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'Voor Turkije meer nieuws over nieuwe motoren, goed nieuws voor Porsche en Audi'

  • Gepubliceerd op 29 sep 2021 11:38
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

De nieuwe motorregelementen zijn een veel besproken onderwerp in de Formule 1. De nieuwe regels moeten in 2025 of 2026 ingaan en hebben de verregaande aandacht van Volkswagen-Group merken Audi en Porsche. Nu lijkt er schot in de zaak te zitten en zit er nieuws aan te komen.

Journalist Michael Schmidt van het doorgaans goed ingevoerde Auto, Motor und Sport meldt namelijk dat er voor de Turkse Grand Prix nieuws naar buiten komt. Volgens Schmidt is Formule 1-CEO Stefano Domenicali namelijk vol vertrouwen dat er dan meer bekend wordt gemaakt over de nieuwe motoren en dat deze regels van 2026 gaan gelden.

Geen MGU-H

De huidige motoren mogen vanaf 2022 niet meer aangepast worden en in eerste instantie leek het erop dat ze tot 2024 kun kunstjes zouden laten zien. Nu heeft het er alle schijn van dat ze nog een jaartje door moeten. De nieuwe motoren zouden in ieder geval nog steeds V6-motoren worden maar dan zonder MGU-H, het duurste onderdeel van het plaatje. Volgens het Duitse medium worden er ook meer onderdelen gestandaardiseerd en dat is goed nieuws.

Porsche en Audi

Het is namelijk zo dat dit zou betekenen dat volgens Schmidt in de huidige situatie Porsche en Audi allebei in de sport gaan stappen. Dit zou betekenen dat de Formule 1 in één klap twee nieuwe motorleveranciers rijker is en waarschijnlijk ook 1 of 2 nieuwe teams. Het is namelijk nog niet duidelijk hoe de instap van de merken eruit zal zien, als deze echt komt. 

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  • Joon

    Posts: 44

    Was het niet de MGU-H die eruit ging? De MGU-K is een ordinaire KERS die nou ook weer niet zo heel duur en complex is.

    • + 1
    • 29 sep 2021 - 11:51
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Klopt. Voor zover ik weet verdwijnt MGU-H en komt er een sterkere MGU-K.

      • + 1
      • 29 sep 2021 - 11:53
    • Golf-GTI

      Posts: 1.093

      Wat doet de H nog een keer?

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:04
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Energie (terug)winnen direct van de turbo

      • + 2
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:06
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      De H staat voor Heat

      • + 2
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:08
    • Golf-GTI

      Posts: 1.093

      Ah dank,

      Begrijp het dan nu beter, Met "kers" heb ik al ervaring van de VW GTEs (Golf & Passat). Maar begrijp dat het terug winnen van energie van de turbo te duur is voor de straat autos...

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:15
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Het probleem met het verdwijnen van de MGU-H is dat de overall efficiency van de motoren een stuk lager wordt. Dus zijn ze op zoek naar een aanvullende manier om energie te 'recoveren'. Daar zijn ze, volgens mij, nog niet uit.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:21
    • Golf-GTI

      Posts: 1.093

      Misschien een propellor op de auto?

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 14:38
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Een propeller? Nou ja, misschien een vliegwiel a la het Kers systeem van Williams? 😉. Ze zoeken nog een manier om aan de voorzijde (wielen) van de auto energie op te wekken, zonder dat dit een extra motor wordt (anders krijg je 4 wielaandrijving). Ik heb dus nog geen idee wat dit uiteindelijk gaat worden, maar dat de nadruk na 2025 meer op elektriciteit 'power' dan ook verbrandings 'power' komt te liggen is wel zeker, volgens mij.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 14:49
  • Mag Verslappen

    Posts: 2.647

    En wanneer is die Turkse Grand Prix precies?

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 11:59
    • Mag Verslappen

      Posts: 2.647

      10 oktober dus. Ik zag 'm even niet in de kalender staan

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:01
    • schwantz34

      Posts: 36.095

      Volgend weekend is het weer tüteren geblazen...

