Nog 'volop discussies' over de nieuwe motorformule voor 2025

  • Gepubliceerd op 11 feb 2021 14:47
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De Formule 1 is er nog lang niet uit welke koers de sport gaat varen bij de invoering van een nieuwe motorformule in 2025. Sportief directeur Ross Brawn heeft eerder reeds verkondigd dat goedkoper, simpeler en luider de drie uitgangspunten voor de krachtbronnen van de toekomst moeten vormen. Er is alleen nog geen consensus over hoe de Formule 1 die doelen kan verwezenlijken.

Dat blijkt uit de woorden van McLaren-baas Zak Brown tegenover het Chinese persbureau Xinhua. "Er vinden nog volop discussies plaats over de nieuwe motorformule voor 2025. Wordt het iets elektrisch? Gaan we verder met hybride-motoren? Kiezen we voor waterstof? Niemand die het weet. Ik vind het in ieder geval prettig dat de Formule 1 niet blind is voor de ontwikkelingen in de wereld. Daarom ben ik ook niet bang dat de sport ooit gedateerd zal raken, de Formule 1 beweegt altijd mee met de tijd."

Voor McLaren verwacht Brown dat 2021 ongeveer hetzelfde zal verlopen als het afgelopen seizoen, waarin de Britse renstal als derde eindigde achter Mercedes en Red Bull Racing. "Het zou kunnen dat we iets dichter in de buurt van Mercedes komen, waar we natuurlijk op hopen, maar we zouden ook zomaar naar de vijfde plek in de pikorde kunnen zakken. Zo dicht staan de teams in de subtop bij elkaar. Het is moeilijk om daar een juiste voorspelling over te doen."

McLaren heeft wel een belangrijke troef in handen: Mercedes-motoren in plaats van Renault-aandrijving. Al is dat ook weer een hele overstap, erkent Brown. "Bij dergelijke substantiële veranderingen loop je het risico op betrouwbaarheidsproblemen of problemen met de installatie. Tel daarbij op de beperkte voorbereidingstijd die we krijgen, slechts drie testdagen, en dat maakt dat we zowel opgewonden als nerveus zijn. Nooit eerder was de voorbereiding zo kort, juist nu we een belangrijke verandering doorvoeren. Het is verre van ideaal, maar ik heb het gevoel dat we dat aankunnen."

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  • F1 kennende wordt dat eindeloos discussiëren met verschillende belangen met als conclusie dat ze het gaan uitstellen.

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:14
  • Wanneer je je besluit alleen zou baseren op de slogan: "Goedkoper, Simpeler, Luider" dan zou ik zeggen: Look no further, ga weer lekker racen met V8's aangepast aan biobrandstof. Maar dat zal wel een te Simpele redenatie van mij zijn, eigenlijk een beetje Goedkoop scoren en kan ik dit beter, denk ik, niet Luid gaan verkondigen ;-)

    • + 4
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:17
    • ik ga lekker mee in die simpele redenatie, weet je wat, als we dan toch bezig zijn, ga lekker met de V12's racen :)

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 15:41
    • Mijn stem heb je!!

      Gooi er gerust 2 turbo´s in (2 uitlaten) en haal die brandstof- en toerenbeperking eraf. 100% biobrandstof en vlammen maar. Wie kan daar wat tegen hebben

      • + 2
      • 11 feb 2021 - 18:58
  • Maximo

    Posts: 8.733

    De F1 moet de ontwikkelingen in de wereld niet volgen, maar juist voorop liggen en de richting bepalen. Op die manier blijven ze intressant voor fabrikanten om heel veel geld te steken in deze competitie.

    100% elektrisch gaat 'm niet worden. Ik zie daar geen toekomst in met die zware en ook vervuilende accu's.
    Energy recovery techiek zie ik niet meer verdwijnen.
    De echte kans ligt in het gebruik van efuels, al lijkt 2025 misschien wat aan de vroege kant. Wellicht beginnen met grijze efeuls en dan doorgroeien naar groene efuels.

    • + 1
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:27
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      Ik heb sterk het vermoeden dat waterstof de toekomst is, zeker omdat Bosch zich daarop richt ipv elektrisch rijden. Ik hoop dan ook dat de F1 de waterstof kant op kiest.

