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Rosberg roept FIA op tot verandering: "Sport moet progressie gaan boeken"

  • Gepubliceerd op 29 dec 2021 12:27
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het afgelopen Formule 1-seizoen werd gekenmerkt door enkele discutabele beslissingen van de stewards en de wedstrijdleiding. Regelmatig waren late straffen of bijzondere safety cars onderwerp van langdradige discussie. Over het algemeen is men het er wel over eens dat er iets moet gebeuren om het allemaal wat begrijpelijker te maken.

Omtrent het titelduel tussen Max Verstappen en Lewis Hamilton werden er regelmatig lastig te begrijpen beslissingen genomen. Het zorgde weliswaar voor een extra dimensie in het duel maar het werd er niet simpeler door. Hierdoor was de verwarring vaak zeer groot.

Progressie

Enkelvoudig wereldkampioen Nico Rosberg hoopt dat de nieuwe FIA-president Mohammed Ben Sulayem gaat ingrijpen. De Duitser hoopt dat de opvolger van Jean Todt veranderingen gaat doorvoeren. In gesprek met Sky Sports is hij helder: "Ik heb natuurlijk veel respect voor Jean. Maar met een nieuwe naam is er een kans. De sport moet echt progressie gaan boeken."

Wheel-to-wheel

De beslissingen van de stewards zijn volgens Rosberg regelmatig niet te volgen. Hij haalt er een voorbeeld bij: "Het begint al bij het inhalen, bij de wheel-to-wheel duels. Laten we niet vergeten dat Max Lewis inhaalde in de eerste ronde in Abu Dhabi. Hij duwde Hamilton een beetje wijd en Lewis sneed vol gas de bocht af en bleef vooraan rijden. Wij als experts zeiden dat hij die plek moest teruggeven maar er gebeurde niets. De FIA moet het helder maken zodat we deze discussies niet hebben."

F1 Nieuws Nico Rosberg

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  • Joeppp

    Posts: 7.329

    Hoe gaat dat eigenlijk bij de Indycars? is daar ook zoveel gezeur over de regels of laten ze het daar meer aan de coureurs over?

    • + 0
    • 29 dec 2021 - 12:31
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Daar hebben ze geen "last" van de Max-factor, denk ik 😉

      • + 1
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:35
    • amigob

      Posts: 398

      Kijk niet heel vaak indycars, en heb ook nog nooit gehoord dat de wedstrijdleiding moest ingrijpen. Nu hebben ze naast de ovals een aantal straten circuits waar je gewoon niet af kan snijden want daar staan vangrails.

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:36
    • snailer

      Posts: 21.071

      Begreep van Luyendyk de regels veel simpeler zijn. Ze grijpen bij inhaalacties amper in. Die momenten naast de baan de laatste races tussen Hamilton/Verstappen en eerder in het seiozen tussen Alonso/Alfa rijders zouden niet besproken worden daar. (En voor er weer een benelux figuur tussendoor komt. Als is lieg, dan lieg ik in commissie)
      Er zijn ook wat regels over niet onder geel eindigen. Die regels ken ik verder niet genoeg om er iets over te kunnen zeggen verder.

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:42
    • MWHT

      Posts: 4.007

      Joeppp, nee, er worden eigenlijk voornamelijk straffen uitgedeeld voor technische zaken en gevaarlijke situaties in de pitstraat. Vooral op het laatste zijn ze heel fel. Van tracklimits hebben ze geloof ik nog nooit gehoord.
      De Stewards (o.a. Luijendijk) daar zijn nogal van "zoek het op de baan maar uit, zoang het niet al te gek wordt" en de coureurs corrigeren elkaar. als je het te bont maakt, dan word je door pakweg Rossi of Dixon even apart genomen.

      Verschil is misschien ook wel dat de Indycar, vooral op de ovals, wat gevaarlijker is en de coureurs ook wat meer op hun eigen en elkaars gezondheid letten en dat de coureurs wat meer uitgesproken zijn naast de baan

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:43
    • snailer

      Posts: 21.071

      En vergat ik nog. Hij zei ook iets over die crash waar Verstappen boven op Hamilton terecht kwam. Hij vond het de fout van Hamilton want die liet geen ruimte. Maar hij vertelde ook dat er geen actie zou zijn gevolgd.
      Ik vermoed wel een beetje chauvinisme hier. Maar de trend is blijkbaar dat men elkaar wel laat racen.

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:46
    • Liefhebber1

      Posts: 216

      Dat is natuurlijk een totaal andere serie en daar hebben ze goede regels die ook consequent worden gehandhaafd. Maar bovenal hebben ze daar een vrij tolerant publiek...

