Ferrari ziet in Sainz nog geen leider: "Weten dat we twee sterke coureurs hebben"

  • Gepubliceerd op 08 aug 2022 17:09
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Ferrari-coureur Carlos Sainz is bezig met een seizoen vol ups en downs. In de eerste seizoenshelft werd Sainz regelmatig verslagen door zijn teamgenoot Charles Leclerc. Daarnaast maakte de Spanjaard veel foutjes en werd hij gehinderd door de betrouwbaarheidsproblemen van zijn team Ferrari.

Sainz viel in Australië en Imola uit vanwege een spin, deze twee uitvalbeurten waren overduidelijk zijn eigen fout. In Oostenrijk en Azerbeidzjan kreeg hij te maken met de problemen waarmee zijn team al het gehele seizoen worstelt. De betrouwbaarheid van de Ferrari laat te wensen over en dat deed Sainz pijn. In Silverstone beleefde hij zijn grootste succes door de race op zijn naam te schrijven.

Geen geheim

De Spanjaard heeft flinke stappen gezet en dat stemt men bij Ferrari tevreden. Racing director Laurent Mekies is zeer tevreden met de vooruitgang van Sainz. Mekies wordt geciteerd door Motorsportweek: "Je hebt gelijk als je zegt dat hij goede progressie heeft geboekt sinds de start van het seizoen. We hebben er geen geheim van gemaakt dat de auto niet heel erg goed bij hem paste. We hebben hard gewerkt men hem, zijn engineers en iedereen in Maranello om ervoor te zorgen dat hij iets kreeg waarmee hij zich comfortabel voelt. Dat neemt tijd in beslag."

Leider

Langzamerhand begint het erop te lijken dat Sainz de weg omhoog heeft ingezet. In Oostenrijk, Silverstone en Frankrijk reed hij immers zeer sterke races. Volgens Mekies is hij daardoor nog niet de kopman van Ferrari: "Het begint erop te lijken dat we ons in de juiste richting bewegen. Dat is een goed signaal voor het team. Maakt dat iemand een leider? Nee, dat is niet iets wat je een leider maakt. We weten dat we twee heel sterke coureurs hebben."

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  • StevenQ

    Posts: 9.179

    Ik zie in Sainz meer een leider dan in Leclerc die niks durft te zeggen over strategie, dat doet Sainz wel af en toe

    • + 20
    • 8 aug 2022 - 17:24
    • dat denk ik ook, leclerc is een beetje te beleefd als een leider, ook al denk hij dat het foute call is dan nog gaat hij gewoon er in mee. en bij sainz is het zo dat hij vaak diplomatiek opstelt en een echte teamspelers kan zijn, maar durft hij ook nee zeggen op belangrijke momenten als hij denkt dat het niet de juiste strategie is. en meestal heeft hij achteraf ook wel gelijk.

      • + 3
      • 8 aug 2022 - 17:48
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Een leider die trager is dan zijn teamgenoot is geen leider.
      Charles is duidelijk de snelste.
      Charles is echter nederig en zeer correct naar Ferrari. Dankbaar ook.
      Daarom gedraagt hij zich altijd zo, slikt zijn woorden in en geeft zijn eigen fouten toe. Dat is heel bijzonder gedrag en siert hem maar het houdt hem ook tegen om die laatste stap naar de top te zetten.
      Ferrari moet hem daarin begeleiden en iemand moet hem daarin coachen. Charles is nu te lief. Maar wel snel.
      Carlos is een waardeloze teamleider. Te langzaam en geen partij voor Max.
      Hij heeft de praatjes en de houding die een teamleider wel zou kunnen hebben maar simpelweg niet de prestaties. Nee, als Ferrari haar kaarten op Sainz gaat zetten dan mogen ze tot 2028 wachten op een wereldtitel. Waarom 2028? Dan kunnen ze Max misschien losweken.

      • + 6
      • 8 aug 2022 - 17:56
    • Joeppp

      Posts: 7.329

      Tsja, zit wat in maar ik hoor Hamilton ook alles aan zijn team overlaten en toch is hij altijd de nummer 1 geweest.

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:01
    • oale

      Posts: 697

      @Rimmer

      De snelste coureur zijn maakte je ook niet de leider. Zie Mercedes.

      Leider is de persoon die het team op sleeptouw weet te nemen en in staat is om andere beslissingen te forceren. Dat zie ik Sainz wel doen maar Charles niet

      • + 7
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:15
    • monzaron

      Posts: 223

      Het gaat me nu even niet wie de betere rijder is, maar Ik zou Sainz nu al als leider naar voren schuiven, denk dan dat de fouten bij Ferrari beter ‘bloot’ komen te liggen. Nu met Leclerc worden deze nog met de ‘mantel der liefde’ bedekt.

