McLaren waakt voor nadelige gevolgen tweede Honda-team

  • Gepubliceerd op 23 apr 2017 14:33
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  • Door: Rutger Lauvenberg

McLaren staat niet negatief tegenover de wens van Honda om een tweede team van motoren te voorzien. De Japanse autofabrikant die sinds 2015 de motoren levert aan McLaren, wil graag een tweede team als klant voor hun motoren. Dit zou namelijk betekenen dat Honda  meer data kan vergaren, om de grote problemen die op dit moment de motoren teisteren, op te kunnen lossen. McLaren waakt echter voor mogelijk nadelige gevolgen.

Teambaas-Eric Boullier meldde aan ESPN: "Als Honda meer teams van motoren gaat voorzien heeft dat ongetwijfeld voordelen. Maar het zal Honda veel aandacht kosten om ook dit tweede team zo optimaal mogelijk te voorzien en dat kan nadelig uitwerken voor ons. Maar wat er ook gebeurt, we blijven partners. Er zal zeker een moment komen, waarop zij een tweede team als klant zullen krijgen en dat moeten we toejuichen,  maar tegelijkertijd moeten we er zeker van zijn dat het voor ons geen nadelige gevolgen heeft."

Hoewel Honda sinds 2015 vele problemen kende, denkt Boullier niet dat het hebben van slechts één klantteam, nadelig is geweest voor de motorenfabrikant: "Ik denk nog steeds dat dit makkelijker is voor hen. We moeten namelijk eerst zorgen dat we de huidige motor op orde krijgen. Zoals we er nu al drie jaar voor staan, kan het niet langer. We moeten werken aan een herstelplan en daarbij kunnen we niet afgeleid worden door een tweede team dat ook veel aandacht nodig heeft."

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  • Ho jongens, Gooi je Veto er maar in, straks wordt je nog competitief

    • + 1
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:01
    • Mojito

      Posts: 4.843

      Ja, die exclusiviteit eis is wel erg dom van ze geweest. Als ze direct toegestaan hadden dat Honda ook andere teams zou leveren waren de provlemen lang zo groot en langslepend niet geweest.

      • + 0
      • 23 apr 2017 - 15:16
    • Dikkedop

      Posts: 723

      Alsof het nog slechter kan dan dit...

      • + 0
      • 23 apr 2017 - 21:31
  • Als Honda meer teams van motoren gaat voorzien dan rijdt McLaren waarschijnlijk niet meer achteraan.

    • + 3
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:15
    • Tifoso

      Posts: 2.985

      Tenzij de andere team RBR is. Al zie ik dat niet meer gebeuren nu Renault het steeds beter voor elkaar krijgt.

      • + 0
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:14
  • KoBus

    Posts: 2.382

    Wat een paranoïde gedachtegang zeg....

    Ik snap trouwens niet waarom dit in een interview aan de orde moet komen, hierover maak je intern afspraken met Honda en klaar.

    Ze zouden bij McLaren juist blij moeten zijn met een tweede team die meehelpt om de motor te ontwikkelen, of zijn ze bij McLaren bang dat het tweede team het beter zal doen.

    • + 0
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:24
  • koopmaro

    Posts: 17

    Dus McLaren rijdt volgend seizoen weer achteraan, of rijdt helemaal niet, met Honda motoren?

    • + 0
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:29
  • Trulla

    Posts: 1.423

    Nee, zo min mogelijk testkilometers, dat heeft positieve gevolgen.. Daarnaast hebben Mercedes en Ferrari nu ook niet bepaald last van hun klantenteams.

    • + 1
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:34
  • Baksteen

    Posts: 705

    Stap gewoon over naar Renault. Renault heeft vanaf Juli dit jaar een moter met net zoveel vermogen als de Fer en Merc. Het bestuur van Mclaren snapt er helemaal niets van. Voor iedere stap voorwaarts die Honda maakt maken haar concurenten er 2. Het is een zinkend schip. Dat was het vanaf dag 1. Maar goed weltrusten Mclaren bestuur en hartelijk gefeliciteerd met het jarenlange systematisch om zeep helpen van wat eens een topteam was. Over een jaar hebben we het weer over hetzelfde probleem dat Honda heet.

    • + 0
    • 23 apr 2017 - 15:37
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @BAKSTEEN

      Vraag me af of REN dat zal zou doen....

      Ze hebben naast hun eigen team ook twee klantenteams, dus genoeg werk aan de winkel.
      En bovendien ziet natuurlijk REN ook wat er nu gebeurt tussen McL en Honda, en met de toestand met RBR in 2015 in gedachten, zullen ze hier niet zo snel instappen.

      • + 0
      • 23 apr 2017 - 15:57
    • Baksteen

      Posts: 705

      @kobus

      Zak Brown van Mclaren is in Bahrein gespot met mensen van Renault. Ik hoop dat er voorzichtige toenadering gezocht wordt zodat aan het eind van dit seizoen die falende Honda PU in een Sauber chassis mag doortuffen of liever gezegd sputteren. Honda is einde verhaal, ze hebben minstens 5 jaar nodig om de rest bij te benen en tegen die tijd kijken we alweer tegen een nieuwe moterformule aan. Het zou echt ontzettend dom zijn om verder te gaan met ze.

