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FIA van plan om complexe MGU-H vanaf 2025 te schrappen

  • Gepubliceerd op 26 mei 2020 11:16
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De internationale autosportbond FIA smeedt plannen om de MGU-H vanaf 2025 in de ban te doen. Het systeem, motor generator unit-heat, gebruikt de hitte die vrijkomt bij de uitlaatgassen en zet die om in nieuwe energie. Volgens de Spaanse verslaggever Alberto Fabrega is het vanaf 2025 echter gedaan met de MGU-H in de Formule 1.

De technologie zou te complex en te duur zijn. Bovendien zorgt de MGU-H voor grotere verschillen op de grid en weerhoudt het nieuwe motorleveranciers ervan om in de Formule 1 te stappen. FIA-president Jean Todt had de MGU-H liever nog eerder geschrapt, maar door de coronacrisis is besloten om daarmee te wachten tot de invoering van de nieuwe motorformule in 2025.

Achter de schermen zijn er meer ontwikkelingen op gebied van reglementen voor de aandrijflijn. RaceFans.net bericht dat de motorleveranciers in 2021, 2022 en 2023 nog maar één nieuwe versie van de motor, turbo en MGU-H tijdens het seizoen mogen introduceren. Voor MGU-K, Energy Store en Control Electronics gelden dan nog strengere regels.

Voor die onderdelen mogen de motorleveranciers één nieuwe specificatie introduceren voor 2021 en één specificatie voor de periode 2022-2023. Verder is het de bedoeling dat de ontwikkeling van de aandrijflijn als geheel bevroren wordt vanaf 2023. Deze beoogde wijzigingen zijn neergelegd bij de teams en de verwachting is dat ze deze week goedgekeurd worden.

F1 Nieuws Jean Todt

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  • Captain H. M. Murdock

    Posts: 911

    Ik vraag me af of dit voldoende is om nieuwe mororfabrikanten wel over de streep te trekken.

    Maar het is in elk geval een stap in de goede richting.

    • + 1
    • 26 mei 2020 - 11:46
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      is voor de nieuwe motor leverancier ook moeilijk om te ontwikkelen is een beetje zot eerlijk gezegd heel die bevriezing

      • + 1
      • 26 mei 2020 - 17:46
    • hoogie35

      Posts: 814

      misschien is het een simpele gedachte, maar waarom 5 jaar wachten daarop, ik denk dat de F1 en zeker de fans gebaat zijn bij snellere stappen. Snap dat er misschien een andere motor gebouwd moet worden, maar een motor bouwen kunnen ze wel en het is voor iedereen hetzelfde.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 21:37
  • amigob

    Posts: 398

    > Verder is het de bedoeling dat de ontwikkeling van de aandrijflijn als geheel bevroren wordt vanaf 2023.

    dus daarna is de rang orde vast en kan er ook geen nieuwe leverancier meer intreden doen, of begrijp ik dit verkeerd ?

    • + 1
    • 26 mei 2020 - 12:00
    • Captain H. M. Murdock

      Posts: 911

      Ja, dit begrijp je (deels) verkeerd.

      In principe is de rangorde in 2023 en 2024 dan vastgesteld ja: doch zou nog wel een nieuwe fabrikant in kunnen treden.

      Echter zal geen fabrikant dat doen als per 2025 een nieuwe minder complexe regelgeving gaat gelden. Geen fabrikant zal voor die resterende 2 jaar dan nog een complexe MGU-H ontwikkelen!

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 12:10
    • RBH2019

      Posts: 5.888

      Het is slechts 1 onderdeel van een uiterst complexe motor om nog niet te spreken over het chassis. Het zal wel meevallen. Daarnaast zullen tegen die tijd de motoren als het goed is wel redelijk uitontwikkeld zijn.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 12:30
  • Ouw-sjagerijn

    Posts: 12.878

    Bij de FIA zien ze de bui al hangen en nemen het zekere voor het onzekere..
    Voor sommige teams is het mss al wel te laat, 2025.
    Maar ja, ligt eraan waar ze nu mee op de proppen komen met de nieuwe motorformule..
    Wel 'n kans voor nieuwe teams om in te stappen.

    • + 1
    • 26 mei 2020 - 12:05
  • OrangeArrows

    Posts: 2.892

    Iets bekend over de nieuwe motorformule? Of ook de lange baan geschoven door Corona?

    • + 0
    • 26 mei 2020 - 12:05
    • Captain H. M. Murdock

      Posts: 911

      Lees het artikel eens!

