FIA-president wil Red Bull-dominantie niet afremmen

  • Gepubliceerd op 19 okt 2023 12:08
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het team van Red Bull Racing heerst dit seizoen in de Formule 1. Alleen in Singapore wisten ze niet te winnen en ze hebben de constructeurstitel en de wereldtitel van Max Verstappen dan ook al op zak. FIA-president Mohammed Ben Sulayem wil niet ingrijpen om Red Bull af te remmen.

Red Bull oogst veel lof voor hun successen, maar er is ook kritiek. Veel fans balen namelijk van de huidige overmacht van Red Bull, want ze vinden dat de Formule 1 hierdoor te voorspelbaar wordt. Het is immers zo dat Red Bull vrijwel elk weekend wint en dat de strijd om de zege er eigenlijk niet is. Verstappen wint vrijwel elke Grand Prix en dat zorgt dus niet alleen voor complimenten. Critici willen graag zien dat de FIA ingrijpt om deze dominantie af te remmen.

FIA-president Mohammed Ben Sulayem moet er echter niet aan denken om Red Bull af te stoppen met een kunstmatige ingreep. In gesprek met Motorsport.com is Ben Sulayem duidelijk: "We hebben al eerder dit soort dominantie gezien, kijk bijvoorbeeld naar Lewis Hamilton en Michael Schumacher. Hoe we dit kunnen stoppen? Ik denk dat het niet goed is dat we succes gaan bestraffen. Ik sta open voor suggesties als je denkt dat er een eerlijke en democratische manier bestaat om dit op te lossen. We gaat Max en zijn team, of een ander team, hiervoor niet straffen."

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  • Snork

    Posts: 18.653

    De regels ongewijzigd laten is de beste remedie tegen dominantie gebleken. Uiteindelijk vlakt de ontwikkeling af en komen teams dichter bij elkaar qua performance. Het is dus aan de teams om te antwoorden, en een team als McLaren maakt daar ook merkbaar stappen in. Enige dingetje hier is dat RBR klaar is met de RB19, sinds Monza al. Dus die maken een sprong begin volgend jaar, zoals Mercedes dat in de periode 2014-2020 jaar op jaar deed.

    • + 7
    • 19 okt 2023 - 12:18
    • Denk dat de meeste f1 fans wel houden van standvastigheid en het behouden van de regelgeving.

      De meeste fans houden ook van wat spanning in de races maar daar zitten we toch al een tijdje op onze honger.

      Hoewel de BC en de restricties zeker hun merites hebben, ze weerhouden ook teams om gigantische sprongen te maken die nodig zijn om de achterstand snel in te halen.

      De FIA heeft een blunder begaan bij het overschrijden van de BC door een boete uit te schrijven ipv een reductie te doen van de BC. Centen zijn nu eenmaal snelheid in F1. De uitgesproken straf stond niet in vergelijk met de inbreuk zoals werd voorspeld door meerdere teams. Ik herinner me oa dat Brawn - voor dat er ook nog maar sprake van was van eventuele inbreuk - daar heel zware straffen en gevolgen zouden woorden aan gekoppeld. Sorry voor de RB fans en het is wat het is maar sportief was het zeker niet.

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2023 - 14:43
    • MTR-F1

      Posts: 81

      @Mr_flexible,

      Naast de boetes ook windtunneltijd straf. en met de "je bent eerste" straf hebben ze sowieso minder tijd. ze zijn efficiënt, en dat helpt. al geef je haas 10 mil meer, ze gaan er niet veel sneller door. Dat te veel van Red Bull blijft een schijntje. maar goed, dat is mijn mening, net zoals jouw mening dat de straf niet in vergelijking staat met de inbreuk ;-).


      "Hoewel de BC en de restricties zeker hun merites hebben, ze weerhouden ook teams om gigantische sprongen te maken die nodig zijn om de achterstand snel in te halen."

      *kuch* McLaren *kuch*
      Vrees dat dit statement door hun toch een beetje heel erg veel ontkracht is.

      Ik snap dat je ook de middelen moet hebben en als je geen grote geld injectie hebt gedaan in je faciliteiten de afgelopen jaren is dat nu lastiger, maar dat is een andere discussie.

      • + 3
      • 19 okt 2023 - 16:48
    • "De uitgesproken straf stond niet in vergelijk met de inbreuk zoals werd voorspeld door meerdere teams"

      En al die teams klagen over te weinig windtunneltijd maar doen opeens alsof het niet belangrijk is als Red Bull een forse reductie krijgt. Het lijkt me dus zeer onverstandig om je mening te vormen op basis van wat meerdere teams roepen. Daarnaast slaat je opmerking "zoals voorspeld" helemaal nergens op. Er is geen bewijs dat enige voorspelling is uitgekomen. Zonder die reductie in windtunneltijd was Red Bull misschien wel veel sterker geweest. Zoas je het nu brengt zou alleen een straf voldoende zijn geweest als Red Bull gegarandeerd niet meer zou kunnen winnen. Compleet buitensporig dit.

