Alonso zijn vooral de politieke spelletjes en om elke race weer competitief te zijn ongeacht wat voor barrel de Scuderia het betreffende seizoen weer gefabriceerd heeft. Ook heeft Alonso in races net dat beetje extra slimmigheid.

      • + 1
      • 25 nov 2016 - 09:07
  • Starscreamer

    Posts: 1.094

    De pitstop die knakte Massa dat Alonso voor kroop en zijn team zij er niks van.

    • + 0
    • 25 nov 2016 - 08:43
    • stekkie

      Posts: 13

      En nu in het Nederlands?

      • + 2
      • 25 nov 2016 - 08:57
    • Warlord

      Posts: 2.153

      De pitstop in China (2010) knakte Massa mentaal toen Alonso voor kroop bij de pit entry en zijn team heeft er met geen woord over gesproken.

      • + 1
      • 25 nov 2016 - 09:09
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      tja, dat is dan nét dat scherpe kantje wat een Massa mist, proberen al pratend op te lossen terwijl hij beter een mental note maakte en eerstvolgende gelegenheid Alonso een streek leveren, met gelijke munt terug betalen...
      Helaas, misschien denkt Felipe nog wel eens aan dat moment...

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 09:18
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      Nu in het Nederlands is gewoon NU,
      zo moeilijk is dat toch niet.

      Ik zal ook de betekenis er nog even bijzetten voor het geval dat je dat bedoelde:

      I nu bijwoord

      1) op dit moment
      Voorbeeld:  
      `Ik doe het wel, maar niet nu.`


      2) in onze tijd
      Voorbeeld:  
      `Dat mensen ongetrouwd samenwonen is nu heel gewoon.`

      Synoniemen:  
      heden, tegenwoordig

      3)
      zo nu en dan 
      (niet vaak) Synoniem: soms, af en toe


      II nu conjunction

      in de huidige situatie dat
      Voorbeeld:  
      `Nu de batterij leeg is, doet hij het niet meer.`

      • + 1
      • 25 nov 2016 - 09:39
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      @CTRA: Iets teveel van de bijdehandjes gesnoept vanochtend? ;-)

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 10:25
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      Teveel vrije tijd.

      Dan word ik altijd een beetje bijdehand inderdaad.
      Vooral als mensen commentaar hebben op andere, terwijl met een beetje inzet het best te begrijpen is.

      Ik vond het ook een zeer sterke 4e post van deze

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 10:31
    • donshere

      Posts: 1.315

      Morregen, dak'et morregen zal doen! www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALf2EA7neKM

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 19:16
  • Maximo

    Posts: 8.733

    Jaha..... dat gaat nog interessant worden bij McLaren volgend jaar. Alonso doet u wel aardig tegen Stoffel, maar dat is volgens mij een "valse vriendschappelijkheid".

    Als de nieuwe wagen van McLaren met een verbeterde Honda motor zo goed is als men daar nu roept zal Alonso alle psychologische en politieke foefjes uithalen die hij maar kent om de 1e coureur te worden en Stoffel de 2e.

    • + 0
    • 25 nov 2016 - 09:45
  • G-speed

    Posts: 174

    Het zelfde gebeurde weer met de komst van Vettel, de duidelijke 1e coureur, en Kimi als 2e coureur. Maar nu het minder gaat met Vettel word er meer aandacht gegeven aan de 2e rijder, en zie de 2e rijder doet het ineens beter dan de 1e.

    • + 1
    • 25 nov 2016 - 09:48
    • DutchF1

      Posts: 12.432

      En daarvoor met Schumacher.....en daar zijn de beelden nog het meest duidelijk van.

      • + 0
      • 25 nov 2016 - 12:12
  • reesfan

    Posts: 143

    Geen nieuws. Dit wist iedereen al.

    • + 0
    • 25 nov 2016 - 10:48
  • AlonsoSF

    Posts: 1.832

    Massa kan best behoorlijk rijden als het moet. Het probleem was dat Fernando gewoon een paar klassen beter is waardoor Massa een amateur lijkt.

    Is helemaal geen schande.

    • + 0
    • 25 nov 2016 - 20:13

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