Ericsson oordeelt nog niet over de 'oude' Ferrari-motor

  • Gepubliceerd op 07 maa 2017 14:25
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  • Door: Rik Klein Entink

Marcus Ericsson vindt het te vroeg om te oordelen over de keuze van het team van Sauber om dit jaar de 2016 motor van Ferrari te (blijven) gebruiken. Het scheelt aanzienlijk in de kosten maar zou het team op achterstand kunnen zetten. 

"Het is onmogelijk om daar nu over te oordelen", aldus Ericsson. "Wij weten wat we hebben en dat we het daarmee moeten gaan doen dit jaar. Het is zaak om het maximale eruit te halen en of het goed genoeg is vergeleken met de concurrentie.... dat staat in de sterren geschreven", aldus de coureur die aan zijn derde jaar bij Sauber begint. 

De algemene aanname is dat door de toegenomen downforce er juist meer power nodig is het komende jaar en dat zou een achterstand kunnen betekenen voor Sauber. Ericsson maakt zich daar wel wat zorgen over: "Natuurlijk is dat een punt van zorg, ik zou liegen als ik zei dat het niet zo was. Als iedereen zich enorm verbetert met nieuwe motoren dan gaat dat een groot probleem voor ons worden." Maar om positief af te sluiten: "Maar naar wat ik heb begrepen is dat niet het geval."

Zojuist is Marcus Ericsson voor het eerst in de tweede testweek in de Sauber C36 gestapt. Volg het allemaal in de live-updates van F1Today.net.

 

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  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Mercedes komt met de sterkste motor tot nu toe.
    Ferrari heeft flinke stappen gezet en werkt aan een motorupdate met revolutionaire techniek terwijl Renault met hun nieuwe concept ook al flink verbetert zijn maar wat zegt Marcus over de verbeteringen bij de rest?
    "Naar wat ik heb begrepen is dat niet het geval"
    Hahaha kom op man, wat een clown.
    Sauber staat nu al 2-0 achter en kan elke gp beter vanuit de pitstraat starten. Scheelt weer een opwarmrondje brandstof meenemen.

    • + 1
    • 7 maa 2017 - 14:58
    • Kan alleen maar hopen dat de verhalen kloppen dat Sauber dit als een tussenjaar beschouwt en dat de financiën inmiddels dusdanig zijn toegenomen dat Sauber vanaf 2018 weer tot een volwaardig F1-team kan worden gerekend. Dat is het meest positieve realisme dat bekend is en tot die tijd is het een kwestie van damage control.
      Het pr-praatje van mevrouw Kaltenborn (endebKan alleen maar hopen dat de verhalen kloppen dat Sauber dit als een tussenjaar beschouwd en dat de financiën inmiddels dusdanig zijn toegenomen dat Sauber vanaf 2018 weer als een volwaardig F1-team kan worden beschouwd. Dat is het meest positieve realisme dat bekend is en tot die tijd is het een kwestie van damage control.
      Het pr-praatje van me vrouw Kaltenborn een tijdje terug dat Sauber dit jaar in de middenmoot wil eindigen is natuurlijk niet meer dan het is, een pr-praatje.
      bKan alleen maar hopen dat de verhalen kloppen dat Sauber dit als een tussenjaar beschouwd en dat de financiën inmiddels dusdanig zijn toegenomen dat Sauber vanaf 2018 weer als een volwaardig F1-team kan worden beschouwd. Dat is het meest positieve realisme dat bekend is en tot die tijd is het een kwestie van damage control.
      Het pr-praatje van mevrouw Kaltenborn een tijdje terug – en de blabla van Ericsson hier – dat Sauber dit jaar in de middenmoot wil eindigen is natuurlijk niet meer dan wat het is, een pr-praatje.

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 18:56
    • Excuus voor de, echo, echo, echo.

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 19:05
    • Dit had het moeten zijn...

      Kan alleen maar hopen dat de verhalen kloppen dat Sauber dit als een tussenjaar beschouwd en dat de financiën inmiddels dusdanig zijn toegenomen dat Sauber vanaf 2018 weer als een volwaardig F1-team kan worden beschouwd. Dat is het meest positieve realisme dat bekend is en tot die tijd is het een kwestie van damage control.
      Het pr-praatje van mevrouw Kaltenborn – en de blabla van Ericsson hier – een tijdje terug dat Sauber dit jaar in de middenmoot wil eindigen is natuurlijk niet meer dan het is, een pr-praatje.

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 19:16
  • Veldhuis

    Posts: 606

    Dat zal ik dan wel doen. Testen heeft geen zin. Data is al een jaar bekend. En Fyra-rie werd in 2016 nr3. Dus weer een jaar verspild.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 14:58
    • Blijft gieren dat Fyra-rie grapje...

      • + 4
      • 7 maa 2017 - 15:30
  • rickf1

    Posts: 1.623

    Motoren zijn niet fors verbeterd: Slaap zacht Ericsson.