      • + 2
      • 11 feb 2021 - 15:48
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Tegelijkertijd zijn er ook fabrikanten die waterstof min of meer de rug toekeren op dit moment.

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 17:18
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      @snork

      Is
      Toch eigenlijk vreem dat ze dat nu al doen. Oké de kosten zijn in het begin hoog maar mij massa productie schijnt het goedkoper en beter voor het milieu te zijn dan al die accu’s.

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 17:34
    • Ze moeten het gewoon vrijgeven. Je kunt de energiewaarde van elke brandstof wel berekenen en daarop een basisberekening loslaten bepaald dan de motor inhoud en de grootte van de tankinhoud. Ze hebben nu ook afspraken gemaakt over procentuele afwijkingen in vermogen en hoe dat te beperken dus dat is het probleem niet.

      Voor de kosten: daar ook een maximaal budget aan hangen. Dat kan voor de ontwikkeling zijn maar ook simpelweg de fabricatie.

      Hetzelfde voor de overige reglementen. Beperk het tot het minimale, schrap enige flapjes e.d. om aerodynamisch niet de achterliggers te hinderen maar verder mogen ze doen wat ze willen binnen het budget. Alleen als de veiligheid in geding komt wordt er door de F1/FIA ingegrepen.

      Weer terug naar de jaren 70 met al die prachtige vondsten. En dan waterstof, benzine, diesel, gas en nucleair aangedreven auto's door elkaar. Echt F1 weer en relevant vanwege het testen van alternatieven.

      • + 2
      • 11 feb 2021 - 17:43
  • Die motor lijkt wel een doedelzak. Doet me weinig, al die nieuwe foefjes. Geef mij maar een ouderwetse big-block.

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:39
  • Robjen

    Posts: 137

    Lekke rop waterstof rijden maar dan wel verbranden die hap en niet via een brandstofcel...

    • + 1
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:48
  • Volgens Dieter Rencken is men akkoord met de engine freeze. Zojuist op Twitter:

    "Fritz-Dieter Rencken @RacingLines
    Am hearing the @F1 Comm meeting over, (Honda) engine freeze approved
    but further discussions required on final details. "

    • + 2
    • 11 feb 2021 - 15:51
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      Dat zou goed nieuws zijn voor RB en AT

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 15:58
    • @Pietje: als die laatste zin klopt, dan is het blijkbaar toch nog niet helemaal in kannen en kruiken (The devil is in the details)?

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 16:35
    • Alles is in kannen en kruiken @f(1)forum. ;-)

      • + 1
      • 11 feb 2021 - 19:21
    • Ah Pietje Bell. Thx. Dan kan ik nu met een gerust hart gaan slapen ;-)

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 23:06
  • Droopy

    Posts: 632

    Wat de FIA / F1 zou moeten doen is potentiele motor leveranciers (Audi of Porsche of nog een andere motorleverancier) erbij betrekken. Dan kunnen ze in ieder geval mee discussiëren over wat wel en niet mogelijk is. Wellicht dat nieuwkomers ook ideeën daarover hebben.

    Zelf zou ik het wel mooi vinden als ze bij een V6 blijven met een dubbele turbo en energy recovery en verder niet al te veel poespas aan die motor. En uiteraard biobrandstof.

    Daarnaast DRS eraf en als je wilt inhalen gebruik je een lachgasinjectie :-)

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2021 - 16:59
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      Dat is in het pas ook gebeurt, dacht een jaar of drie terug dat ze erbij hebben gezeten en mee hebben gepraat er over.

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 17:35
    • @droopy: het grappige is wel dat we dankzij Audi aan de V6jes vastzitten, en dat het eigenlijk V4 tjes zouden zijn. Bernie had dat met Wolfgang Ulrich besproken. Die was eigenlijk niet van plan om naar de F1 te komen (toen al wist Ullrich dat VW het WK rally ging doen), maar hij testte Bernie door over V4 motoren te beginnen.

      En prompt wist Bernie het zo te spelen dat er V4 motoren in de F1 zouden komen. Maar toen kwam Audi / VW niet, en heeft Bernie flink moeten zeuren om een jaar uitstel en uiteindelijk V6 motoren (die hij ook niet wilde, maar de FIA wilde niet op de oude V8 voet verder).

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2021 - 20:29

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