      • + 3
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:54
    • josdaboss

      Posts: 922

      Ik vind dat er daar te snel een yellow caution komt en de te lang achter de pace car wordt gereden, ook races eindigen vaak achter de pace car

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 13:03
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Als er een serie is waar factor geluk de boventoon voert, is het Inducar wel. Zelfs als je laatste start, ben je niet kansloos om toch nog te winnen.

      • + 2
      • 29 dec 2021 - 14:09
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      De indycar is de sport waar al een safetycar de baan op komt als er een papiertje over de baan waait of de TV zender die het uitzend nog met een reclameblok bezig is.

      • + 2
      • 29 dec 2021 - 14:47
    • Rvb1979

      Posts: 1.132

      @ snailer het niet finishen achter safty heet overtime ze plakken er gewoon een rondje aan . Dus start achter saftycar dat rondje en nog een rondje . En als er een crash is in het eerste rondje begint overtime overnieuw . Als het eerste rondje geweest is en geen crash komt er een witte vlag en dan word er zoiezo gefinished als rijden er 20 op elkaar 🤣🤣 . Verder zijn er zo goed als geen regels met elkaar eraf duwen dat lossen de rijders onderling op door te vechten of zo na de race . Je mag met verdedigen alleen maar 1x van lijn wisselen daar zijn ze streng op . En wat al eerder gezegt werd track limits op een gewoon circuit bestaat niet op cota rijden ze letterlijk 5 meter van de baan af haha op ovals zijn er wel hele strenge tracklimits in de bochten mag je niet over de witte lijn

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 20:25
    • Dick de Cock

      Posts: 3.331

      @Rvb

      Als dat bij de F1 gebeurt dan delft Max natuurlijk het onderspit.
      Lewis is niet alleen een genadigd coureur,maar in zijn vrije tijd is hij ook nog een ninja en hitman,Max maakt dan geen schijn van kans.

      • + 1
      • 29 dec 2021 - 23:18
    • Rvb1979

      Posts: 1.132

      @ dick zou mij niets verbazen lewis komt van de straat 🤣 max is wel wat groter maar je weet wat ze zeggen op straat hoe groter ze zijn des te harder ze vallen

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 23:34
    • Rvb1979

      Posts: 1.132

      Mijn gewelige overtime verhaal is natuulijk in nascar in indy is dat niet. Ach het is al laat

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 23:41
    • Televisie67

      Posts: 2.046

      Tot niet lang geleden was het iig redelijk idioot eigenlijk. Tracklist doen ze niet moeilijk over op veel circuits terwijl die circuits daar niet voor ontworpen zijn. Rijden ze dus heel andere lijnen en als het mis gaat is het huilen. Geen idee of ze dit nog steeds doen.

      • + 0
      • 30 dec 2021 - 03:27
    • zoefroef

      Posts: 1.408

      Zullen ze een goede tracklist op de on board hebben?

      • + 0
      • 30 dec 2021 - 15:39
  • Larry Perkins

    Posts: 47.777

    De F1 kan maximaal progressie maken als Max ouwe Kel dumpt en een vrouw met brede heupen vindt die goed kan baren en zo een serie mini-Maxjes op de wereld zet.
    Of beter, op het circuit...

    Is een beetje lange termijn politiek, maar regeren is vooruitzien...

    • + 1
    • 29 dec 2021 - 12:49
    • snailer

      Posts: 21.071

      Het meerlingen in haar genen, Larry?

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 12:54
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      @Larry: ik denk dat de F1 1 Max 'net an' kan managen, maar een hele serie? ;-)

      • + 1
      • 29 dec 2021 - 13:01
    • Larry Perkins

      Posts: 47.777

      Uiteraard @Snailer, anders duurt het nog langer...

      En opa Jos wordt de nieuwe Masi @F(1)orum, en tevens dictator van de F1.

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 13:18
    • Rvb1979

      Posts: 1.132

      Nou de genenpool met die ouwe kel zal toch ook niet verkeerd zijn denk ik

      • + 0
      • 30 dec 2021 - 09:51
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    In welke sport dan ook, worden goede en verkeerde beslissingen genomen. Je kan het nooit dicht timmeren. Daardoor krijg je overregulering en wordt het alleen maar saaier. Goede en slechte beslissingen horen nou eenmaal bij de sport. Gewoon accepteren en doorgaan. Sometimes you win en sometimes you lose.

