Ecclestone: "Budgetlimiet gedoemd om te mislukken"

  • Gepubliceerd op 08 nov 2017 14:27
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Formule 1-eigenaar Liberty Media informeerde de leden van de Strategy Group gisteren over de voornemens met betrekking tot de commerciële invulling van de toekomst van de sport. Daar is nog niets over naar buiten gesijpeld, maar het mediabedrijf leek aan te sturen op de invoering van een budgetplafond. Liberty zou in 2019 al willen een proef met een budgetlimiet willen houden.

Begin er nou niet aan, luidt het advies van Bernie Ecclestone aan de eigenaren van de Formule 1. "De meeste teams in de achterhoede zullen echt niet opeens beter presteren als er een budgetlimiet van kracht zou zijn. Mercedes, Ferrari en Red Bull Racing vinden altijd wel manieren om geld uit te geven en de beste te zijn, budgetplafond of niet. Het maakt geen verschil en is gedoemd te mislukken. Ik geloof nooit dat dit de realiteit wordt", liet hij aan Reuters weten.

Ecclestone waarschuwde Liberty eerder al om de dreigementen van Ferrari over een vertrek uit de Formule 1 serieus te nemen. Nu voegt hij eraan toe: "Het verschil is dat Sergio Marchionne voorheen niet de scepter zwaaide bij Ferrari en nu wel. Als hij besluit om de Scuderia uit de Formule 1 weg te halen, dan doet hij het ook echt. De wereld is enorm aan het veranderen. Dingen waarvan je eerder nog zou zeggen dat die nooit zouden gebeuren, kunnen plotseling toch gebeuren."

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  • F0.99

    Posts: 70

    Als Bernie er niks in ziet moet het wel een heel goed idee zijn!

    • + 1
    • 8 nov 2017 - 14:33
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Bernies realiteit is dat het startveld van 26 auto's is terug gegaan naar een bungelende 20, ofwel 23% minder. Met alle gevolgen van dien voor het aantal duels op de baan en de aanwas en doorstroming van nieuw talent.
      Als er 1 iemand F1 kapot heeft gemaakt is het Ecclestone wel.

      • + 2
      • 8 nov 2017 - 16:53
    • Kan iemand die oude seniele opa eens zn bek laten houden...hij heeft de toko voor een mega bedrag verkocht en mag in zn handen wrijven en het is ontzettend zielig nu nog steeds je mening te willen geven over zaken waar de nieuwe kopers nu verantwoordelijk voor zijn!

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 20:35
    • @Raket beest

      Het is zielig om je mening te geven over het bedrijf waar je ongeveer 50 jaar in gewerkt hebt? Het merendeel van deze periode zelfs de scepter zwaaide? Waar je het bedrijf de grootste autosport klasse in de wereld van hebt kunnen maken?

      Als we zo redeneren, mag jij niet eens op een forum je mening gaan zitten verkondigen.

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 23:20
    • Raketbeest doe normaal joh als je niks zinnigs te zeggen heb zeg dan niks. Nog beter kom helemaal niet meer terug hier.

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 23:48
  • Hij heeft helemaal gelijk

    • + 1
    • 8 nov 2017 - 14:34
  • Budgetlimiet lijkt me ook zeer moeilijk controleerbaar, maar is zo'n limiet nog wel noodzakelijk bij betere verdeling van inkomsten / bonussen e.d.

    • + 3
    • 8 nov 2017 - 14:39
  • Fibonacci

    Posts: 760

    Bernie's expiratiedatum is bereikt. In zoverre is de wereld wel veranderd. Hij heeft gelijk.

    • + 1
    • 8 nov 2017 - 14:41
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      "De wereld is enorm aan het veranderen. Dingen waarvan je eerder nog zou zeggen dat die nooit zouden gebeuren, kunnen plotseling toch gebeuren."

      Hij is inderdaad bij de pinken, het is Bernie's speeltuin niet meer, en nu het Bernie's speeltuin niet meer is, zou het best kunnen dat Liberty Media de speeltuin die F1 heet met een andere visie benaderd, en dan zouden er zomaar dingen plotseling toch gebeuren.

      Misschien met Bernie Ferrari ook even adviseren dat de wereld veranderd is, en dat poker spelen en bluffen met een exit door Liberty Media wel eens met 'bluf' beantwoord zou kunnen worden.

      • + 1
      • 8 nov 2017 - 17:16
  • Ecclestone: “Budgetlimiet gedoemd om te mislukken.”

