Hamilton: "Drie motoren per seizoen waardeloos"

  • Gepubliceerd op 13 nov 2017 14:08
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De ontwikkeling dat Formule 1-coureurs vanaf 2018 nog maar drie motoren per seizoen mogen verbruiken is een doorn in het oog van wereldkampioen Lewis Hamilton. De Mercedes-coureur is bang dat de nieuwe beperking tot gevolg heeft dat rijders tijdens races minder kunnen pushen. "Ik vind het idee van drie motoren per seizoen maar niks, het is waardeloos. It sucks. Sprinten is juist wat er ontbreekt in de Formule 1."

De Brit heeft wel meer aan te merken op de reglementen voor volgend jaar. Zo gaat het gewicht van de bolides voor 2018 opnieuw omhoog. Hamilton: "Het zal volgend jaar net zijn alsof we met bussen rijden. De wagens worden zo zwaar, net NASCAR-bolides. Dat vergroot de afstand die nodig is om te remmen, terwijl de remmen nu al op het randje zijn en continu in brand staan. Het klinkt misschien negatief, maar als rijder wil je snelle en wendbare auto's waarmee we elk rondje aan kunnen vallen."

"Jammer genoeg heb je dat over het algemeen niet. In Brazilië had ik een wagen waarmee ik aan kon vallen, maar ik moest ook van ver komen. Als je naar de voorhoede kijkt, de coureurs vooraan waren vooral aan het managen en dat is wat we normaal gesproken doen. Dat is niet opwindend voor de fans, de kijkers. In de meest opwindende races, zoals in de regen, laten we alle beperkingen varen. Ik weet dan ook niet of het verder limiteren van het aantal motoren een stap in de juiste richting is."

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  • Tja....geef het circus maar over aan Amerikanen en ze verklooien het! Ik geef je 100% gelijk Lewis!

    • + 1
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:13
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Want gelukkig was het al niet verkloot voordat Liberty het overnam....

      • + 18
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:14
    • Cicero

      Posts: 1.281

      Onzin Ferrari, dit is uit de koker van de Ferrari organisatie fia

      • + 4
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:16
    • Lul niet zo raar!!!! Die beslissing was al genomen voordat Liberty een stap in de paddock gemaakt had. Als iemand hier niet achter zit is dat de FIA en een team dat een veto heeft, heeft er voor gezorgd dat deze regel niet aangepast wordt...

      • + 7
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:24
    • aap

      Posts: 1.366

      al die grid straffen straks ..mien god dat is ja kut ja.... echt waardeloos

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:26
    • Als alle teams besluiten er 5 te gebruiken en dan zoveel mogelijk tijdens dezelfde races de penalties nemen is het ook opgelost.

      • + 1
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:34
    • Roy

      Posts: 2.172

      Ferrarirules ; geloof je het zelf? tijdens dezelfde races de penaltys incasseren?

      dat "heren akkoord" van Toto Wolf ken ik zo onderhand wel.....

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:36
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      Mijn verbazing was eerder dit jaar groot toen alle teams in de Strategy Group hun fiat hebben afgegeven voor het gebruik van slechts 3 motoren volgend jaar.

      Why?

      • + 1
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:55
    • aap

      Posts: 1.366

      d@nny heb gelijhijk

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:09
    • aap

      Posts: 1.366

      na de zomerstop in 2018 wordt het afzien

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:10
    • Reutel

      Posts: 695

      De penalty's zorgen er voor dat de rijders van de drie grote teams een mooie inhaalrace kunnen rijden, dat maakt het leuk om naar te kijken. Zonder de penalty's zijn de races saaie optochten.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 16:24
    • Was maar een voorbeeld Roy.
      De teams verzinnen er dan wel iets op. Daar is het F1 voor.

      • + 0
      • 14 nov 2017 - 00:10
  • Het kan we (liever niet natuurlijk) maar dat moet het systeem van de gridstraffen op de schop. Het straf-systeem moet sowieso veranderd worden.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:15
    • wel*

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:15
    • Cicero

      Posts: 1.281

      Toch was het wel leuk dat ricciardo en hamilton van achteren moesten komen. Anders was het behoorlijk saai geweest afgelopen race.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:33
    • Smurfmark

      Posts: 93

      @cicero wanneer iedereen vol had kunnen puschen was t ook stuk leuker geweest.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 16:09
  • d@nny

    Posts: 3.226

    Teams moeten hier in opstand komen. Allemaal afspreken om elk race weekend allemaal een nieuwe powerunit in te zetten. Krijgt iedereen elke GP penalties en hebben de penalties geen invloed meer.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:16
    • Is niet te doen voor de kleinere teams, die hebben daar het geld niet voor

      • + 1
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:24
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Dus moet je als 10 teams solidair zijn en moeten alle motorleveranciers meer motoren leveren en er samen voor opdraaien. Zal niet gebeuren hoor, dat weet ik ook wel, maar het zou mooi zijn als er een keer zo'n opstandje tegen de FIA zo komen. 3 motoren per jaar is een lachertje, bijna net zo erg als die HALO die eraan komt.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:30
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      In opstand komen? De teams binnen de stategy group hebben dit jaar unaniem hun fiat afgegeven voor slechts 3 motoren voor volgend jaar.