    • + 0
    • 29 dec 2021 - 13:51
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Ja maar als je zeven jaar lang alles wint, is dat een pijnpuntje natuurlijk….;)

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 14:11
    • inflatable

      Posts: 3.524

      Dat klopt, maar er is ook echt wel ruimte voor verbetering in de F1 qua wedstrijdleiding.. Ze zijn wel erg vaak niet consequent qua toepassing van hun eigen regels.. Wat Mercedes betreft, die mogen ook wel wat meer zelfreflectie tonen i.p.v. alleen maar afgeven op de FIA (lees: Masi), het was niet alleen het verwarrende beleid van Masi met de safetycar dat ze de titel kostte, het was ook gewoon weer hun eigen te conservatieve strategisch denken.. In feite dezelfde situatie als in Boedapest waar ze Hamilton ook in z'n eentje op de grid lieten staan voor de herstart terwijl de rest wel naar binnen was gegaan voor slicks en ze dat uiteindelijk een relatief makkelijke overwinning gekost heeft..

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 14:37
  • inflatable

    Posts: 3.524

    Begin misschien eens met een vaste samenstelling van de stewards, zodat het altijd dezelfde mensen zijn die de beslissingen nemen.. Dan ken je op een gegeven moment hun mening en weet je waar je aan toe bent.. Nu heb je bij elke race andere stewards die weer anders over dingen denken en dus weer anders beslissen bij vergelijkbare situaties.. Ook moet goed duidelijk gemaakt worden wanneer de wedstrijdleiding van bepaalde regels mag afwijken, zoals ze deden met de safetycar regels in Abu Dhabi.. Of juist helemaal niet meer laten afwijken en iets anders verzinnen om een race niet achter de safetycar te laten eindigen.. Standaard een rode vlag en herstart in de laatste 5 of 10 ronden ofzo.. En gewoon consequent zijn en niet steeds met allerlei uitzonderingen komen, zoals met tracklimits in de 1e race in Bahrein waar Lewis 29 ronden achtereen die mag overtreden maar Max bij 1 inhaalactie niet.. Inderdaad ruimte genoeg om zogenaamde "progressie" te boeken..

    • + 2
    • 29 dec 2021 - 14:27
  • TylaHunter

    Posts: 8.802

    Offtopic: wat als Hamilton stopt... en Papa Stroll legt 50 mil in voor zijn zoon Lance, inruil voor de Vries bij Aston... ;)

    Ik zie dit nog wel gebeuren ook, het is niet wat ik wil zien, maar ik zou dit logischer vinden dan Bottas terug. Geen juridische uitkopen... puur business tussen twee zakenmannen Wolff en Stroll sr.

    • + 0
    • 29 dec 2021 - 15:10
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Als Lewis stopt lijkt dat misschien een mogelijk scenario.
      Nyck naar AM en Lance naar Mercedes. Maar dat zal alleen zijn omdat Toto en Lawrence bij elkaar in de endeldarm wroeten.
      Binnen de rest van Mercedes zal
      men niet staan te juichen om Lewis door Lance vervangen te zien worden. Ik denk Toto ook niet want die wil in 2022 natuurlijk wel weer voor de titel vechten en met Lance weet je 1 ding zeker; Je vecht niet voor de titel.
      Dan zal Toto denk ik nog eerder proberen Vettel los te weken en Nyck met wat handgeld richting AM te schuiven.

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 15:32
    • M@ximumOverdrive

      Posts: 6.934

      Papa Stroll heeft al belangrijk personeel van Mercedes gestrikt , en op de achtergrond heeft men naar verluid vernomen dat Toto niet blij hiermee was , ik denk dat Lawrence voor eigen succes met AM gaat .

      • + 0
      • 29 dec 2021 - 20:26
    • Televisie67

      Posts: 2.046

      Tal van coureurs gaan voor De Vries.

      • + 1
      • 30 dec 2021 - 03:28
  • Rvb1979

    Posts: 1.132

    Indycar is amerikaans en daar is altijd geluk en pech bewust een grote factor. En als er een team of rijder dominant lijkt te worden word er direct alles aangedaan omdat te voorkomen tot het absurde aan toe 🤣 . Vaak leuk om te kijken maar wel echt te veel gericht op de show . Nog veel meer als f1 dit jaar. Denk ook niet dat er een amerikaan is die de beslissing aan het einde van de laatste race gek of oneerlijk vond 🤣

    • + 0
    • 29 dec 2021 - 20:13
    • Rvb1979

      Posts: 1.132

      Oeps moest bij de bovenste reactie 🙈

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      • 29 dec 2021 - 21:13

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