      • + 3
      • 26 mei 2020 - 12:11
    • OrangeArrows

      Posts: 2.892

      Ja, maar niks concreets. Formule 1 kennende stellen ze het uit.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 12:44
    • P. Clemenza

      Posts: 10.323

      ja

      3.5 liter V12

      • + 4
      • 26 mei 2020 - 12:47
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      @Murdock, nou heb ik het artikel gelezen en ik ben niets wijzer van de motorenformule vanaf 2025. Alleen dat de MGU-H geschrapt wordt. Maar hoe de rest van de motorformule eruit ziet??? Die letters H.M. doen je naam eer aan als jij uit bovenstaand artikel de motorenformule vanaf 2025 weet te halen. :-)

      • + 1
      • 26 mei 2020 - 13:04
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Kijkende naar de ontwikkelingen met elektrisch, hybride, waterstof en meer, zou het me niks verbazen als de verbrandingsmotor vanaf 2025 het formaat 1.0 liter heeft met 4 cilindertjes. De rest van het vermogen komt dan uit zo'n fluitend/zoemend elektromotortje die 600pk levert.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 13:06
  • Snork

    Posts: 18.653

    Bevriezen vanaf 2023 betekent dat de dan aanwezige verschillen in performance tussen de diverse motoren dan ook bevroren worden. Is dat wenselijk?

    • + 1
    • 26 mei 2020 - 13:02
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Hopelijk tegen die tijd zijn de verschillen zo klei ndat het niet veel uitmaakt en we zijn dan tenminste dicht bij het einde van deze motorenformule!

      • + 1
      • 26 mei 2020 - 13:11
    • vPutten

      Posts: 1.610

      Ik sta toch werkelijk telkens weer perplex van jou technische inzichten snorkeltje, respect man

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 13:27
    • Ouw-sjagerijn

      Posts: 12.878

      Oh oh.....

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 15:12
    • vPutten

      Posts: 1.610

      Pas op ouwe dat je niet gaat stuiven ;)

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 15:22
    • Ouw-sjagerijn

      Posts: 12.878

      Nou dat je het zegt, als je mij 'n klap op m'n kont geeft komt het stuifsel en het stof uit mijn piemeltje.

      • + 1
      • 26 mei 2020 - 16:46
    • vPutten

      Posts: 1.610

      Ik ken het ouwe we zitten hier ook regelmatig in een flinke stofwolk ;)

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 17:27
    • PallMall

      Posts: 5.872

      We hebben in het verleden ook al periodes gehad waarin de ontwikkeling bevroren was. Als de motoren redelijk gelijkwaardig zijn is dat in principe geen probleem. Fabrikanten kregen wel specifiek toestemming om zaken aan te passen mbt tot betrouwbaarheid of eventuele prestatieverschillen kleiner te maken.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 19:08
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Ik snap de redenatie niet achter de reden om de Corona crisis en het aanhouden van een onderdeel wat men liever eerder wil schrapen.
    We hebben 3 motor leveranciers, welke de corona crisis juist kunnen gebruiken voor de ontwikkeling van een deels nieuwe motor zonder MGU. Ze moeten het naar mijn idee juist andersom zien en de corona crisis in dit geval als voordeel zien. Er kan niet geracet worden, dus steek deze gemiste tijd juist in deze ontwikkelingen van een motor en maak de F1 eerder interessant voor fans van de sport en eventuele motorleveranciers.

    • + 0
    • 26 mei 2020 - 13:31
  • Arie54

    Posts: 4.960

    Hoe zeggen ze dat ook alweer? Too little and too late! En er is geen enkele motorfabrikant te bedenken die gaat instappen. Men heeft er totaal geen belang bij, nu de nadruk wereldwijd op 'elektrisch' ligt.

    • + 0
    • 26 mei 2020 - 15:03
    • HarryLam

      Posts: 3.669

      Elektrisch is een modegrill die weer gaat verdwijnen net als de pop-art. Zodra men er achter is dat de bijdrage aan het milieu alleen maar negatief is.

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 19:56
    • Arie54

      Posts: 4.960

      @HarryLam: Misschien is dat zo, maar voorlopig worden er door de autoindustrie en de politiek miljarden geïnvesteerd in 'elektrisch'. Dus de komende 10-15 jaar gaan ze die investeringen écht niet de nek omdraaien en terug naar....fossiele brandstof?

      • + 0
      • 27 mei 2020 - 13:18
    • HarryLam

      Posts: 3.669

      De consument beslist uiteindelijk.

      • + 0
      • 27 mei 2020 - 15:26
  • James Raven

    Posts: 2.295

    Voor het overleven zullen ze moeten inzetten op zuinigheid. Niet populair hier maar ze zullen langzaam de hoeveelheid brandstof moeten knijpen. Dan wordt het ook weer relevant voor fabrikanten omdat ze ontwikkelingen kunnen toepassen op de straatauto's.

    Misschien verschillende brandstoffen toelaten? En dan dus niet per kg meten maar de energie bepalen. Ze kunnen niet naar elektrisch want dat doet de FE al.

    • + 0
    • 26 mei 2020 - 16:05
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      Als die fossiele brandstoffen maar in de ban doen...:) Maar dan heb je ook weer motor ontwikkeling nodig , maarja als het bevroren is... is gewoon een stap achteruit bevriezen

      • + 0
      • 26 mei 2020 - 17:49
  • DreamsOfPower

    Posts: 963

    F1 R. I. P.

    • + 0
    • 3 jun 2020 - 17:19

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