      • + 2
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:21
    • Maravillosa

      Posts: 217

      Tüteren maakt mij grote blij.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 17:34
  • nr 76

    Posts: 5.642

    Het is niet de MGU-H die vervalt, dat is gewoon de KERS die we 10 jaar geleden al hadden.
    Het schrappen van de MGU-H, die duur en complex is, was voorwaarde voor VW om deelname te overwegen. Mercedes heeft bij het laatste overleg aangegeven afstand te doen van de wens om de MGU-H aan te houden.

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 12:00
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Precies wat Joon hierboven zegt, dus.
      Je las het hier voor de 2e keer ;)

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:03
    • Golf-GTI

      Posts: 1.093

      Beter 2 keer dan 3 keer!

      Ow wat zeg ik nou?

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:16
  • Joeppp

    Posts: 7.329

    Het zou mooi zijn als er nieuwe merken bijkomen maar het zou mij ook niks verbazen als Renault ermee stopt en RedBull zijn motoren afdeling gaat delen met 1 van de nieuwe merken. Aan het eind van de rit blijft het dan bijna hetzelfde aantal leveranciers.

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 12:01
    • TylaHunter

      Posts: 8.802

      Renault is al redelijk lang een lelijk eendje van de F1. Oke even was Honda nog lelijker, maar ook het beeld van Renault was in diezelfde periode beroerd.

      Renault blijft denk ik alleen bij een goedkopere versie van het huidig model. Anders zijn de kosten het nooit waard.

      Persoonlijk heb ik liever Lambo in F1 dan Porsche of Audi... gewoon omdat ik extremisme dat ook heerst in f1 meer associeer met Lambo.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:16
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Ik deel je gedachte Joeppp, ik vind het overigens wel lastig inschatten wat Renault zal doen in de toekomst. Voor de spreiding zou het goed zijn als ze 1 of zelfs 2 klantenteams weten te werven. Ook voor hun eigen ontwikkeling, door meer data te vergaren, en dan kunnen ze hun talenten de laatste stap laten maken.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:16
  • Go-Maximiliaan

    Posts: 271

    Audi EN Porsche????
    Erg leuk dat er een nieuw merk bij zou komen! Maar ik durf er veel geld op te zetten dat deze 'twee' fabrikanten gewoon een re-badge uitvoeren. De Volkswagen Group gaat echt geen twee blokken ontwikkelen!

    • + 4
    • 29 sep 2021 - 12:21
    • meister

      Posts: 3.464

      IDD wordt gewoon een VAG motor en wellicht zo dat Audi en of Porsche er een eigen chiptuning aan mogen geven.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:58
    • walteij

      Posts: 1.987

      Ik geloof ook niet dat ze dan beide merken als nieuw team zouden inschrijven.
      Kan me eerder voorstellen dat ze een fabrieksteam gaan inschrijven en een team als Sauber (dus bewust even Alfa Romeo niet als benaming gebruikt) of HAAS als klantenteam proberen te regelen.

      • + 1
      • 29 sep 2021 - 12:59
    • Golf-GTI

      Posts: 1.093

      Tuurlijk een Audi Abt F1 blok!

      • + 1
      • 29 sep 2021 - 14:39
  • SennaDaSilva

    Posts: 3.843

    Porsche EN Audi ?

    Is de VAG groep dan van plan om met beide merken in te stappen? Of is het een wilde gok dat ze met 1 van die merken F1 zouden willen? Of wellicht onder een andere VAG merknaam?

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 13:24
    • SennaDaSilva

      Posts: 3.843

      Oeps.. iets beter lezen SennaDaSilva... ik zie het nu!
      Zou wel heel mooi zijn als die twee merken binnenkomen.

      Vraag me wel af hoe dan, bijvoorbeeld onder Audi naam een eigen motor bouwen en onder de Porsche naam het Red Bull project labelen?

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 13:26
  • Larry Perkins

    Posts: 47.777

    Moet nog zien of ze daadwerkelijk instappen, dit verhaal (of sprookje?) duurt al zolang...

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 23:24
  • MaxRaw

    Posts: 735

    Er is al langer het gerucht dat RB gesprekken voert met de VW groep, dus zou zo maar kunnen dat daar een toekomstige deal uit voort komt.

    • + 0
    • 30 sep 2021 - 09:29

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