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Vettel had kans op Mercedes-zitje: "Mocht echter niet zo zijn"

  • Gepubliceerd op 17 nov 2022 12:36
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Sebastian Vettel rijdt aankomend weekend in Abu Dhabi zijn laatste Grand Prix uit zijn Formule 1-loopbaan. De Duitser kende een grootste loopbaan maar hij boekte nooit successen in dienst van een Duitse renstal. Vettel geeft toe dat een overstap naar Mercedes in het verleden tot de mogelijkheden behoorde.

Vettel werd vier keer wereldkampioen in dienst van het Oostenrijkse Red Bull Racing. Na zijn Red Bull-jaren trok Vettel naar het team van Ferrari. In dienst van de legendarische Italiaanse renstal moest hij elke keer het onderspit delven in de strijd met het team van Mercedes. Lewis Hamilton was hem regelmatig te snel af.

Lauda

Huidig Aston Martin-coureur Vettel geeft toe dat hij wel voor Mercedes had kunnen rijden. De afzwaaiende Duitser geeft het eerlijk toe in de podcast Beyond the Grid van de Formule 1: "Ik heb geen idee of dat kon, misschien kon het. Ik heb wel gesproken met Niki Lauda. Het zou echter een big deal zijn geweest omdat Lewis overduidelijk hun nummer één was en ik weet niet zeker of ze ons allebei in het team wilde hebben."

Ferrari

Vettel had zelf echter geen nee gezegd tegen een onderling duel met Lewis Hamilton in hetzelfde materiaal. Het kwam er echter nooit van en Vettel haalt zijn schouders erover op: "Ik denk dat ik er wel van had genoten. Het mocht echter niet zo zijn. Op dat moment was het mijn doel om te winnen met Ferrari. Ik wilde niet van team gaan wisselen en dan gaan winnen voor Mercedes. Ik hield van winnen maar winnen met Ferrari was mijn doel. Het gebeurde echter niet."

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  • d07

    Posts: 2.405

    Moet je nagaan als Vettel vanaf 2014 in de Mercedes had gezeten.
    Dan had ie misschien wel 10x kampioen kunnen worden.
    Als, als, als, als

    • + 3
    • 17 nov 2022 - 12:45
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      Je bedoelt naast Lewis?

      • + 3
      • 17 nov 2022 - 12:47
    • Sun-Tzu

      Posts: 3.385

      Als Vettel in 2014 voor Mercedes had gereden, dan had Hamilton daar niet gezeten. Rosberg lag immers al vast. Wellicht was Hamilton dan wel juist naar Red Bull gegaan. We zullen het nooit weten.

      • + 3
      • 17 nov 2022 - 15:31
    • f(1)orum

      Posts: 6.771

      @Sun-Tzu: Lewis reed vanaf 2013 voor Mercedes en had toen een 3 jarig contract getekend.

      • + 6
      • 17 nov 2022 - 15:55
  • Flying Dutchman

    Posts: 2.210

    Vettel op dat moment was zeker sterker dan Rosberg op zijn top. Ik denk ten minste 1-2 titels(en misschien nog meer) bij Benz waren best mogelijk voor Vettel.
    Maar ja, ooit rijden voor Ferrari wil bijna iedereen. Vettel had nog vers in zijn hoofd de prestaties die Schumacher Sr. had geflikt. Dus i.p.v. helemaal opnieuw beginnen zoals destijds in 1996 - kwam hij eigenlijk al in een ready-to-win team en had zelf een paar keer de kansen om de titel te winnen.. maar ja, beide keer zelf verprutst.
    Hoe dan ook, het zou mooi zijn om Vettel en Hamilton in een team te zien terwijl beiden op hun top waren op dat moment.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2022 - 13:17
    • Damon Hill

      Posts: 16.887

      We zijn het vaak met elkaar eens, maar in dit geval kan ik me er niet helemaal in vinden. Voor mijn gevoel kon Vettel simpelweg net even minder goed overweg met het hybride tijdperk (vanaf 2014) dan de periode van daarvoor. Als je kijkt naar 2013 en eerder, dan lijkt het wel alsof Vettel altijd op een rails lag. Vanaf 2014 vind ik het toch net even allemaal wat minder. In 2014 werd hij zelfs vrij ruim verslagen door Ricciardo die net nieuw was bij het team. Oké, vanaf 2015 is hij Raikkonen de baas maar diezelfde Raikkonen werd in 2014 echt compleet vernederd door Alonso.

      Kort samengevat vind ik de Vettel van 2014 en daarna lang niet zo goed als de Vettel van 2007 t/m 2013. Hadden we hem naast Hamilton gezet bij Mercedes, dan denk ik dat Hamilton simpelweg gewonnen had, keer op keer. Het is zelfs nog te betwisten of Vettel het echt beter gedaan zou hebben dan Rosberg (een coureur die erg onderschat is in mijn ogen).

      • + 2
      • 17 nov 2022 - 13:45
    • ChrisFerrari15

      Posts: 405

      Vettel in 2015, 2017 en eerste seizoenshelft 2018 was echt verschrikkelijk goed. Beter dan Lewis imo. Ferrari liet het echter afwegen en wat ongelukkige incidenten in 2017 kostte Vettel de titel. Tweede helft 2018 was Vettel niet zo sterk (op paar races na) en liet Ferrari het gigantisch afweten

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2022 - 14:11
    • Damon Hill

      Posts: 16.887

      @ChrisFerrari15,
      Verschrikkelijk goed? Of was de Ferrari óók gewoon erg goed? Nog steeds was het gat tussen Alonso en Raikkonen in 2014 een stuk groter dan tussen Vettel en Raikkonen in 2015, 2017 en 2018.

