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Felipe Massa: "Geluid belangrijker dan rondetijd"

  • Gepubliceerd op 12 apr 2017 08:37
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De nieuwe generatie Formule 1-bolides heeft al heel wat tongen losgemaakt. Over het algemeen zijn de meningen positief, behalve als het aankomt op het geluid. De huidige 1.6 liter V6 turbomotoren produceren nog altijd te weinig volume. Dat concludeert ook Williams-coureur Felipe Massa, iemand die eerder met V8- en V10-motoren reed.

"De nieuwe auto's bieden veel grip in de bochten en liggen heerlijk op de weg", begint de Braziliaan tegenover Motorsport-Total.com. "Daarentegen moet gezegd worden dat het geluid nog te wensen over laat, en dat is wel een belangrijk punt voor de fans. Het geluid is belangrijker dan drie seconden rondetijd. Als het geluid goed is, dan zijn de fans gelukkig."

"De huidige aandrijflijnen produceren meer vermogen dan de V10-motoren van meer dan tien jaar geleden. De technologie is waanzinnig, maar je moet ook andere aspecten in ogenschouw nemen. De show is namelijk een ander verhaal. Het geluid is bijvoorbeeld nog niet goed. En dat is wel iets wat mensen doet besluiten om races wel of niet te bezoeken."

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  • Tonrossi

    Posts: 2.539

    Amen!

    • + 1
    • 12 apr 2017 - 08:50
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      Ik ben het er niet mee eens. Als de topteams op de baan aan elkaar gewaagd zijn en er normale inhaalacties plaatsvinden ipv kunstmatige, dan ben ik als fan tevreden. Aan het geluid en de bochtensnelheid heb je niets als de teams niet aan elkaar gewaagd zijn. Dat is mijn persoonlijke mening.

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 11:48
    • Samsonait

      Posts: 623

      Maar Stitch, dan kan je toch ook naar de formule e gaan kijken? Als ik naar het circuit ga wil ik nadat de race klaar is de eerst komende 4 uren die motoren nog in mijn oren horen te brullen, dat is auto racen. Als je een nieuwe auto koopt luister je toch ook eerst naar het geluid? Ga je toch ook even de motor starten en flink reffen bij een stoplicht. Tenminste dat doe ik. Dan mag je in mijn ogen ook van de koningsklasse verwachten dat daar een bruut geluid bij hoort.

      Eerst hadden we dat tenenkrommende turbo geluid elke keer als ze downshifte. en nu dit geluid. Is in mijn ogen echt een probleem waar wat aan gedaan moet worden

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 14:33
  • Erwinnaar

    Posts: 4.904

    Hij kan het weten, hij heeft gewoon gelijk. In 1999 was ik in Imola, kamperen langs de baan achter de beroemde Tamburello bocht.

    Zondagmorgen liet men de motoren warm draaien voor de warming-up. Geweldig moment om die v8 en v10 motoren een flink stuk verderop zo luid en duidelijk al te horen (zelfs stationair). Het trok ons richting het circuit, de spanning en adrenaline werd al gekweekt.

    Als ik bij Schiphol sta te spotten (niet GVD enz.) blijf ik het mooi vinden om die 747 of eerder dc 10 toestellen te zien landen of vertrekken. Machtig geluid en optisch leken ze wel traag trouwens, moet je je voorstellen dat die dingen geen herrie maken, dan kan die friettent wel opzouten daar.

    • + 3
    • 12 apr 2017 - 08:54
    • dutchiceman

      Posts: 4.572

      jammer hé, dat ook de vliegtuigen stiller worden...:(

      • + 4
      • 12 apr 2017 - 08:56
    • The dre

      Posts: 2.184

      Staat doe patatkar er nog steeds??
      Ik spot regelmatig bij woensdrecht, het heluid maakt idd de beleving;)
      Heerlijk als de f16's binnenkomen, maar zwlfs de pc7 blijft zo mooi om te zien en horen.

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 09:01
    • laagvliegerT

      Posts: 1.672

      Zéér herkenbaar verhaal Erwinnaar.

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 09:53
    • Opdeplank

      Posts: 1.193

      Spot on Erwin

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 10:23
    • rickf1

      Posts: 1.623

      Als frequent flyer ben ik toch erg blij dat die herrie binnenin af neemt. En als Schiphol omwonende ook dat het daarbuiten wat minder is.

      Je gaat eerder dood door veel geluid, 't is maar dat je het weet.

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 11:12
    • schwantz34

      Posts: 36.095

      Liever iets eerder dood met goed geluid, dan iets langer leven zonder ;)

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 14:45
  • Scuderia.Maranello

    Posts: 1.976

    Ik weet nog hoe ik 2 jaar geleden in Monza bijna achteroverviel toen ik de GP2's voorbij hoorde vliegen... er was toen een gigantisch verschil in geluid met de F1's .. dit jaar lijkt het al iets beter, die heerlijke jankende V8 of V10 motoren was echter de hoogtijd .. die zullen jammergenoeg nooit terugkomen dankzij de milieuridders de dag van vandaag ...