      Waarom is me echt een raadsel....

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:57
  • helemaal eens met Lewis, die besparende maatregelen maken de f1 kapot. Mijn hoop is gevestigd op de nieuwe krachtbronnen, hopelijk eenvoudiger en goedkoper zodat dit soort grepen weer tot het verleden behoren en de coureurs volle bak kunnen pushen.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:16
    • Een compleet nieuwe krachtbron ontwikkelen is echt niet goedkoper.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:23
    • @F193 Natuurlijk kost het ontwikkelen van een nieuwe krachtbron heel veel geld. Maar binnen afzienbare termijn verdiend een eenvoudiger en goedkoper motorconcept zich echt makkelijk weer terug. De huidige motorformule is veels te duur en ingewikkeld gebleken als je kijkt naar de enorme problemen (al 3 jaar!) bij Honda en Renault. Ook de gridstraffen die hier uit voortkomen zijn echt niet meer te overzien voor de teams, coureurs en fans, en hebben een veels te grote invloed op het kampioenschap. Als er volgend jaar maar 3 motoren mogen worden gebruikt, dan is de ramp niet meer te overzien en zal er een storm van kritiek losbarsten imo.

      • + 1
      • 13 nov 2017 - 14:51
    • @scwantz34 die problemen die jij opnoemt zijn eenvoudig op te lossen door de regels te veranderen voor het aantal motoren dat gebruikt mag worden.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:08
    • Het gaat erom dat de F1, goedkoper, sneller en luider moet worden in de toekomst, en dat dat met de huidige formule kansloos is.

      • + 1
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:18
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      Fabrikanten draaien hun hand niet om voor het ontwikkelen van een nieuwe motor, het is een drogredenering die moet verhullen dat de huidige leveranciers geen nieuwe toetreders willen hebben. Honda is het mooiste voorbeeld van hoe de huidige fabrikanten het graag zien, en vooral graag zo willen houden.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 15:27
  • Ach ieder jaar heeft men vanalles aan te merken. Ik ben ook geen fan van al die gridstraffen voor een motor- of versnellingsbak wissel, maar het zal snel weer gewend zijn. In het verleden hebben we gezeur gehad over vanalles. Van de motoren tot de banden, wel of niet tanken, etc.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:17
  • Volgens mij zijn de ontwikkelingskosten voor 3 extreem betrouwbare, snelle motoren, turbo's versnellingsbakken en elektrische rommel veel hoger, dan de kosten van bijv. 6 motoren per seizoen. Ook is dat veel beter voor de fans, want die willen de coureurs zien rijden op de baan en niet zien hangen in de pitbox om hun materiaal te sparen!

    • + 1
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:21
  • sprinklers.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 14:57
  • Is ook waardeloos, maar teams gaan dat incalculeren en zullen een straf op de koop toe nemen.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 15:17
  • "Dat vergroot de afstand die nodig is om te remmen, terwijl de remmen nu al op het randje zijn en continu in brand staan."

    Een grotere afstand qua remmen bevordert het aantal inhaalacties. Daarnaast heeft een langere remweg weinig te maken met Lewis zijn argument. Een langere remweg zal voor andere type remmen zorgen die het ook nog maar net aankunnen. Alles is gemaakt op het randje in de F1.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 16:13
  • Op de FIA site stond het volgende over #44.
    A 5th Internal Combustion Engine (ICE), 5th Turbo Charger (TC) and 5th Motor Generator Unit Heat (MGU-H) have been used.
    The Power Unit Elements were changed to those of a different specification whilst the car was under Parc Fermé conditions.
    In addition the Gearbox has been changed.

    Betekent "a different specification" hier nu dat het om een
    verbeterde/ ander type motor gaat dan nr 4? Iemand enig idee?

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 16:33
    • pagani

      Posts: 456

      Jup deze motor unit is anders dan de vierde unit en leverd 15 pk meer ze noemen hem 3.1

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 17:09
    • Bedankt @Pagani.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 21:20
    • pagani

      Posts: 456

      Graag gedaan kan??

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2017 - 22:23
  • Deze nieuwe regel gaat de teams van Mercedes,Ferrari en hun klantenteams enorm in de kaart spelen, dus na 1 kwart van het seizoen gaan de teams van Renault en Honda naar de back of te grid worden verbannen
    Dit betekent dus rechtstreeks dat RB ook volgend jaar GEEN kampioen gaat worden en dat vooral zeker ook teams als FI en Williams flink kunnen gaan scoren want die hoeven immers nooit geen straf te incasseren (zie ook al dit jaar)

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 19:07
  • Mcxxxxx

    Posts: 62

    Liberty Media gaat de F1 volledig slopen.

    Als er iets met de motor is moet het vervangen worden. Klaar. Dat is racen. Weg met al die groene, nep-besparende idioterie.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 20:02
  • Mcxxxxx

    Posts: 62

    Het gaat er in de F1 toch om wat je kunt presteren?
    Toch niet om hoeveel je wel kunt besparen en hoeveel je jezelf in kunt houden.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 20:05
  • Ik snap überhaupt niet hoe ze er op komen om drie motoren per jaar te gebruiken. Dit jaar heeft toch wel uitgewezen dat dit niet te doen is?

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2017 - 20:12

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