Virgin Racing: "Auto voor 2011 zal er anders uitzien"

  • Gepubliceerd op 13 okt 2010 10:23
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Het debuutseizoen van Virgin Racing nadert zijn einde en de Britse nieuwkomer heeft een moeizaam jaar achter de rug. Vooral het begin was een worsteling, met een te kleine brandstoftank en veel betrouwbaarheidsproblemen. Maar langzaam maar zeker ging het beter en de laatste races kon Virgin Racing zich meten met Lotus F1 Racing.

Volgend jaar wil de Britse renstal een nieuwe stap maken en de opvolger van de VR-01 krijgt een ander uiterlijk, zo belooft teamdirecteur Graeme Lowdon op Motorsport-Total.com. “We boeken grote vooruitgang. Met onze CFD-methode is het ook niet duur om te blijven doorontwikkelen. We produceren de onderdelen pas als we ze ontworpen en getest hebben met Computional Fluid Dynamics.”

“De nieuwe auto herbergt veel nieuwe elementen. De aerodynamica verandert, mede door de regelwijzigingen op dat gebied, met name aan de achterkant van de auto. Daarnaast hebben we dit jaar ook heel veel geleerd. Er is veel dat we nu beter weten dan een jaar geleden. Onze nieuwe auto zal er dan ook flink anders uitzien in 2011.”

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  • ja staat ander banden merk op de band.:P

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    • 13 okt 2010 - 10:47
  • miauw

    Posts: 1.136

    Ze zullen ongetwijfeld geleerd hebben van dit jaar, maar of je met CFD alleen in staat bent om een goede auto te ontwerpen?

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    • 13 okt 2010 - 10:51
    • mario

      Posts: 11.603

      In de Le Mans (Series dacht ik) rijden ze er ook mee rond en dat gaat daar wel goed, dus het kan wel.

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      • 13 okt 2010 - 11:23
  • supertank

    Posts: 116

    CFD is een uiterst goede methode om dingen te ontwerpen, echter ben ik het wat dit betreft volledig met Adrian Newey eens. Hij zei zoiets als: \"iets wat op de computer goed werkt, hoeft in de praktijk helemaal geen verbetering te zijn. Daarom wordt pas na een windtunnel test bepaald of een onderdeel op de auto komt\"

    Virgin heeft daar geen geld voor dus is het iets meer trial en error waardoor de ontwikkelingstijd wat langzamer is. maar dat neemt niet weg dat het echt wel heel veel kosten bespaard.

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    • 13 okt 2010 - 11:33
    • Ja en zelfs bij McLaren en Ferrari horen we soms geruchten van \'De updates werken nog niet zo goed\' dus zo accuraat zijn die windtunneltests ook weer niet. Ik denk dat CFD gewoon de toekomst is, zeker met de beperkingen op de windtunnels en gezien het feit dat echt testen de enige manier is om te kijken of een update daadwerkelijk werkt.

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      • 13 okt 2010 - 12:44
    • Kijk, voorafgaand aan het seizoen hadden ze natuurlijk alleen de theorie. Ze hebben nu ook de echte waarden die de door de computer gegenereerde data hebben opgeleverd. Die kunnen ze dus invoeren en daarmee wordt de nieuwe voorspelling voor de VR-02 een stuk beter. Met als logisch gevolg, dat de auto sneller is.

      Als het goed is, natuurlijk...

      • + 0
      • 13 okt 2010 - 13:10
    • En Nick Wirth mag nog niet eens de veters strikken van Adrian Newey :P

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      • 13 okt 2010 - 18:50
  • fulcoboy

    Posts: 68

    Je moet maar denken als ze binnen een paar jaar eventueel de windtunnels afschaffen en CFD wordt verplicht dat Virgin een grote voorsprong zal hebben :)

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    • 13 okt 2010 - 13:11
    • sanger

      Posts: 46

      Virgin is niet de enige die CFD gebruiken. Renault is er ook heel ver mee. Ferrari en McLaren hebben ook hun afdelingen ervoor volgens mij. Dan zullen de andere teams ook wel niet achter blijven vermoed ik.

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      • 13 okt 2010 - 14:36
  • Mirani

    Posts: 3.056

    Het grootte nadeel van CFD is dat je maar 1 ding kan uittesten per simulatie. Dus als je een andere vleugelafstelling wilt uitesten, dan moet je gelijk een nieuwe simulatie starten. Dat kost veel tijd ten opzichte van een windtunnel, waarbij je heel snel verschillende afstellingen kan uittesten binnen 1 simulatie. Bij een windtunnel hoeft alleen een grote fan worden gestart en bij CFD moet een computer eerst alles gaan renderen en dat duurt… een uur? Misschien nog wel langer. Aan de andere kant zal je voor een windtunnel eerst een model moeten bouwen om uit te testen.
    Zowel de windtunnel als CFD hebben plus en min punten, daardoor is een combinatie van beide op dit moment gewoon het beste.

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    • 13 okt 2010 - 14:14
  • veldt000

    Posts: 180

    cfd is gewoon de windtunnel, maar dan op de computer...
    en cfd zal steeds sneller en sneller gaan, door vooruitgang van software en met name hardware.

    • + 0
    • 13 okt 2010 - 21:27
  • felix50

    Posts: 5.792

    Het cdf is nog niet compleet genoeg .het is vooral in het begin van de ontwikkeling handig maar de puntjes op die i zetten doen ze schijnbaar toch in de windtunnel.

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    • 14 okt 2010 - 06:46
  • Alle topteams maken gebruik van CFD. Jongens als Ferrari, Renault en McLaren zijn daar natuurlijk ook erg ver mee.
    Ontwerpen op basis van CFD alleen is volgens mij echt nog niet genoeg. We hebben o.a. bij McLaren al twee keer gezien dat ze met iets nieuws naar het circuit kwamen, het vrijdags testen en het er voor de zaterdag toch maar weer af haalden omdat het (nog) niet werkte...

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    • 14 okt 2010 - 09:05

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