Alpine-motordeal Andretti is verlopen

  • Gepubliceerd op 12 okt 2023 10:46
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Autosportfederatie FIA keurde anderhalve week geleden de plannen van Andretti Cadillac goed. Wat hen betreft mag de Amerikaanse renstal gaan deelnemen aan de Formule 1. Andretti had zelfs al een motordeal met Renault op zak, maar volgens Bruno Famin is die deal verlopen.

Andretti aast al een paar jaar op een plekje op de Formule 1-grid. In eerste instantie probeerden ze Sauber te kopen, maar die plannen liepen in de soep. Andretti wilde daarna samen met Cadillac een eigen team opzetten, maar daarvoor moesten ze het proces van de FIA doorlopen. Als enige kwamen ze hier doorheen en de FIA keurde de plannen goed, maar nu moeten ze het gesprek aangaan met de FOM.

Verlopen

Het was geen geheim dat Andretti al een motordeal had met Alpine-moederbedrijf Renault. Maar, volgens interim Alpine-teambaas Bruno Famin is dat nu niet meer het geval. Famin spreekt zich uit bij Canal Plus: "We hebben inderdaad gesproken met Andretti. We hadden een deal gesloten, een voorlopig contract voor het leveren van motoren. Dat contract is echter al op 31 maart verlopen. Het hing volledig af van of ze toestemming zouden krijgen en op dat moment was dat nog niet het geval."

Nieuwe gesprekken

Dat de deal nu is verlopen betekent echter niet dat de Renault-deur op slot zit voor Andretti. Famin staat altijd open voor nieuwe gesprekken, maar hij stelt er wel een aantal voorwaarden aan vast: "We hebben momenteel op geen enkele manier banden met Andretti. Maar, als ze die veelbesproken goedkeuring ontvangen, dan kunnen we misschien weer met ze gaan praten over het leveren van een motor."

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  • 919

    Posts: 2.372

    Liever ver lopen dan Renault kopen.

    • + 17
    • 12 okt 2023 - 11:05
    • Roest En Narigheid Achtervolgen U Lange Tijd

      • + 8
      • 12 okt 2023 - 11:58
    • De meest betrouwbare auto die ik bezit heb was een Renault Scenic. Beter dan de Toyota Avensis of de Hyundai Tucson...

      Elke 15.000 km een beurt. De beurten duurde ook nog eens uren, volgens mij om stiekem reparaties uit te voeren en ze de betrouwbaarheid op te schroeven. De Renault elke 65.000 km een beurt. Ik zag de dealer eens per twee jaar...

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 13:16
    • 65000 km zonder olie verversen?

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 14:27
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      Misschien moet Alpine dan maar met jouw oude Renault Scenic gaan racen.

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 15:51
    • Vade

      Posts: 3.586

      James praat onzin. Bij de Scenic is/was het schema om de 30.000 km of twee jaar. Dus elke 65.000 is gewoon onzin.

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 17:27
    • Nu ja, onzin... Ik vergis mij wellicht. Laat onverlet dat de Grand Scenic nooit problemen heeft gehad. En dat ik minder vaak beurten hoefde. En dat ik met de Toyota meer problemen had.

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 23:19
    • Vade

      Posts: 3.586

      Misschien eens met wat minder krachttermen je punt proberen duidelijk te maken. Je zit op een F1 forum waar mensen net iets vaker meer van auto's weten dan dat ze alleen 4 wielen hebben.

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 23:35
    • je Scenic vergelijken met de F1.., James kan dat..

      • + 0
      • 13 okt 2023 - 09:05
  • Hoppa, de prijs van het Renault torretje gaat spontaan een aantal keren over de kop.
    Alpine verdient ineens een berg centen aan deze misrekening.
    Kunnen ze mooi in de ontwikkeling van hun eigen autootjes spenderen.

    • + 1
    • 12 okt 2023 - 11:06
  • Ik denk dat een deal met Honda veel meer kans maakt, gezien de bestaande samenwerking tussen GM en Honda

    • + 1
    • 12 okt 2023 - 11:17
    • Dan zouden ze pas in 2026 op de grid verschijnen en ze zijn er nu al klaar voor zodra ze een PU hebben. Gaat dus niet gebeuren.

      • + 3
      • 12 okt 2023 - 11:27
    • Nee precies, Honda heeft nu natuurlijk geen werkende motor.

      • + 2
      • 12 okt 2023 - 12:07
    • Of een RBPT Honda maar dan moet RB daar snel kennis van hebben.

      • + 1
      • 12 okt 2023 - 12:08
    • @Tyla, over die PU heeft RB helemaal niets te zeggen.
      Die kopen ze zelf van Honda.

      • + 1
      • 12 okt 2023 - 12:27
    • XaoRalas

      Posts: 774

      @Pietje Wie is er klaar voor? Andretti? Die zijn nog volop bezig om een fabriek en ontwerpstudio te bouwen. En vanaf 2026 kunnen ze überhaupt pas instappen.

      Die vervroegde instap is allang geej sprake meer van.

      Honda is officieel geen leverancier in F1. RBPT is de constructeur met Honda sponsoring. Dat dit in concrete betekent dat ze de Hondamotoren gewoon kopen is een tweede. Honda zou per direct de F1 weer in moeten komen als officiële fabrikant om iemand van motoren te voorzien. Aangezien iedereen gewoon een contract heeft tot 2026 naar mijn weten moet er heel wat gebeuren wil dit gebeuren.

      Wat de relatie is die GM en Honda buiten de F1 hebben is compleet irrelevant. Renault werkt ook samen met Mercedes.

      • + 1
      • 12 okt 2023 - 18:47
  • Gelezen: "General Motors, de partner van het wellicht toekomstige Formule 1-team van Andretti, overweegt momenteel om vanaf 2027 zelf Formule 1-power units te ontwikkelen."

    Kan Mario daar dan niet beter op wachten?

    • + 0
    • 12 okt 2023 - 14:38
    • Maak daar maar Michael van Mario is straks 80 of zoiets :p

      • + 0
      • 12 okt 2023 - 21:09
    • Nee, omdat dit een ontzettend leeg verhaal is. Als dit waar zou zijn, waarom starten ze de ontwikkeling nu niet al dan? Hoe lang duurt dat denkproces? Daar kan Michael (die runt het team, Mario niet) niet op wachten natuurlijk.
      Sowieso is het waarschijnlijk onzin.

      • + 1
      • 12 okt 2023 - 21:55
  • XaoRalas

    Posts: 774

    Alpine blijft een interessante leverancier voor Andretti. Sowieso is het heel simplistisch om te doen alsof Renault ook in 2026 niet op niveau zou zijn. Dat weten we immers helemaal niet. Renault heeft geen bestaande relatie met een ander team op het moment. Dit betekent dat er wellicht kansen liggen om eeen betere deal te krijgen voor Andretti. Financieel, maar evt ook qua support en misschien zelfs in verder commercieel opzicht. Stel dat ze bijv Nissan of Mitsubishi kunnen voeren. Daar heeft Renault wel wat extra's voor over. Zolang ze geen tweede team hebben is ieder team een interessante potentiële afnemers waar ze verder voor gaan dan gemiddeld.

    • + 1
    • 12 okt 2023 - 18:56
  • @Vade: krachttermen?

    @misstappen: ik niet, het startte met 919 en WalterWhite. Daar reageerde ik op

    • + 0
    • 25 okt 2023 - 17:33

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