Ook Ecclestone bezorgd over motorgeluid vanaf 2013

  • Gepubliceerd op 05 jan 2011 20:59
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  • Door: Robin Smeets
Naast Niki Lauda maakt ook Bernie Ecclestone zich zorgen over het geluid wat de nieuwe vier cylindermotoren zullen produceren. Deze motoren zullen vanaf 2013 worden geïntroduceerd in de Formule 1. Volgens Ecclestone is de Formule 1 grotendeels zo uniek om het geluid.

"Het maakt me niks uit of we met 1.6 liter of 1.8 liter motoren rijden, ik maak me alleen zorgen over het geluid", vertelde Ecclestone. "Als het unieke geluid van de Formule 1 gaat verdwijnen, verliezen we een belangrijk deel van de sport."

FIA-president Jean Todt is er echter van overtuigd dat de auto's er in 2013 goed uit zullen zien en dat de motoren een geweldig geluid gaan produceren.

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  • Afwachten maar..

    • + 0
    • 5 jan 2011 - 21:30
    • okkie

      Posts: 302

      Wat ik al eerder zei, koptelefoon op, bandje aan met 12 cil motorgeluid en genieten van het janken.
      Overigens, de vier cilinders hebben rurbo en dat gefluit moet als muziek in de oren van de jank liefhebbers zijn.

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      • 8 jan 2011 - 12:09

  • Ook voor mij is geluid - naast snelheid en gedurfde (tot de macht controversiële) acties - een essentieel onderdeel van de Formule 1.

    Maar ik vermoed, dat voor wat betreft het kenmerkende type Formule 1 geluid - naast het aantal cilinders en het toerental - ook de uitlaatconstructie een grote rol speelt.

    Dus daar ligt mogelijk nog een marge, om het typische Formule 1 geluid te behouden. Ook het snerpende/suizende fluiten van de turbo heeft overigens de nodige charmes voor de aandachtig toehorende toeschouwer.

    Maakt het terugschroeven van het aantal cilinders (in 2013) tot vier - plus een standaard voorgeschreven, gemaximeerde turbo-afstelling - niet deel uit van de poging van de FIA, om ook niet-sportwagen fabrikanten voor de Formule 1 te interesseren, omdat mogelijk een deel van de ontwikkelingskosten voor de Formule 1 motor, met de viercilinder specificatie makkelijker zou kunnen worden terugverdiend met de ontwikkeling van motoren voor de modale lopende band fabrieksmodellen.

    Daarnaast zou technische spin off in zijn algemeenheid (wordt mijns inziens als argument, vaak te pas en te onpas gebruikt, om hoge ontwikkelingskosten in de autotopsport te rechtvaardigen), sowieso een aantrekkelijke factor kunnen vormen voor potentiële fabriekteams..

    Tot slot benieuwd naar welke motorenfabrikant McLaren zal uitwijken, als het contract met Mercedes binnenkort is afgelopen.

    • + 0
    • 5 jan 2011 - 22:14
  • F1McLaren

    Posts: 631

    Jaa, gelukkig heeft Bernie veel invloed in F1..

    • + 0
    • 5 jan 2011 - 22:16
  • mooi zo, dit verdwijnt dus niet

    • + 0
    • 5 jan 2011 - 22:25
  • In de WW??? lijkt wel een sollicitatie voor F1today jammer dat je er weinig zinnigs van maakt in zo een mooi Nederlands vervaardigd verhaal. Het is allemaal te doen om het toerental die komt sowieso lager te liggen met een turbo motor dus ook het geluid en dat los je niet op met een uitlaat, daar doe je niksss aan. Daarentegen denk ik zelf dat het meer een supercompressor geluidje word omdat een F1 turbo op lijkt mij op toeren blijft... Absoluut een ander geluid wat we gaan krijgen als het maar zo\'n banale sound is als nu zullen de fans niet klagen. Herriner me stap van v10 naar v8 dat was al een enorme verandering in sound ook niet direct geliefd door het publiek destijds...

    • + 0
    • 6 jan 2011 - 08:35
    • @Mr.Assange

      1. \"Mr.Assange\" : Een over-pretentieuze naam, die in jouw geval beduidend meer suggereert, dan realiseert, want ik tref in jouw bijdrage geen enkele onthulling van zwaarwichtige geclassificeerde informatie aan.

      Dus lijk je met die naam domweg te willen meeliften op de naamsbekendheid van iemand, die inmiddels WEL zijn sporen op het onderzoek- c.q. onthullingjournalistieke terrein heeft verdiend : Beetje goedkoop en ook wel onthullend zou ik menen, maar dan vooral, voor wat betreft jouw eigen persoonlijkheid (of meer precies geformuleerd, het klaarblijkelijke gebrek daaraan).

      2. Over de door jou vertoonde schrijfkunsten laat ik mij in dit kader niet uit, want die doen hoegenaamd niet ter zake op een forum als dit.