    The sound of brutal power & speed..liefst in combinatie met de geur van verbrand rubber.. Love it :D

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 08:57
  • Towel986

    Posts: 509

    Een rondetijd van drie seconden is wel héél erg snel :+

    Maar helemaal mee eens natuurlijk. Het 'gehuil van miljonairs' maakt de show

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:00
  • Jean Alesi

    Posts: 17.675

    Ik vind de snelheid / rondetijden wel enorm belangrijk, daar draait de f1 tenslotte om.
    Maar Massa heeft wel een punt, het geluid is nog steeds zwaar ondermaats, dat was voor mij in het verleden ook altijd wel dé reden om een grand prix live bij te wonen.
    Hoogtijdagen voor mij was begin 90er jaren een veld gevuld met V8/V10/V12 motoren, iedere wagen met een eigen karakteristieke sound.

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:07
    • dutchformula1

      Posts: 245

      Dat was zeker mooi, V8/V10 en V12. Heb dat ook nog gehoord. Dan maken deze pruttelpotjes weinig herrie

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 11:27
  • Richardt.

    Posts: 1.531

    Wijze woorden van Massa!

    Leuk dat ze nu tijdens de race af en toe de verschillen in rondetijden en G-krachten t.o.v. vorig jaar in beeld laten zien, maar ik als kijker zie er niets van op TV. Op het circuit zul je het misschien wel zien als je vorig jaar en dit jaar dezelfde GP bezoekt, maar hard gaat het toch wel.
    De auto's zien er inmiddels weer een stuk beter uit, nu alleen nog een passend motor geluid

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:07
  • Motori-arte

    Posts: 1.358

    Welkom in 2017. Wees blij dat er nog geluid uitkomt

    • + 1
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:09
  • plantje

    Posts: 2

    Ok moet zeggen dat ik het geluid van de V8 gehoord heb en deze zeker beter klinkt dan de V6. Maar ik was afgelopen zaterdag bij de Grand Prix in China, einde lange rechte stuk bij de hairpin en moet zeggen dat de motoren gewoon best goed klonken dit jaar, alleen de Honda was bagger!

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:12
    • laagvliegerT

      Posts: 1.672

      'Best goed'
      Dat is natuurlijk iets heel anders dan klinken als keihard scheurend metaal.

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 09:42
    • laagvliegerT

      Posts: 1.672

      Ik bedoel dus eigenlijk te zeggen dat 'best goed' bij lange na niet goed genoeg is als volledig emotioneel overdonderd worden door het geluid wat die apparaten destijds produceerden.

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 09:52
  • NEXT SPARE VAMP

    Posts: 1.874

    Een nieuwe lente, een nieuw geluid gaat dus helaas niet op.

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:42
  • JV fan

    Posts: 2.523

    dat geklaag over het geluid snap ik niet.. Uit de Ferrari,s van vorig jaar kwam heel erg veel geluiud! vooral uit de wagen nummer 5 ..

    • + 4
    • 12 apr 2017 - 09:43
    • Jean Alesi

      Posts: 17.675

      klopt, ouderwets gejank :)

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 09:48
    • Supersoft

      Posts: 1.102

      @ JV FAN: Dat geluid was 10 jaar terug echt veel beter. Ik stond in Hockenheim (oude circuit) eens aan het einde van het rechte stuk. Eerst hoor je keihard gejank steeds dichter bij komen en vervolgens een gedreun bij het terugschakelen! Dat geluid gaat door je hele lichaam en je krijgt overal mieretieten, fantastisch! Moeten ze nu ook weer doen.

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 10:04
    • Motori-arte

      Posts: 1.358

      Haha, mooi als iemand er dan serieus op in gaat. Dan weet je dat die goed is.

      • + 1
      • 12 apr 2017 - 10:49
    • Supersoft

      Posts: 1.102

      Haha, ja hem m ;-D

      • + 0
      • 12 apr 2017 - 11:30
  • gestart

    Posts: 117

    Ook ik mis het oude geluid van de jaren 90, maar ik vind de rondetijden net zo belangrijk.
    Ik zie wel degelijk een verschil in snelheid, de eerste paar keer dat ik de 2017 auto zoveel harder door de bocht zag gaan kreeg ik gewoon kippenvel.

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 10:00
  • Arran

    Posts: 1.454

    Hoe meer lawaai, hoe inefficienter de engineering.
    Maar wordt wel opgelost door sound-engineering.

    Met een paar jaar krijgen we electrische wagens, met 5gigawatt versterkers en full 7.1 surround speakers erin die keihard broem broem uitgillen, om zo de fans blij te houden.

    • + 1
    • 12 apr 2017 - 10:14
  • Daisai

    Posts: 209

    Dus dan gaan ze over naar V10 of V12 zodat mensen weer met oorkleppen op de tribunes zitten?

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 10:34
  • rickf1

    Posts: 1.623

    Dinosaurus.

    Over 10 jaar weet een hele generatie niet meer wat kabaal is, dan zijn de meeste straatauto's ook stil.

    Geluid = inefficient. Dat verwacht je niet bij de allerbeste technologie.

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 11:11
  • misstappen

    Posts: 2.865

    Massa past dat credo nu al toe..., zijn rondetijden zijn nu ook niet al te best :-)

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 13:12
  • Numnum

    Posts: 4.863

    Dood paard...

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 19:33
  • f1 benelux

    Posts: 3.957

    Zou ie in z'n vrije weekends op een Harley rondtorren? ;)

    • + 0
    • 12 apr 2017 - 23:46

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