      • + 3
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:15
    • "The captaincy in Formula 1 is grossly overestimated."

      De teambaasjes zijn de teamleiders. Dat is wat anders dan de duidelijke nummer 1 coureurs zoals Verstappen bij Red Bull en Hamilton in combinatie met Bottas was.

      Hoewel het vaker samengaat dan niet, hoeft de #1 niet altijd de beste feed back te geven, de mondigste te zijn, etc. Uiteindelijk telt er maar één ding om te bepalen wie de #1 binnen het team is en dat is de coureur die de meeste kans heeft om wereldkampioen te worden en dat had m.i. Ferrari op zijn laatst zo'n 4 GP's terug al moeten doen met Leclerc.

      Om van Charles een betere titelkandidaat voor de nabije toekomst te maken, zou Ferrari moeten doen wat @Rimmer hierboven al aangeeft.

      Indien Binotto nog daadwerkelijk gelooft in een WK-titel, hoe klein de kans ook, zou hij Leclerc alsnog met spoed (in ieder geval voor de rest van dit seizoen) de #1 moeten maken. Sainz (en Perez) is geen serieuze kanshebber.

      De echte teamleider zou dus als teambaas intern(!) eindelijk eens echt spijkers met koppen moeten slaan.
      Trouwens ook richting zijn strategen, maar dat is weer een ander onderwerp (hoofdpijndossier)...

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:47
    • ThisGuy

      Posts: 1.492

      @Rimmer "Waarom 2028? Dan kunnen ze Max misschien losweken"
      Zou Ferrari tegen die tijd de beschuldiging van Verstappen over het valsspelen van Ferrari zijn vergeten?

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:51
    • RBH2019

      Posts: 5.888

      Als Verstappen straks de enige wereldkampioen op de grid is, zijn ze alles wel vergeten ja.

      • + 2
      • 8 aug 2022 - 18:57
    • ThisGuy

      Posts: 1.492

      Ferrari en wereldkampioenen binnenhalen, het blijft een dingetje...

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 19:06
    • Zoals met toen tweevoudig wereldkampioen Michael Schumacher @ThisGuy?

      • + 3
      • 8 aug 2022 - 19:17
    • ThisGuy

      Posts: 1.492

      Fjoe, hoe red ik me hier uit...
      Schumacher is de bevestiging van de uitzondering op de regel?

      • + 0
      • 8 aug 2022 - 19:28
    • Bwoah, het is eigenlijk niet zo belangrijk, maar er rust geen vloek op en dus is het ook geen dingetje.

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 19:45
    • Joeppp

      Posts: 7.329

      Jawel, het is wel een dingetje. Ik weet nog niet wat voor een dingetje maar een dingetje is het.

      • + 0
      • 8 aug 2022 - 20:52
    • @Rimmer: ik ben het niet met jouw conclusie eens en ik zie de focus bij Ferrari nog wel eens richting Sainz gaan i.p.v. Leclerc. Sainz is sterker, volwassener en spreekt zich duidelijker uit. Hij heeft de pech dat de auto voor Leclerc is gemaakten dat de focus bij Leclerc ligt. Dat gaat denk ik nog wel veranderen. Leclerc is naar mijn mening geen leider en niet in staat om Ferrari op sleeptouw te nemen

      • + 1
      • 8 aug 2022 - 21:56
    • ThisGuy@ Het was geen beschuldiging, hij zei gewoon de waarheid "Dat krijg je natuurlijk als je moet stoppen met valsspelen'', of was het niet waar dan?

      • + 2
      • 9 aug 2022 - 01:09
    • ThisGuy

      Posts: 1.492

      De waarheid ligt bij Ferrari en de FIA. Voor ons simpele zielen is het alleen aannemelijk dat er vals gespeeld is. 100% zeker kunnen we niet zijn. Vandaar de beschuldiging.

      • + 0
      • 9 aug 2022 - 01:26
    • @rimmer dat leclerc meestal sneller is dan sainz maakt hem nog niet tot een leider. je haalt twee dingen door elkaar. talent hebben in het racen betekent niet automatisch dat je ook talent hebt als een leider. als een leider moet je durven om de juiste beslissingen te nemen in moeilijke tijden om de slag te winnen. ik wil niet zeggen dat leclerc dat niet heeft maar ik heb het nog niet gezien bij hem. ja leclerc heeft meer natuurlijke talent dan sainz, maar sainz kan terugvechten in moeilijke tijden omdat hij leiderschap vertoont die hem het beetje tekort aan talent de situatie weet om te buigen in zijn voordeel. ja leclerc zal oppermachtig zijn als hij geleidt wordt door echte bekwame leiders aan de pitmuur van ferrari maar helaas.

