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Onderzoek moet uitwijzen of MGU-H van Gasly nog inzetbaar is

  • Gepubliceerd op 29 maa 2018 13:22
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Scuderia Toro Rosso-partner Honda onderzoekt dezer dagen het probleem dat in de Australische Grand Prix opspeelde bij de MGU-H in de auto van Pierre Gasly. De Japanse autofabrikant kan nog niet zeggen of het energie hergebruikende systeem nog inzetbaar is. Het zou voor Gasly zuur zijn als hij al na één raceweekend een van de drie toegestane exemplaren MGU-H voor dit seizoen kwijt is.

Toyoharu Tanabe, technisch directeur Formule 1 bij Honda, verklaarde aan RACER: "We zagen in de telemetrie ongebruikelijke data met betrekking tot de MGU-H. Dus we hebben Toro Rosso en Pierre de opdracht gegeven om de auto stil te zetten en we onderzoeken momenteel de data en het onderdeel zelf. We denken na over wat we kunnen doen voor de volgende race."

"We zijn er niet zeker van dat het onderdeel zelf zwaar beschadigd is. Onderzoek in de fabriek in Sakura moet uitwijzen of we deze MGU-H nog kunnen gebruiken."

Het probleem kwam voor Honda als een donderslag bij heldere hemel. "Tijdens de wintertests zijn we op geen enkel probleem gestuit met dit onderdeel, dit was de eerste keer", vervolgt Tanabe. "In de voorbereiding hebben we de levensduur van drie motorblokken geëvalueerd. Dat ging niet perfect, maar wel dusdanig goed dat we geen problemen of ongewone data verwacht hadden bij de eerste Grand Prix."

F1 Nieuws Pierre Gasly Scuderia Toro Rosso Honda

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  • mrjem

    Posts: 271

    zou idd erg zuur zijn en koren op de molen voor McLaren en hun aanhangers ( ook hier op het forum)

    • + 3
    • 29 maa 2018 - 13:41
    • first place

      Posts: 346

      @MRJEM, wat een onzin reactie (weet het, ieder zijn mening...). Ik ben McLaren fan maar gun Toro Rosso en Honda niets dan goeds. En waarom zou McLaren hier nu nog belang bij hebben. McLaren heeft een keuze gemaakt obv 3 jaren zonder noemenswaardige progressie. Ze moesten wat veranderen en dat is gebeurd, de toekomst zal uitwijzen wat de juiste keuze was. Ze rijden nu met Renault en Honda is het verleden voor hun.

      • + 3
      • 29 maa 2018 - 13:58
    • mUtt3n

      Posts: 467

      Wat voor volk werkt daar bij Honda? Ik snap dat echt niet....na 4 jaar nog altijd zo'n fratsen?

      • + 3
      • 29 maa 2018 - 14:10
    • alonso fan

      Posts: 10.412

      Denk dat er meer waren die schreeuwden dat ze hoopten dat Honda het wel even gingen doen...

      • + 4
      • 29 maa 2018 - 14:20
    • Pietje2013

      Posts: 8.974

      Hoezo koren op de molen van McLaren en haar aanhangers? Eerder pas op de plaats voor de McLaren bashers hier.

      • + 1
      • 29 maa 2018 - 14:23
    • Kenju

      Posts: 2.629

      @Mutt3n: Ze hadden sowieso een jaar achterstand omdat ze later binnen kwamen, en naar het schijnt was zelfs dat jaar niet de bedoeling om binnen te komen, aanvankelijk. Verder dat zero-size verhaal waar ze pas twee jaar later van konden overstappen wegens de token-regels waardoor ze vorig jaar dus met een heel nieuwe motor reden en de data van de twee jaar daarvoor grotendeels konden wegflikkeren.

      Ik ze ze onder regeltechnisch ingrijpen ook niet meer gelijk trekken. Extra teams zal niet gebeuren, dus hooguit vrij testen? Dus dat Honda een paar Toro Rosso's naar Suzuka brengt en op alle vrije dagen over het circuit jaagt? Kunnen ze ook meteen een Japanse coureur klaarstomen.

      Ik denk dat dit voor Honda pr technisch wel van waarde zou zijn, en ik denk niet dat Hartley het gaat redden. Alle noemenswaardige talenten liggen sowieso vast.

      • + 0
      • 29 maa 2018 - 14:30
    • Kenju

      Posts: 2.629

      Begin moet zijn 'ik zie ze zonder regeltechnisch'. Top, de edit-functies hier... 2018 is het, en de opzet had zomaar uit de jaren '90 kunnen zijn. Maar vooral je op de borst slaan over die 15 jaar. 15 jaar zonder innovatie en doorontwikkeling van de gebruikervaring alhier.