      Daarnaast is de overschrijding van Red Bull van 400K ten eerste discutabel aangezien de FIA zelf de regels voor de budgetcap gedurende het seizoen bleef veranderen. Maar belangrijker is dat dit natuurlijk totaal niks voorstelt. Er waren seizoenen dat Mercedes 40 miljoen meer uitgaf dan Red Bull en 350 miljoen meer dan Williams. Laten we nou niet ineens doen alsof nu alles oneerlijk is. In tegendeel, het speelveld is nu veel eerlijker en dan is er meer kans dat de beste winnen.

      Red Bull is zwaar gestraft voor een overtreding. Daarmee is het klaar. Anders kunnen we net zo goed blijven klagen over dat Mercedes een illegale banden test uitvoerde in 2013 of dat ze in 2021 opzettelijk de regels overtraden door iedere 2 races een nieuwe motor er in te hangen omdat het voordeel daarvan groter was dan het nadeel van de straf.

      Tot slot had Red Bull meerdere miljoenen schade door onbesuisde acties van Mercedes coureurs, dus een budget voordeel hebben ze nooit gehad.

      • + 7
      • 19 okt 2023 - 18:02
    • @Mustifeed,

      Misschien wel de waarheid vertellen.
      In 2013 heeft MB op vraag van de bandenleverancier een test uitgevoerd, dit staat zo beschreven in de regels dat dit is toegelaten (ook ander teams doen dit) en krijgen geen details over de banden zelf.
      Teams mogen onbeperkt motoren wisselen als ze de straffen aanvaarden, ook dit is geen overtreding van de regels.

      • + 1
      • 20 okt 2023 - 08:21
    • De waarheid is dat de FIA zelf heeft geconcludeerd dat Mercedes een "unfair sporting advantage" had gekregen. Ik ben niet geintresseerd in dat jij vindt dat ik het goed moet proberen te praten. Wat jij nu presenteert is NIET de waarheid, dit is wat men noemt post-hoc rationalisatie. De teams waren niet op de hoogte gesteld van de bandentest door Mercedes en hebben daarmee niet de kans gekregen om deel te nemen.

      De conclusie van de FIA was vrij duidelijk hierin en daar zal je het mee moeten doen.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2023 - 18:07
  • Die critici moeten eens nagaan of ze wel willen dat er kunstmatig wordt ingegrepen. Wat heeft een Wereldtitel te betekenen als je hem wint omdat je de tegenstander hebt laten verzwakken?
    Verstappen's eerste titel was ook het mooiste omdat RBR van een grote achterstand en een lange weg te gaan, uiteindelijk Mercedes wist te verslaan.
    Als McLaren volgend jaar wint omdat ze RBR hebben gekortwiekt, dan kunnen Norris of Piastri niet bepaald trots zijn, lijkt me.

    • + 2
    • 19 okt 2023 - 13:09
    • ILMOP

      Posts: 855

      Een titel is een titel. En dan maakt het niet uit dat de motor het heeft begeven (Schumacher in 2006) of dat een rijder in de grindbak is beland (Hamilton 2007) of dat de wedstrijdleiding een discutabele bezluit heeft genomen (Masi 2021).

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2023 - 17:14
    • En bovendien heeft de discutabele beslissing van Masi om Hamilton in ronde één van AD 2021 niet te bestraffen geen invloed op het WK gehad...

      • + 6
      • 19 okt 2023 - 19:18
    • RBR heeft in 2021 (gedeeltelijk) de titel gepakt omdat ze samen met hun vriendjes bij Honda hebben gelobbyd om aanpassing van de regels zodat Honda zou blijven om daarna toch de breuk tussen beide aan te kondigen.

      • + 0
      • 20 okt 2023 - 08:24
  • Lijkt herhaling? En naast dat zijn ze niet zo dominant...

    • + 1
    • 19 okt 2023 - 18:55
  • NicoS

    Posts: 16.770

    Wat zouden ze dan moeten doen? RBR heeft al straf omdat ze eerste zijn geworden, nog meer straffen?
    Op die manier creëer je juist geen gelijk speelveld. De regels met rust laten werkt het beste, maar zoals altijd gaan ze weer de boel volledig op de schop gooien in 2026…… begint het weer helemaal van voren af aan. Bovendien zit er niet eens zoveel verschil tussen de teams, het is al jaren geleden dat meer dan drie teams kunnen strijden voor het podium.

    • + 0
    • 19 okt 2023 - 18:59
  • Genoeg teams op de grid om dominantie om te keren. Waarom RB straffen? Goed zo, Ben!

    • + 0
    • 19 okt 2023 - 20:23

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