      • + 3
      • 9 aug 2022 - 04:48
    • Vind toch dat LP met zijn reactie van 8 aug 2022 - 18:47 ook deze discussie weer heeft gewonnen...

      • + 0
      • 9 aug 2022 - 08:08
    • @Rimmer geeft het probleem bij Ferrari precies neer. Sainz is strategisch sterker of in ieder geval mondiger. Een coureur moet soms een team kunnen overrulen of in ieder geval input geven om de strategie aan te passen. Maar als een leider snelheid mist ten opzichte van zijn teammate kost dat punten. Sainz mist consistency om met Verstappen te concurreren. En Leclerc mist (nu nog) het leiderschap talent. En in competitie met Max heb je beide eigenschappen nodig.

      • + 1
      • 9 aug 2022 - 10:13
    • Vind toch dat LP met zijn reactie van 8 aug 2022 - 18:47 ook deze discussie weer heeft gewonnen...

      Nope, teveel tekst..

      • + 0
      • 9 aug 2022 - 13:17
    • Zeg dan alleen "LP heeft gewonnen."

      Da's een stuk korter en toch net zo duidelijk...

      • + 0
      • 9 aug 2022 - 14:28
  • oale

    Posts: 697

    Sainz is meer een leider dan Charles

    • + 3
    • 8 aug 2022 - 18:12
  • Sainz was in Frankrijk heel goed en waarschijnlijk sneller dan Leclerc. Maar in Oostenrijk en Silverstone was Leclerc toch echt veel sneller, zelfs met schade. Sainz haalde daar met geluk pole doordat Leclerc in de fout ging tijdens de kwealificatie en met heel veel geluk de overwinnig omdat Verstappen pech had en Ferrari blunderde met de strategie van Leclerc. Ik vond echt niks overtuigend aan de overwinning van Sainz. Ook in Hongarije was Sainz in de race helemaal nergens.

    Dat Sainz niet ver achter Leclerc staat in het kampioenschap zegt vooral veel over hoeveel er is misgegaan bij Leclerc. Sainz heeft met geluk 1 overwinning gehaald. Leclerc met wat minder pech had op 6 overwinningen kunnen staan.

    • + 1
    • 8 aug 2022 - 18:23
  • Klus

    Posts: 1.951

    Ferrari ziet wel meer niet.

    • + 1
    • 8 aug 2022 - 18:55
  • Na de finish waren nog mooie (en treurige) onboards van zowel Sainz als Leclerc. Zeer de moeite waard.
    Sainz zocht geen excuus voor zijn 4de plek. Leclerc gaf terecht de witte de schuld hoewel ik denkd at hij ook niet had gewonnen als hij lang was doorgegaan op geel en dan naar rood was gegaan.

    Sainz kwam wel zekerder over. Puur wat ik er uit haal he.

    • + 2
    • 8 aug 2022 - 19:03
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Eigenlijk zegt hij dat ze überhaupt geen leider hebben........

    • + 4
    • 8 aug 2022 - 20:47
  • Dat Leclerc naar buiten toe niets over zijn team zegt, zegt niets over wat hij achter gesloten deuren zegt. Hij weet hoe de cultuur van Ferrari werkt: naar buiten toe hou je je mond. En dat doet hij.

    • + 2
    • 8 aug 2022 - 21:03
  • Hij past eerder niet bij de wagen
    Dan andersom
    Opzouten of iedere race meedoen op het hoogste

    • + 0
    • 8 aug 2022 - 22:09
  • Ik zie in Binotto geen leider. Zo zien we allemaal wel iets niet of wel.
    Leclerc is het ja-knikkertje dat Binotto graag heeft, Sainz gebruikt zijn verstand en geeft zijn eigen mening als hij dat nodig vindt, toch wel een belangrijke eigenschap als je teamleider wil zijn.

    • + 2
    • 8 aug 2022 - 22:48
  • Sainz toont meer leiderschap dan de hele pitmuur van Ferrari ooit heeft laten zien.

    • + 3
    • 9 aug 2022 - 02:18
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Om eerlijk te zijn zie ik in beide coureur daar geen leider. Het zijn beide goede coureurs en meer ook niet.

    • + 0
    • 9 aug 2022 - 11:10

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