      • + 0
      • 29 maa 2018 - 14:34
  • Kenju

    Posts: 2.629

    Zou het een slechte strategie zijn wanneer Honda dit jaar gewoon gebruikt als test? Dus gewoon alle nieuwe zaken in de auto gooien en inderdaad standaard achteraan starten?

    We zijn maar net begonnen, maar het ook vanuit de F1-organisatie duidelijk dat er wat fouten gemaakt zijn die eigenlijk vorig jaar al aangepakt hadden moeten worden. Klantenchassis' toestaan zodat het makkelijker is om meer teams te hebben (en dus meer motoren waar data uit gekregen kan worden wat vooral voor Honda belangrijk is; de andere drie hebben drie teams, Honda slechts één) is er m.i. een van die ook op de agenda mag.

    • + 0
    • 29 maa 2018 - 14:25
    • hondamp4/4

      Posts: 1.542

      Elke keer achteraan starten is helemaal niet zinvol omdat je simpelweg niet om de twee weken een update klaar kan hebben. Zodra er significante update is geloof ik wel dat ze niet zullen schromen deze in te zetten.

      • + 0
      • 29 maa 2018 - 15:32
  • F1-06

    Posts: 617

    Top, op tijd gestopt. Nu is de MGU-H nog goed te bestuderen en is er waarschijnlijk niks verloren gegaan wat nog onderzocht zou kunnen worden om dit issue in de toekomst te voorkomen.

    • + 1
    • 29 maa 2018 - 15:06
  • mordor

    Posts: 1.829

    bad luck. Zolang deze problemen niet persistent zijn, is er nog weinig aan de hand

    • + 0
    • 29 maa 2018 - 16:28
  • f1 benelux

    Posts: 3.957

    "We zagen in de telemetrie ongebruikelijke data met betrekking tot de MGU-H. Dus we hebben Toro Rosso en Pierre de opdracht gegeven om de auto stil te zetten" .... What???
    Gewoon naar de beelden kijken jongens --> Rookpluim!!! plof!! ___ 't Is NOG erger gesteld met Honda dan ik dacht...

    • + 2
    • 29 maa 2018 - 17:05
    • Zambiorix

      Posts: 1.296

      Idd, ik zat er ook naar te kijken. De rookpluimen waren wel duidelijk te zien. Of net dat moet het effect zijn van het plots uitschakelen van de motor op volle snelheid?

      En het was niet dat de Toro Rosso toen al vaart had geminderd, hij was duidelijk nog aan het racen. Ik kan me moeilijk voorstellen dat je vol op het gas zit, dan een melding over de boordradio krijgt om asap de motor uit te schakelen en dat dan ook doet zonder je voet van het gas te lichten? Lijkt me een onnatuurlijke reactie.

      • + 2
      • 29 maa 2018 - 17:27
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Het is niet eens uitgesloten dat Honda gewoon onderdelen test tijdens de raceweekenden en ondertussen doet voorkomen alsof ze van niks weten.
    Denk dat maar weinig fans en laat staan de FIA het accepteren en waarderen als Honda openlijk zegt dit seizoen niet mee te doen maar de raceweekenden te gebruiken als testweekenden. Iedereen zou er schande van spreken.
    Maar dat ondervang je toch heel simpel door te zeggen wat iedereen wil/verwacht dat je zegt.
    “Goh, ja we zagen wat rare data en stopten maar. We onderzoeken het” case closed.
    Op naar de woestijntest in Bahrein.

    • + 0
    • 29 maa 2018 - 19:24
  • MacGyver

    Posts: 3.550

    Dus er gaat bij Gasly een nieuwe stofzuiger erin met nieuwe updates die zijn ontwikkeld.
    Honda heeft de STR stil laten zetten om nog onderzoek te kunnen doen.
    De race daarop is ook de MGU-H/Turbo van Hartley niet meer ok.
    Gridstraffen zijn geen issue als je toch al achteraan start.
    Je kan penalties pakken en je met je verse geupdate/geupgrade onderdelen achterin zover mogelijk naar vooren rijden.

    Die gaan hoop penalties pakken dit jaar bij ToroRosso.
    Alles om de Renault motor voorbij te streven dit seizoen

    • + 0
    • 30 maa 2018 - 03:31
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      honda krijgt zeker vrijspel van redbull :) alleen jammer als ze een keer goed zijn gekwalificeerd kunnen ze weer naar achter ;)

      • + 0
      • 30 maa 2018 - 07:51
    • MacGyver

      Posts: 3.550

      En doordat ze intrinsiek sneller zijn geworden kunnen ze zich weer terugvechten naar die plek.

      • + 0
      • 30 maa 2018 - 15:02

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