Honda-baas Hasegawa: "Het was geen fout om een nieuwe motor te ontwikkelen"

  • Gepubliceerd op 28 apr 2017 16:44
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  • Door: Rik Klein Entink

Yusuke Hasegawa neemt deel aan de persconferentie na VT2 en de Formule 1-baas van Honda wordt natuurlijk gewezen op de tijden die het team van McLaren op dit moment doormaakt. Honda ontwikkelde een nieuwe motor, maar die blijkt slechter dan de motor van vorig jaar. 

Goed richting gekozen

Op de vraag of het een fundamentele fout was een nieuwe motor te bouwen zegt Hasegawa: "Het is een lastige vraag, maar ik denk niet dat wij daarmee een grote fout hebben gemaakt. Wij wisten dat we alles aan de motor moesten veranderen met het oog op 2017. Sommige onderdelen van de motor zijn ook echt beter geworden, maar we hebben een probleem met het vermogen. Maar we hebben geen hele grote fout gemaakt, de richting die wij kozen was de goede."

Over de ontwikkelingen gedurende het huidige seizoen zegt hij: "Op dit moment is het natuurlijk teleurstellend, maar de basis van het concept is goed waardoor wij nog behoorlijke vorderingen kunnen maken."

Honda praat met meerdere teams

Er zijn geruchten dat Honda een tweede team zou gaan voorzien van motoren. De contracten met Sauber zijn op een haar na getekend zo wordt gezegd en McLaren heeft de noodzakelijke toestemming gegeven om een ander team van motoren te voorzien. "Wij zien vooral voordelen omdat wij veel meer data krijgen over de motoren. En wij ontkennen zeker niet dat wij een tweede team willen voorzien van onze motoren. Om welk team het dan gaat wil hij niet zeggen: "Wij praten met verschillende teams, maar op dit moment kan ik er niet meer over zeggen."

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  • Nee, het was alleen fout om nieuwe "foute" motor te ontwikkelen.

    • + 0
    • 28 apr 2017 - 16:46
    • robertos

      Posts: 558

      precies, het kopieeren van de vorige fouten was behoorlijk knullig

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 16:49
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Regel 1 op dit niveau: nooit toegeven dat je fout zit, blijven ontkennen tot je een ons weegt.

      • + 1
      • 28 apr 2017 - 17:37
    • Regel 2: als je dan eenmaal een ons weegt doe je gewoon net of je de vraag niet goed hebt verstaan.

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 17:52
  • REDNECK

    Posts: 373

    Nog een jaartje en ze zitten op het niveau van 2016.
    Niks an de hand.

    • + 0
    • 28 apr 2017 - 17:00
    • Dp1998

      Posts: 994

      Over drie jaar zitten ze op het niveau Mercedes motor eind 2016

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 21:12
  • Je mag na drie maanden ook nog niet verwachten dat de motor op hetzelfde niveau is dan de drie jaar oude vorige motor. Nou weet ik zelf eigenlijk niet of ik dit cynisch bedoel of niet.

    • + 0
    • 28 apr 2017 - 17:00
    • h3x6g0n

      Posts: 456

      Nog te newbie hier om een plusje te mogen uitdelen, maar bij deze +1. Bizar idd. Natuurlijk is het geen fout om een compleet nieuwe motor te bouwen, als de huidige niet mee kan komen. Een nieuwe motor bouwen die minder is dan de huidige, kan je ook geen fout noemen. Dat is namelijk een jammerlijk geval van een 'brevet van onvermogen' halen (pun intended) en een aantal gradaties erger dan een fout. Echter, Japanners kennende, zullen ze uiteindelijk keihard terugslaan. Er staan ons mooie F1- seizoenen te wachten :)

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 23:00
  • Tuurlijk was het geen fout, kijk maar hoe goed het nu gaat met Mclaren Honda