      • + 0
      • 23 apr 2017 - 16:19
    • Brammus

      Posts: 778

      Dan zullen zich moeten schikken als "gewoon klantenteam" want zoals McL met Honda omgaat (exclusiviteit etc.), zal Renault niet zo gauw pikken, denk ik.

      • + 1
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:02
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @BAKSTEEN

      Ach er wordt wel meer onderling gesproken (RBR mensen zie je ook wel eens met MER mensen praten). Het enig bevestigd (motor)contact is er geweest tussen McL en MER en eigenlijk is dat ook het meest logische gezien de historie.

      Het nadeel voor McL is dat het eigenlijk een Honda-fabrieksteam is en dat er zoveel financiële binding tussen die twee is. Mocht eind 2017 Honda stoppen of McL uit het project stappen, zal dit zwaarwegende financiële consequenties voor McL hebben.

      Wat ik gewoon mis is dat McL samen met Honda er de schouders onder zet en niet iedere keer dat gez**k in de pers.

      • + 2
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:23
    • Tifoso

      Posts: 2.985

      @Bramus: inderdaad, in principe hebben ze beste kansen bij Honda, maar in feite hadden ze beter bij Mercedes kunnen blijven.

      • + 1
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:23
    • Brammus

      Posts: 778

      Tja, met een Mercedes fabrieksteam op de grid, zul je niet zo makkelijk kampioen worden met merc klantenmotoren. Op zich was dit wel een goede keuze destijds.
      Maar goed, dat heb je met haast elke klantenmotor (redbull gaat het ook nog moeilijk krijgen als het Renault team serieus mee gaat strijden).
      En @Kobus; Ik mis die samenwerking ook. Er zit zoveel kennis en $ bij die twee! Als ze serieus de koppen bij elkaar gaan steken en écht samenwerken, kan daar zoiets moois uit komen. Het komt nu over als "tegenwerken".

      • + 1
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:37
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @BRAMMUS

      Klopt, McL ligt zo met Honda overhoop - dat kan op deze manier alleen maar misgaan.
      Natuurlijk heeft RBR in 2015 ook een hoop stennis lopen schoppen, maar samen met Ilmor heeft REN stevige stappen kunnen zetten.

      Ik had als McL gewoon tegen Honda gezegd: "Wat en wanneer ben je iets nodig, we zitten hier samen in en willen er samen een succes van maken". En vooral niet in de pers je leverancier/partner af lopen vallen, dit werkt alleen contraproductief.

      • + 1
      • 23 apr 2017 - 17:52
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Nadelig? Beroerder kan het niet. Satelliet teams waren er altijd om zo veel mogelijk data te verzamelen , om zo snel mogelijk de motoren te verbeteren. Je zou denken dat McLaren daar baat bij heeft. Was ook een stomme beslissing van Ron Dennis om dat een paar jaar geleden tegen te houden. Denk dat Honda en McLaren dan veel verder geweest zouden zijn.

    • + 0
    • 23 apr 2017 - 18:53
    • Alleen RBR is geweigerd door RD. Sinds dit jaar is Honda er überhaupt pas klaar voor om een 2e team te leveren.

      Wees blij dat RBR geweigerd is anders had Max naast Alonso op een klapstoeltje gezeten.

      • + 0
      • 24 apr 2017 - 18:27
  • Ondertussen ook pas drie keer gepost in min of meer dezelfde vorm... Kom op jongens beetje creatiever ...

    • + 1
    • 23 apr 2017 - 21:18
  • mediF1

    Posts: 2.841

    Waarom niet wat kan er nog slechter gaan dan

    • + 0
    • 23 apr 2017 - 22:38
  • Recycle nieuws.

    • + 1
    • 24 apr 2017 - 06:22
  • Zet maar in het filter: recycle nieuws.

    • + 0
    • 24 apr 2017 - 06:25
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Ik heb van het begin af aan gezegd dat het dom is dat Honda zich exclusief aan maar een team koppelde. Zeker in hun tweede jaar hand men bij Honda de ogen moeten openen en een tweede team moeten voorzien van motoren. Data vergaren is toch waar het om gaat en wie weet hadden ze nu wel een degelijke motor gehad daardoor. Honda en McLaren zijn hierin alletwee ontzettend dom in geweest en staarden zich blind op zaken uit het verleden.

    • + 0
    • 24 apr 2017 - 08:11
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Het is maar goed dat Honda geen tweede team had aangenomen.
    McLaren kon deze drie jaar ellende financieel nog dragen omdat Honda vrijwel alle financiële ellende op zich nam maar je moet er toch niet aan denken dat er een ander team met die zooi had moeten werken. Een Sauber of Force India was na twee seizoenen Honda totaal blut en failliet geweest.
    Thank god voor de wens van McLaren op het alleenrecht van die Honda rotzooi.

    • + 0
    • 24 apr 2017 - 09:17

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