Jenson Button wil extra gewicht voor coureurs na winst

  • Gepubliceerd op 20 okt 2017 15:35
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  • Door: Rik Klein Entink

De afgelopen jaren is er veel gesproken over de dominantie van Mercedes en de afstand tussen de topteams en de rest van het veld. Met nieuwe motoren-reglementen over een paar jaar wil men de onderlinge verschillen terugbrengen, maar Jenson Button heeft nog andere ideeën. 

Extra gewicht bij winst

In de Evening Standard zegt Button: "In sommige categorieën krijgen wagens gewichten mee. Als je een race wint, dan krijg je extra gewicht. Mensen zullen zeggen dat het niet goed is voor de sport, maar dat is DRS ook niet. Dit zou een eerlijkere maatregel zijn en het is de moeite waard om te bekijken wat de fans ervan vinden."

Maar de wereldkampioen van 2009 realiseert zich dat het niet eenvoudig zal zijn om het te introduceren. "We weten allemaal dat fans het geweldig zouden vinden dat alle teams op het podium kunnen komen, maar de grote teams vinden dat natuurlijk niet geweldig. Maar misschien moet ik het bij Ross Brawn onder de aandacht brengen", aldus Button. 

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  • ray1975

    Posts: 2.400

    Wat een onzin.... Het is geen DTM Jenson

    • + 10
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:38
    • nutstree

      Posts: 545

      Was het niet juist de DTM die het kortgeleden per direct afgeschaft had?

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2017 - 15:43
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Waar ik weinig mee op heb zijn mensen die per definitie ideeën afschieten zonder zelf met een beter plan komen.
      Al die lapmiddelen zijn er niet voor de fun maar helaas bittere noodzaak omdat F1 anders helemaal niet om aan te zien zou zijn. Zonder dit soort kunst-en-vliegwerk krijg je zeer waarschijnlijk een veld dat na het startschot steeds verder uit elkaar loopt. Of men daar op zit te wachten...

      • + 4
      • 20 okt 2017 - 15:56
    • Ik vind het wel leuker dat de DTM zonder bandenwarmers rijdt, de strategie en de eerste paar rondes na de stop zijn er leuker op geworden mijn inziens. Wat meer actie. Geen idee of dit voor de F1 haalbaar is.

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:30
    • pagani

      Posts: 456

      Idd ray1975 het is geen DTM belachelijk dat button der mee komt maakt de sport nog saaier nee dankje wel

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:31
    • nutstree

      Posts: 545

      @MrMarly

      Waarom niet? Denk je dat de F1 vroeger bandenwarmers had? Ik heb 15jaar de F1 niet meer gevolgd, en door jouw opmerking besef ik me dat ik onbewust na een pitstop verwachtte dat ze een fout zouden maken vanwege koude banden. Die ik dus de laatste 2 jaar niet gezien heb.

      Het zou alles veel tactischer maken in de F1 rondom wissels.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:50
    • Nutstree, ik twijfel daarover omdat de FIA behoorlijk doorslaat in de veiligheid de laatste jaren.

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2017 - 17:08
    • @CARAMBA foute gedachtegang. Je moet het dna van de F1 niet willen veranderen. De dominantie van Mercedes verdwijnt vanzelf een keer. 25 jaar geleden waren de onderlinge verschillen trouwens nog veel en veel groter.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 17:12
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Typeer het DNA van de F1?

      Naar mijn mening is het DNA al verpest (te groen, te weinig motoren/versnellingsbakken, foute motor formule, DRS, HALO mbt volgend jaar) dus strafgewicht kan er ook nog wel bij.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 17:58
    • Box1986

      Posts: 1.662

      Ja de dominantie van MB zal verdwijnen maar dan zal het waarschijnlijk een ander team zijn dat er bovenuit steekt. Is eigen aan de f1.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 18:21
    • Ik dus

      Posts: 950

      vroeger viel het banden warmen ook minder op denk ik @NUTSTREE.
      Het banden vooraf opwarmen is ooit begonnen met kasten waar onderin gewoon een hete lucht blower zat.
      Soms veel te heet...soms te koud...nogal primitief eigenlijk.
      Maar ik weet niet meer wanneer dat precies begon en wie daar de uitvinders van waren...

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 20:50
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      Nadat je een race hebt gewonnen moet je verplicht twee dikke hamburgers en een grote halve liter bier naar binnen werken. Dat zal ze leren!

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 10:04
  • Jenson was uitgekeken op de Formule 1, en ik eigenlijk ook op Jenson. Zijn passie voor Formule 1 is verdwenen en dat is ook vrij duidelijk, en dan met dit soort ideeën komen ook...