    • + 1
    • 7 maa 2017 - 14:59
  • Kraai

    Posts: 682

    Ach, hij zit nog in de ontkenningsfase.....

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 15:09
  • John6

    Posts: 8.170

    Hij zei het al, kost weinig, vandaag je ook achteraan zal starten en eindigen.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 15:10
  • ..........maar ze hebben wel een leuke livery

    • + 1
    • 7 maa 2017 - 15:16
  • d@nny

    Posts: 3.226

    Het zal mij echt verbazen als Sauber dit seizoen verder naar voren start als de laatste startrij (pech/penalties van andere coureurs uitgezonderd)

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 15:18
  • Wat een hoop geklaag.

    Toen torro rosso vorig jaar hetzelfde trucje deed. werd er nog geroepen dat TR in het begin van het seizoen mee zou kunnen doen om de podium plaatsen.

    Nu snap ik ook wel dat de situatie bij Sauber anders is dan bij TR een jaar geleden. Echter. heeft de Ferrari spec 2016 zich al bewezen als betrouwbaar. Als je kijkt naar HONDA en begin vorige week naar renault die problemen hadden/hebben met de motor. dan is het nog maar de vraag waar sauber staat in australie.

    betrouwbaarheid kan zomaar gaan meespelen in de eerste paar gp en dan is het aan sauber daarvan te profiteren. Uiteindelijk zal het verschil steeds groter worden. Dit zag je al bij TR afgelopen jaar. eerste paar GP's konden zij leuk meedoen en stonden zelfs voor RB. maar later het seizoen was dat ook voorbij.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 15:31
    • AndreasF1

      Posts: 816

      Ferrari 2016 spec betrouwbaar? Soms vergeten hoe vaak Kimi en Vettel straffen hadden na een kwalificatie?

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 16:22
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Zoals je zelf al zegt, twee verschillende situaties, totaal verschillende situaties zelfs.

      1. TR heeft bewezen een goede wagen te kunnen bouwen. Sauber was afgelopen jaar met dezelfde motor niet vooruit te branden. Sauber heeft de mogenlijkheden niet om uit het niets een top 2017 auto neer te zetten.

      2. Vorig jaar had je het token systeem met de motoren waardoor de motoren mbt ontwikkeling redelijk aan banden gelegd was. Nu het token systeem is verdwenen kunnen de motor fabrikanten in de winter veel meer doorontwikkelen. Sauber zal hierdoor op motorish gebied hopeloos achteraan bungelen en dat zal sneller gaan als bij TR vorig jaar.

      3. Door de regelswijzigingen en de extra neerwaatse druk heb je volgens de kenners meer power nodig. Iets dat Sauber tov 2016 niet heeft.

      Sauber gaat denk ik hopeloos achteraan rijden. Wat gezien hun staat van dienst van voor de BMW periode jammer te noemen is. Er moet gewoon wat gedaan worden aan die motor formule zodat meer fabrikanten (of zelfs privateers!) als motor leverancier willen instappen. Ik mis de tijden van Ford, Peugeot, Hart, Yamaha, Judd, Mugen, Ilmor etc Maar ja, ik ben dan ook een ouwe lul aan het worden :-)

      • + 1
      • 7 maa 2017 - 16:48
    • Speedl9

      Posts: 645

      Ligt eraan welke motor het zuinigst wordt met de meeste PK.

      Als de Ferrari 2016 motor op 950 PK zit en de 2017 op maar 980, dan valt alles nog wel mee met een goede motor.

      Honda is geknepen al niet betrouwbaar, Renault-2017 heeft soms kuren.... dan zou een Ferrari-2016 motor voorlopig nog uit de voeten kunnen.

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 18:16
    • Verwachting is dat het in Australië nog iets kan meezitten vanwege malheur bij de andere teams, daarna zal Sauber op elk volgend circuit het licht uit doen.

      • + 0
      • 7 maa 2017 - 19:33
  • Veldhuis

    Posts: 606

    Dat TR voor RB stond zal dan wel aan Max te danken zijn. Verwacht niet dat de motor op 100% zal staan. Betrouwbaarheid gaat voor.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 16:12
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Het staat in de sterren geschreven. Wat een proza van Marcus. Hij mag het hele seizoen het veld vooruit jagen.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 16:40
  • astridf1

    Posts: 332

    "Als iedereen zich enorm verbetert met nieuwe motoren dan gaat dat een groot probleem voor ons worden." Maar om positief af te sluiten: "Maar naar wat ik heb begrepen is dat niet het geval.""

    Wie heeft hier even niet opgelet? Hij of ik?

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 16:46
  • wat bijnan iemand weet: de 2017 motoren hebben een downgrade gekregen. de 2017 motoren zijn nog maar 200 cc, dus wat we allemaal al dachten: ericsson wordt kampioen!

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 17:37
  • Er komen ook geen updates voor de 2016 motoren, dus tel uit je winst.

    • + 0
    • 7 maa 2017 - 18:19

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