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Haas-protest over uitslag Amerikaanse Grand Prix afgewezen

Gepubliceerd op 09 nov 2023 16:06
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Door: Bob Plaizier

De stewards hebben de right to review van het team van Haas afgewezen. De Amerikaanse renstal was in protest gegaan tegen de uitslag van de Amerikaanse Grand Prix en ze stelden dat ze nieuw bewijs hadden gevonden. De stewards hebben hier naar gekeken, maar ze vonden het niet doorslaggevend.

Meerdere teams moesten zich via een videoverbinding melden bij de stewards om de zaak nogmaals te bespreken. Maar, het door Haas geleverd bewijs is dus door de stewards niet beoordeeld als iets wat een significant andere blik werpt op de zaak.

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Reacties (21)

HarryLam

Posts: 3.669
Er is een groot verschil tussen gelijk hebben en gelijk krijgen.
- + 3
- 9 nov 2023 - 16:14
- TylaHunter
  
  Posts: 8.802
  Wat enigszins treurig is.
  
  Veroorzaakt door incompetentie binnen de FIA, die de camera in bocht 6 na de sprintrace (of eerder) hadden kunnen vervangen. En dus bocht 6 te beoordelen was tijdens de race.
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 16:22
- marcelf1fan
  
  Posts: 336
  Ik weet het, ik ben getrouwd...
  + 7
  
  9 nov 2023 - 16:42
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @ TylaHunter
  
  "Veroorzaakt door incompetentie binnen de FIA, die de camera in bocht 6 na de sprintrace (of eerder) hadden kunnen vervangen"
  
  ----
  
  Het gaat om een cctv camere, dus van het circuit zelf.
  FIA is niet bevoegd om die zonder goedkeuring van de circuit eigenaar te vervangen.
  Het is dus ook geen incompetentie.
  + 2
  
  9 nov 2023 - 18:03
- Larry Perkins
  
  Posts: 47.777
  Het blijft incompetentie van de FIA, als zij van het circuit een camera niet mogen vervangen (waarvan ik niks geloof!) dan zou de FIA op zo'n circuit natuurlijk nooit een GP moeten organiseren. Dat zou dus... incompetent van de FIA zijn en @Tyla heeft dus wel gelijk...
  + 2
  
  9 nov 2023 - 18:22
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @ Larry Perkins
  
  "als zij van het circuit een camera niet mogen vervangen (waarvan ik niks geloof!) "
  
  ----
  
  Je gelooft maar wat je wil.
  Ik schrijf ook niet dat FIA het niet mag, ze mogen het alleen niet zonder toestemming.
  De camera werkte, maar FIA zegt dat de resoluitie van die camera niet hoog genoeg was om definitief een oordeel aan de beelden te geven.
  + 0
  
  9 nov 2023 - 18:33
- Larry Perkins
  
  Posts: 47.777
  Weer wat anders, maar het verandert niks aan de incompetentie van de FIA, die had haar zaakjes (nu dan weer de resolutie van de camera) niet voor elkaar: incompetent!
  + 4
  
  9 nov 2023 - 18:44
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @Larry Perkins
  
  "maar het verandert niks aan de incompetentie van de FIA"
  
  ----
  
  Zo incompetent, of onbekwaam is FIA blijkbaar niet, gezien Haas zijn slag niet thuis haalt.
  + 0
  
  9 nov 2023 - 18:57
- Larry Perkins
  
  Posts: 47.777
  Fijne avond nog @Stoffelman...
  + 2
  
  9 nov 2023 - 19:15
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @ Larry Perkins
  
  "Fijne avond nog @Stoffelman..."
  
  ---
  
  Bedankt.
  + 0
  
  9 nov 2023 - 19:17
- Shrek
  
  Posts: 554
  @Stoffelman Redelijk en verstandig gesteld. Maar mensen met onderbuikargumenten kunnen daar weinig mee. ;-)
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 19:32
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @ Shrek
  
  "@Stoffelman Redelijk en verstandig gesteld. Maar mensen met onderbuikargumenten kunnen daar weinig mee. ;-)"
  
  -----
  
  Argumenteren met je onderbuik is niet bepaald verstandig,
  Die onderbuik kan er ook niks mee.
  En als het jeukt moet je krabben of wassen.
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 21:39
schwantz34

Posts: 36.095
Een kapotte camera had ten aller tijde per direct vervangen moeten worden natuurlijk. Want de FIA is gewoon 100% verantwoordelijk voor de veiligheid van alle coureurs, en blijkbaar hebben ze hier gewoon een oogje dicht geknepen wat gewoon onacceptabel is met alle risico's van dien. En dan heb ik het niet over track limits, maar over serieuze inschattingsfouten van de wedstrijdleiding als er in die bocht een serieuze crash had plaatsgevonden die ze op dat moment niet konden zien, en die voor veel gevaarlijkere situatie's had kunnen zorgen zonder dat ze het zelf zagen. Dan kan je net zo goed Stevie Wonder als stuwart inzetten!
- + 1
- 9 nov 2023 - 19:52
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  @schwantz34
  
  "Een kapotte camera ...."
  
  ----
  
  Die camera was niet kapot.
  Bijgevomg ook geen veiligheidsrisico.
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 20:03
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  bijgevolg
  + 0
  
  9 nov 2023 - 20:03
- Shrek
  
  Posts: 554
  Wat heb je genomen?
  + 0
  
  12 nov 2023 - 00:09
Deoranjecamping

Posts: 2.911
Maar ze hadden toch bewijs?
- + 0
- 9 nov 2023 - 19:52
- schwantz34
  
  Posts: 36.095
  Het enige bewijs dat ze bij Haas hadden bleek een kaputte, en naar de hel meurende rioolpijp te wezen hihi.
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 21:16
- Stoffelman
  
  Posts: 5.398
  11. Haas provided no additional evidence during the hearing but reinforced its position outlined in its written submission
  
  -----
  
  Nee dus.
  + 1
  
  9 nov 2023 - 21:21
Ernie5335

Posts: 3.809
Als het mijn zaak was, zou ik niet blij zijn als ze er een ander blik op willen werpen...
- + 0
- 10 nov 2023 - 01:24
Williams_F1

Posts: 185
Jammer.
- + 0
- 24 nov 2023 - 21:04

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