    • + 1
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:41
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Zijn passie voor zelf F1 racen is verdwenen misschien. Maar na 15 jaar F1 heeft ie er nog altijd meer verstand van dan het hele forum hier bij elkaar. Je kan overigens nog best passie voor iets hebben zonder dat je het zelf in uitvoering brengt ;-)

      En daarnaast, het is maar een idee en het is een beter idee dan de zoveelste kunstgreep als DRS o.i.d.

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 07:30
  • MadMax

    Posts: 185

    straf gewicht ipv van drs ben ik het wel mee eens., is eerlijker. en zo kunnen de kleinere team ook eens op het ereschavot staan!

    • + 2
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:41
    • En tegelijk worden de beste rijder gestraft met extra gewicht?

      • + 2
      • 20 okt 2017 - 19:23
    • Wat is een Grand Prix-overwinning nog waard als kleinere teams dankzij kunstgrepen op het ereschavot terecht komen? Noem het dan maar Mini Prix of zo... En count me out!

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 19:33
    • ray1975

      Posts: 2.400

      Inderdaad Benno329.... Onzin regel.... Gewoon V12 motor achterin de auto en waar nodig 3 per wedstrijd. Jenson ga maar naar de formule E.... Ook een onzin klasse zonder enige spanning en een Pitstop van 50sec voor een nieuwe batterij....

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 20:50
  • 40 miljoen euro investeren om 2 tienden van een seconde harder te gaan dan anderen, en als dat lukt dan krijg je een rol lood mee de volgende wedstrijd... jep, dat zal wel werken in de F1.

    • + 11
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:41
    • A.I.F1

      Posts: 1.080

      Haha.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:08
    • Precies dit. Dan is het einde meteen zoek.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:30
    • Ps.... Loodvervanger dan he,lood mag niet meer,,,,:) gewoon een paar blokken beton.... Maar er wordt wel moeilijk gedaan over dit idee maar is niks origineels of nieuw aan... extra gewicht , of de motor "knijpen" Turbo druk verminderen, Etc etc . Het gebeurd of is allemaal al een keer toegepast.... Wordt wel moe van dit soort coureurs die er zelf mee gestopt zijn, en dan met dit soort oude ideen komen, alsof ze het wiel opnieuw hebben uitgevonden

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:38
    • ray1975

      Posts: 2.400

      This Guy..... Geweldig omschreven TOP

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 20:51
  • Waarom bracht Jenson dit niet bij Brawn onder de aandacht toen hij voor hem reed in 2009?
    juist...

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:43
    • Dat heeft hij wel gedaan, maar Brawn zag daar het nut niet van in ;)

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2017 - 15:53
    • LOL

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:39
    • Musky

      Posts: 2.187

      Racen is een uitdaging...... DRS heeft ook niets te maken met een uitdaging. Als je snel genoeg bent kun je een WK titel binnen halen,maar bewijs het ook eens andersom om met een verzwaarde bolide WK te worden wat een lastige uitdaging is en dat heeft de F1nodig.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:49
  • Button: bij winst moet de corour verplicht naar de snackbar.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:48
    • Musky

      Posts: 2.187

      Het gaat niet over de coureur dat hij obesitas krijgt.....:-)

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:52
  • Ik heb liever niet dat Button zich met de regels gaat bemoeien als ik dit zo lees.

    • + 7
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:50
  • Wie?

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:54
  • wjv01

    Posts: 6

    je bent niet goed jenson je gaat iemand toch geen straf geven! lijkt me beter om niks meer te zeggen

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:54
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Dat geld ook als hoofdletters en enige vorm van correct gebruik van interpunctie in je zin ontbreekt.

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 07:35
  • Laptom

    Posts: 175

    Op zich geen verkeerd idee om de verschillen tussen de teams te verkleinen. Wellicht wel een maximum aan verbinden..

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:55
    • Of maximum snelheid invoeren?

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 19:26
  • Tarmac

    Posts: 9

    Dus omdat DRS een slechte/oneerlijke regels is moeten andere slechte/oneerlijke regels ook een kans krijgen, juist....

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:56
  • Jenson Button wil extra gewicht voor coureurs na winst.
    Dus als Hamilton wint moet hij een week lang naar de FEBO voor extra gewicht.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:57
    • Grillburgers naar binnen werken... Mmmmmm

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:09
  • rondb

    Posts: 13

    Verplicht extra stop bij de Mac?

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 15:58
  • Bah.. Doe er dan meteen een reverse grid bij voor de volgende race :-)

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:01
  • 0xygen

    Posts: 1.160

    Alsjeblieft niet, dan krijg je luie fabrikanten. Slechte auto opleveren want wordt toch wel weer gecompenseerd..