    Nou je hoort het,
    stop er maar mee,
    het bewijs is geleverd...

    • + 3
    • 8 nov 2017 - 14:41
  • @Jean Alesi

    Je kan ook beide doen, budget limiet en eerlijkere verdeling van inkomsten.

    Dat budget limiet is ook moeilijk controleerbaar maar stel dat de limiet op
    100Mil komt te liggen dan zie ik niet dat een team daar nog even 100Mil bij
    smokkelt en dus 200Mil uitgeeft. Dat wordt denk ik echt wel gezien.

    • + 2
    • 8 nov 2017 - 15:57
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @REVDUTCHIE

      Budgetcap is gewoon moeilijk te controleren, werkzaamheden door een toeleverancier (al dan niet als schaduwbedrijf van het team) tegen "aangepaste" tarieven zou van de accountant een gedegen kennis van de materie vereisen.

      Ik zou vol willen inzetten op een betere en eerlijkere verdeling van de premiepot, afscheid nemen van historische of contractuele voordelen - gewoon afrekenen op de resultaten van het voorgaande jaar (en misschien het jaar ervoor) is rechtvaardiger en zal zeker ook de kleinere teams te goede komen.

      • + 1
      • 8 nov 2017 - 16:54
    • @KoBus

      Volgens mij zei ik precies hetzelfde en ben het ook met je eens. Maar ik blijf van mening dat je gewoon op beide kan inzetten. Ohh en ook die Veto rechten van tafel halen.

      • + 1
      • 8 nov 2017 - 17:21
  • Is het niet in Amerika zo dat er een X bedrag uitgegeven mag worden en alles wat daarboven is een soort belasting over wordt geheft, wat over de teams die onder bedrag X blijven wordt onderverdeeld.
    Misschien een constructie die ook bij de F1 kan werken.

    • + 0
    • 8 nov 2017 - 16:28
  • “Schat, schat, wat is er morgen aan de beurt om af te kraken? De motorformule of de verdeling van de bonussen?”

    “Uhuhhh... geen van beide mijn lief tuinkaboutertje, morgen is het donderdag dan is altijd het geluid aan de beurt hè.
    Dat weet je toch. En dan is het vrijdag en zaterdag weer naar keuze: eerst de motorformule en daarna de verdeling van de bonussen, of andersom.
    Gutteguttegut, schrijf het anders effe op. Tsssss.”

    “Oh... okay. Weet jij waar m’n pen is? ’k Heb bij Liberty zo’n peperdure gejat en Snorremans had niks door, whahaha.”

    • + 0
    • 8 nov 2017 - 16:35
    • Pas maar op @LP, er zijn forummers die je nog gaan aanklagen voor pendiefstal. Volgens mij was je hem "gewoon"vergeten terug te geven toch? ;)

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 17:07
    • Je mag me best met Bernie verwisselen @Schwantz, op voorwaarde dat ik dan ook zijn miljardjes krijg. ;)

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 17:49
  • Het maakt uiteraard wel verschil. Er zal waarschijnlijk wel een bepaalde hiërarchie blijven maar als dit alles wat dichter bij elkaar haalt heb je al gewonnen. Als er dan ook nog teams bijkomen omdat het duidelijk is wat er te investeren valt is het top.

    Ik denk alleen dat ze met $100 milj. te laag willen maar dat zal wel onderhandelingsruimte zijn.

    • + 0
    • 8 nov 2017 - 16:39
  • He, Eikelsteen als je er niets in zit ,waar bemoei je je eigen dan mee? Ga naar Maranello,kan je Ferrari slopen, heb jij tenslotte ook "grootgemaakt".

    • + 0
    • 8 nov 2017 - 18:47
  • dizzy

    Posts: 1.466

    Bernie heeft de toko verkocht en moet nu niet zijn opvolgers in de wielen gaan rijden. De man moet nu eindelijk eens gaan beseffen dat zijn era voorbij is en geraniums gaan kweken.

    • + 0
    • 8 nov 2017 - 21:44
    • ''De man'' mag niet zijn mening geven? En waarom dan wel niet? Wat is er gebeurd met de freedom of speech ?

      • + 0
      • 8 nov 2017 - 23:22
  • wibi

    Posts: 4.519

    Waar bemoeit Ekkel zich nu weer mee?

    • + 0
    • 9 nov 2017 - 10:43

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