      Toegegeven, in 2015 en een groot deel van 2017 vond ik Vettel erg sterk presteren. Maar "verschrikkelijk goed"... nee dan moet je wel terug naar 2013 en eerder.
      De start in Singapore 2017 was wel echt een fout van Vettel, en dit bleek ook meteen een ontzettend dure.
      2018 was echt matig. Fouten op Paul Ricard, Hockenheim, Monza, Suzuka en nog eentje waar ik even niet op kan komen.

      Maar dat Vettel beter was dan Lewis op sommige momenten gaat me te ver. Misschien (en waarschijnlijk) was ook die Ferrari gewoon erg goed.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2022 - 14:25
    • Sun-Tzu

      Posts: 3.385

      Vergeet niet dat Vettel vooral overweg kan met een bolide met een strakke achterkant. Wanneer hij vol overgave de bocht induikt houdt hij totaal niet van overstuur. Dat hij in de periode tot 2013 dan ook op rails leek te rijden was met name het verdienste van de filosofie van Newey, Red Bull en bijvoorbeeld de blown-diffuser om er maar 1 te noemen.

      Hamilton en Vettel in 1 team zou wel interessant zijn, maar het zou mogelijk ook een Vettel-Raikkonen scenario kunnen opleveren. Hamilton, maar ook Kimi, houden van een erg losse achterkant, dus totaal het tegenovergestelde van de rijstijl van Vettel. Een compromis kan bijna nooit leiden tot een echt succesvolle bolide.

      Bij Ferrari zag je dat Kimi beduidend sterker was met een losse achtereinde en totaal verbleekte naast Vettel zodra Ferrari de bolide meer zijn kant op ontwikkelde. Vettel en Hamilton naast elkaar zou dan naar mijn mening vooral een interne ontwikkelingsstrijd zijn geworden.

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2022 - 15:37
    • Flying Dutchman

      Posts: 2.210

      @Damon

      Dat Vettel niet met hybride goed overweg kon - mee eens. Dat Rosberg zwaar onderschat wordt - ook mee eens.
      Echter, een Vettel van dat moment was zeer goed en waarschijnlijk een tandje hoger dan Rosberg. Nou, een simpele rekensom.. als Rosberg meestal gelijkwaardig aan Hamilton was en wist hem regelmatig te verslaan en zelfs een keer de titel afpakken - dan zou het (IMO) Vettel ook lukken om op zijn minst dezelfde prestaties neer te zetten. Let op, een Vettel-versie van 2016-2017 of erna zou het waarschijnlijk niet meer kunnen maar een Vettel-versie daarvoor - die kans is zeer aanwezig.
      Ik ben geen Vettel fan en probeer hem niet goed te praten maar hij was ultiem goed tot zeg maar 2016-2017. Vandaar dat ik zei dat er wellicht 1-2 extra titels voor hem bij Benz waren. Meer - is de vraag. Ik baseer dit puur door Vettal van dat moment te vergelijken met Rosberg van 2013-2016. Nogmaals, Rosberg was goed, top zelfs maar Vettel uit die tijd was minimaal zelfde qua niveau of zelfs een tandje beter - beide opties zijn genoeg om het Hamilton lastig te maken en zelfs van hem winnen.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2022 - 16:33
    • Flying Dutchman

      Posts: 2.210

      Vettal = Vettel..
      Heb autocorrect voor 6 talen staan

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2022 - 16:35
    • Flying Dutchman

      Posts: 2.210

      PS: Dat Hamilton beter of sneller was/is dan Vettel - is voor mij ook een feit. Echter, in F1 gaan dingen soms anders. In 2003 deed Raikkonen mee voor de titel zonder veel races te winnen, soms kan je snellere teamgenoot net meer pech hebben, dan heb je nog wisselende weersomstandigheden enz. - kortom, allemaal kansen om te profiteren. Rosberg is een goede voorbeeld - heeft er maximale uit gehaald en titel gewonnen. Totaal verdiend ook. Maar we weten allemaal dat Hamilton beter is dan Rosberg. Tja, nogmaals, omstandigheden zijn soms anders en dan moet je er altijd snel bij zijn om maximaal te kunnen profiteren.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2022 - 16:46
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Als Vettel naar Mercedes was gegaan, dan had hij een auto gehad waarvan de rijbaarheid en powerafgifte wil meer in zijn straatje paste. Mercedes had het gewoon helemaal in orde en Renault en Ferrari hadden die echt niet in orde en kon zich daar maar moeilijk op aanpassen. Het hybridetijdperk heeft Vettel geen goed gedaan vanwege zijn manier van rijden. Maar ik vind Vettel wel een completere rijder dan Hamilton en die had ook echt wel een paar titels gepakt.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2022 - 14:30
    • Trelas

      Posts: 986

      Vettel vs. Hamilton met hetzelfde materiaal. Ik had het wel mooi gevonden denk ik, maar wie er de overhand zou hebben? We zullen het nooit weten..

      • + 0
      • 18 nov 2022 - 13:19

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