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:03
  • Ik ben tegen alle vormen van kunstmatig bij elkaar brengen van een grid. Zo ook deze (en DRS natuurlijk)

    Het enige wat ik verantwoord zou vinden is een budgetplafond voor ontwikkelingen op materieel gebied, kostprijs producties.

    Maar coureurs, engeneers etc moeten nog steeds te verlonen zijn naar prestaties. Daarmee worden de verschillen kleiner en zullen de topteams/investeerders nog steeds de beschikking houden over het beste personeel.

    Ik vind niet dat je een budgetplafond kunt stellen op de volledige begroting, dan kan elk team wel intrede doen met goed personeel aangezien ze net zo veel te bieden hebben als een ander. Op productiewerk kun je dat wel doen, dan kunnen de teams met de beste techneuten zich nog onderscheiden door minder productie nodig te hebben voor het gewenste eindresultaat.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:10
    • ...En door de beste coureurs aan te kunnen trekken

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:10
  • Gestraft worden als je een overwinning behaald, slecht plan. Wordt er straks gestreden om de tweede plek, dat zou raar zijn.

    • + 1
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:10
  • dizzy

    Posts: 1.466

    Lekker bemoedigend voor al die ontwerpers, engineers, constructeurs, monteurs etc. die zich continue uit de naad werken om hun auto zo snel mogelijk te laten zijn wanneer ze gestraft worden omdat ze daarin succesvol zijn geweest.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:23
  • Kan beter samen met Rosberg een barbie winkeltje beginnen....

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:32
    • Waar slaat dat nou op? Soms is spreken zilver en zwijgen goud.

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2017 - 17:13
    • Sjees

      Posts: 1.149

      Heb je het nou tegen Bschuit of Button MrMarly? ;)

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2017 - 20:29
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      @B(arbie)schuit: Ik zou zeggen. Verbeter de wereld en begin bij jezelf.

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 07:38
  • Is een goed plan, maar dan moet je dat voor de top 5 (of iets dergelijks) introduceren.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:39
  • Sun-Tzu

    Posts: 3.385

    Prima plan, direct na de winst op het podium niet alleen maar champagne, maar een grote CFK bucket die de winnaar leeg moet eten. Verder een verbod op afvallen en trainen tot aan de volgende race en de extra kilo's voor de winnaar zijn gegarandeerd! De triatlon fanaat Button zou dat toch heeeeerlijk moeten vinden! Geef deze man even snel de Nobelprijs van het slimste idee van de wereld!! Wat een held!

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 16:50
    • Bottas sleept al heel wat strafgewicht mee...

      • + 2
      • 20 okt 2017 - 16:57
    • johan_sb2

      Posts: 931

      Een bucket Chloorfluorkoolstofverbindingen? Wordt je daar dik van?

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 02:32
  • roybona

    Posts: 97

    Wat een BULLSHIT.. gaan nu al die ex coureurs onzin uitkramen of hoe zit dat ??

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 17:53
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Alleen Verstappen fanboys zouden daartoe gerechtigd mogen zijn. Maar mensen met verstand van de sport? Waarom zouden die er iets over moeten zeggen inderdaad, heel raar.

      • + 0
      • 21 okt 2017 - 07:41
  • Race winnaar verplicht bigmac menu eten drie durum dòners eten en 3 liter cola

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 18:32
  • Kenju

    Posts: 2.629

    F1 moet voor een flink deel draaien om de prestaties die de teams leveren in het bouwen van een goede auto. Die prestaties zou je beperken. Lijk me redelijke onzin dus. Verder is het ook zo dat op bepaalde circuits bepaalde auto’s niet gaan. De Mercs zouden de afgelopen races een aardig probleem hebben gehad. Geen performance, plus het nodige aan strafgewicht.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 18:46
  • DRS is niet goed maar dat is geen reden om prestatiestraffen goed te praten. Ben het vaak eens met deze aimabele Brit maar nu even niet. Liever verdiende dominantie dan kunstmatige spanning.

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 20:37
  • Ik dus

    Posts: 950

    Nou...dan heb ik ook wel een idee om het allemaal wat spannender te maken...

    Op volgorde van de finish binnenkomst in omgekeerde volgorde starten bij de volgende wedstrijd ?
    Ham dus gewoon helemaal op de laatste plaats als hij een race wint en de laatste als eerste op de startgrid bij de volgende wedstrijd....

    Krijgen we in ieder geval al veel meer inhaal acties , zelfs als er zoals de laatste jaren een merk continu oppermachtig is....

    • + 0
    • 20 okt 2017 - 20:44
  • Frank-84

    Posts: 666

    Jenson kan beter triathlon's gaan doen..

    • + 0
    • 21 okt 2017 - 10:39

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