    • + 1
    • 28 apr 2017 - 17:08
  • De F1 instappen was op zich prima, maar om in te gaan op het verzoek/eis van Mclaren om dat gelijk met een ingewikkeld "size zero" motorconcept te doen (om daar aerodynamisch voordeel uit te halen) was hun grootste fout. Ik vind het zelfs arrogant en dom van zowel Honda als van Mclaren, want die weten echt wel ongeveer hoe de andere fabriekanten deze nieuwe motoren zouden ontwikkelen. Dit jaar beginnen ze weer helemaal opnieuw en nog steeds stapelen de problemen zich op, en ze hebben geen flauw idee hoe ze die moeten oplossen. Volgend jaar komt zeer waarschijnlijk Sauber er ook bij en dan kunnen ze veel grotere stappen (meer data) maken met het ontwikkelen van hun motoren. Als Mclaren niet zo arrogant was geweest met hun "exclusiviteitsafspraak" 3 jaar geleden, dan hadden alle partijen er zeker een heel stuk beter voor gestaan dan nu het geval is.

    • + 0
    • 28 apr 2017 - 17:10
    • Politik

      Posts: 8.359

      Met 'als' heb ik een hele kast vol liggen.
      Daar kun je dus helemaal niets mee.
      De exclusiviteitsafspraak, zoals jij het noemt, was destijds best logisch.
      McLaren steekt zijn nek uit en neemt grote risico's om een nieuwe motorfabrikant te omarmen. Hoe groot die risico's waren, is inmiddels wel gebleken.
      Om te voorkomen dat een sterke concurrent mee zou gaan profiteren van een PU, waar McLaren veel tijd, energie en risico in heeft gestopt , is deze afspraak gemaakt.
      Jij noemt dat arrogant, ik noem het zakelijk.
      Het enige wat je ze kwalijk kunt nemen, is dat ze geen achterhoede team hebben toegelaten. Een categorie waar ze zelf helaas ook deel van uit maken, helaas.

      • + 2
      • 28 apr 2017 - 17:40
    • @Politik, met een kleine toevoeging dat Honda pas sinds dit jaar hun faciliteiten hebben verhoogd in de UK om überhaupt een tweede team van motoren te kunnen voorzien, dus eerder was geeneens een optie geweest.

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 18:14
    • Achteraf is mooi wonen, zeggen ze. M.a.w. voor hetzelfde geldt was die motor van 2015/16 wel goed geweest en dan zou Honda (maar vooral McLaren) de hemel in worden geprezen, met hun speciale concept.

      Hoewel Honda vooraf al gewaarschuwd had dat het concept niet zou werken, kan je niet de schuld alleen bij McLaren leggen. Dan had Honda namelijk gewoon moeten weigeren dit concept te bouwen en dat hebben ze niet gedaan.

      Het was gewoon een gok (van beide) en die is verkeerd uitgepakt.

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 18:32
    • Dp1998

      Posts: 994

      Was het realistisch van mclaren om van Honda te verwachten dat ze meteen een wk motor hadden? Nee. Maar als mclaren, Honda de mogelijkheid had gegeven om een extra team van motoren te voorzien dan hadden ze wel een beter pakket gehad dan wat nu het geval is.

      • + 0
      • 28 apr 2017 - 21:20
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Ze praten zeker vooral met GP2 teams...

    • + 3
    • 28 apr 2017 - 17:36
  • Prima dat grote fabrikanten is eigenwijs zijn... Honda staat daar trouwens allang bekend om ... Als ze het ei van Columbus hadden gevonden met een ander, afwijkend concept waren ze de helden, nu het moedige initiatief is mislukt ben je een loser.... Als je wint heb je vrienden.....

    • + 0
    • 28 apr 2017 - 18:16
  • Allemaal leuk en aardig, Maar ik schrik hoeveel beter Alonso is als onze zuiderlijke grote vriend. Je ziet het ook met Stroll en Massa. Echt schrikbarend die grote verschillen. Je moet echt wel een potje kunnen sturen om deze wagens snel een ronde te laten rijden. Nu worden de mannen van de jongetjes onderscheiden.

    • + 2
    • 28 apr 2017 - 19:43
  • lexe

    Posts: 97

    Honda. Hopeloos Ondermaats Na Desastreuze Aannamens.

    • + 2
    • 28 apr 2017 - 20:03
  • Veldhuis

    Posts: 606

    Nee, het was alleen fout om een slechte motor te ontwikkelen

    • + 0
    • 29 apr 2017 - 08:18

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