      Maar het is - nebenbei - in ons Nederlandse taalgebied, schijftechnisch bezien, wel te doen gebruikelijk, om een spatie te plaatsen tussen \"Mr.\" en \"Assange\" (Tip : Gebruik daarvoor gewoon de spatiebalk onderop, links van het midden op jouw toetsenbord).

      3. Over jouw leesvaardigheid kunnen wij hier echter zonder meer stellen, dat die in dezen, minimaal aan ernstige gebreken onderhevig is : Daar, waar ik mijn voorzichtige technische suggesties terzake, zorgvuldig begeleidt met termen als \"vermoed\" en \"mogelijk\", wil jij de forumleden bijvoorbeeld (ten onrechte) doen laten geloven, dat mijn uitspraken zondermeer de weergave zouden zijn van letterlijke citaten uit de auto-technische vakliteratuur.

      4. Jij suggereert daarmee overigens tegelijkertijd - net als met jouw suggestieve keuze voor de naam van iemand (in casu Julian Assange) met een bovengemiddeld grote ICT kennis en dito vaardigheden - dat jij zelf wel over extreem hoogstaande technische bekwaamheden en inzichten zou beschikken.

      Maar de praktijk toont ons in alle ontluistering, haarfijn aan, dat je zelfs niet eens in staat blijkt, tot het uitoefenen van de zeer simpele basishandeling, om op dit forum, jouw reactie, direct aan mijn bijdrage te koppelen. (Tip : Gebruik de citeerknop. Dat wil zeggen, als je je natuurlijk al geroepen zoudt moeten voelen, om te reageren op andermans bijdragen).

      5. Daarnaast behoort het tot de reguliere net-etiquette, om - ook al zou je de citeerknop gebruiken - in alle gevallen, waarbij je op een mede-reacteur reageert, die persoon in de aanhef aan te spreken met de door hem of haar gebruikte naam, voorafgegaan met het @-teken.

      Tip : Je vindt dit teken op de derde toets van de tweede toetsen-rij van boven, op je reguliere qwerty toetsenbord. Druk wel tegelijkertijd met deze @-toets, de shift-toets in (dat is de eerste toets links en de laatste toets rechts van de vijfde toetsenrij op de hoofdunit van het eerder vermelde toetsenbord), anders belanden wij alsnog in een doolhof van onontwarbare noodlottige misverstanden.

      6. Over jouw gevoel voor humor tot slot, kan ik zeer kort zijn : Mocht je daar überhaupt al mee begiftigd zijn, dan hou je dat hier in ieder geval extreem goed voor ons verborgen...

      • + 0
      • 6 jan 2011 - 14:23
    • Erratum :

      3. Over jouw leesvaardigheid kunnen wij hier echter zonder meer stellen, dat die in dezen, minimaal aan ernstige gebreken onderhevig is : Daar, waar ik mijn voorzichtige technische suggesties terzake, zorgvuldig begeleidt (moet zijn begeleid) met termen als \"vermoed\" en \"mogelijk\", wil jij de forumleden bijvoorbeeld (ten onrechte) doen laten geloven, dat mijn uitspraken zondermeer de weergave zouden zijn van letterlijke citaten uit de auto-technische vakliteratuur.

      • + 0
      • 6 jan 2011 - 14:43
    • winti

      Posts: 1.632

      Geachte heer/mevrouw Flip,

      Ik ben zeer benieuwd waar uw schrijfkunsten vandaan komen, aangezien deze inderdaad niet erg aan een forum als dit besteed zijn. Wel grappig om een begenadigd schrijver op een forum als dit tegen te komen overigens.

      On topic: Ook ik ben een fervent en enthousiast voorstander van het motorgeluid in de F1. Ik bezit zelfs enkele cd\'s met F1 geluiden. Echter de hele discussie lijkt mij, zoals ik al eerder gemeld heb, vrij zinloos omdat ik denk dat er over niet al te lange tijd, in navolging van de straatauto\'s, helemaal geen motorgeluid meer te horen zal zijn in de F1. De toekomst is namelijk elektrisch en ik ben er niet voor om het geluid kunstmatig in stand te houden..

      • + 0
      • 6 jan 2011 - 23:50
  • felix50

    Posts: 5.792

    als je terug gaat in de tijd en je hoort de wgen met de 4 cil moe6 ik aan de motoraces denken .Vooral aan de kleine motoren zoals de 125cc die makten het zelfde geluid .F1 onwaardig.

    • + 0
    • 6 jan 2011 - 10:31
  • Vette-L

    Posts: 265

    Mischien niet helemaal een goed voorbeeld maar ik denk dat het er niet ver af zal zitten.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJm1_Q-zSII&;amp;feature=related

    • + 0
    • 6 jan 2011 - 11:35

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