Hembery: "Teams zijn verre van hulpvol bij zoektocht naar auto"

  • Gepubliceerd op 20 feb 2012 22:07
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  • Door: Robin Smeets
Pirelli is nog altijd op zoek naar een nieuwe bolide om bandentests mee uit te voeren. De Italiaanse bandenfabrikant gebruikte de afgelopen twee jaar een Toyota-auto uit 2009 voor de tests, maar door de vele reglementswijzigingen voldoet deze bolide niet meer aan de eisen. Pirelli heeft tot nu toe nog weinig medewerking van de teams ontvangen bij de zoektocht naar een nieuwe testauto, zo vertelde motorsportbaas Paul Hembery.

"We verrichten momenteel het meeste van ons werk in de simulator", begon Hembery. "Daarmee is het echter wel lastiger om aan de verschillende compounds te werken. Daarvoor heb je de interactie met het asfalt nodig. We hebben de teams om hulp gevraagd, maar zij zeggen dat we door moeten gaan met de Toyota. Dat is onzin en heeft geen zin."

"We zullen een auto uit 2010 moeten vinden die competitief en betrouwbaar was, en waarin we al onze eigen systemen kunnen bouwen om ons werk goed uit te voeren."

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  • Mirani

    Posts: 3.056

    Zelf de knoop doorhakken en een auto kopen. Ik zeg een Sauber of een Force India. Ongeveer het midden van het middenveld. Maar doen moeten die teams ook weer een auto willen verkopen aan Pirelli.

    Een andere optie is Dallara de opdracht geven om een F1 auto speciaal voor Pirelli te laten bouwen. Ik ga er dan wel vanuit dat als de zak geld groter is, dan wat Dallara heeft gekregen van HRT, dat Dallara dan wel een redelijke auto kan bouwen.

    De teams zelf zullen nooit een auto gaan leveren om de simpele reden dat zij andere belangen hebben. Het zal, denk ik, nog niet eens zozeer gaan om een concurrent geen voordeel te willen geven. Maar meer om het feit dat ze zelf meer willen testen.

    • + 0
    • 20 feb 2012 - 22:16
    • neor

      Posts: 41

      Als ik Pirelli was zou ik een Mercedes,McLaren,Red Bull of Ferrari proberen te kopen. Eén van die auto\'s kiezen en de rest is op de tenen getrapt. Binnen een week is er dan een oplossing.

      • + 0
      • 21 feb 2012 - 12:30
  • Met welke auto testte bridgestone toen hun nog bandenleverancier waren?

    Wat moet pirelli eigenlijk testen, er zijn genoeg pre-season testen plus uit de race data kunnen ze toch genoeg info vergaren?

    • + 0
    • 20 feb 2012 - 22:38
  • VDS21

    Posts: 1.265

    Toyota heeft nog wel een mooie 2010 wagen in de aanbieding die stof staat te happen. Heeft de uitlaten op de goede plek (alleen zit er nog wel een Double Diffuser aan vast).

    www.f1fanatic.co.u(...)n-gps-toyota-tf110/

    Alhowel ik dat niet snel zie gebeuren aangezien die wagen alleen een shakedowntest heeft ondergaan en voor de rest niet is getest. Maar als Pirelli genoeg geld voor handen heeft lijkt dit me wel een redelijke optie.

    • + 0
    • 21 feb 2012 - 00:31
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Die TF110 zag er toen behoorlijk snel uit. Echt jammer dat Toyota er nooit mee heeft gereden

      • + 0
      • 21 feb 2012 - 09:43
  • bridgestone heeft zijn banden in een tijdperk kunnen ontwikkelen dat er nog onbeperkt getest mocht worden, en die ferrari\'s op fiorano draaiden genoeg rondjes om daar ook es een ander setje op te zetten.
    plus dat in de begin tijd van bridgestone in de F1 ze voor ontwikkel werk ook nog een tijdje een ouwe prost hebben gebruikt in japan, ik dacht zelfs dat jos verstappen toen in japan nog rondjes heeft gereden met dat ding voor info vergaring

    • + 0
    • 21 feb 2012 - 00:40
  • harmtim

    Posts: 12

    Tja en als de blijkt dat de banden niet aan de eisen voldoen.
    Wordt er vast wel weer geklaagd.
    Bernie bemoeit zich altijd overal mee, maar op een moment dat je van hem mag verwachten dat er een knoop doorgehakt wordt. Omdat de teams het blijkbaar af laten weten geeft ie niet thuis. Echt een geval van jammer. In mijn ogen kunnen ze ook het best een auto van het middenveld pakken. Als de regelementen de eerste jaren niet wijzigen lijkt me dat een 2011 auto een goede optie is. Kunnen ze even weer vooruit.

    Groeten, Harm

    • + 0
    • 21 feb 2012 - 03:07
    • Ecclestone heeft hier niks mee te maken.

      • + 0
      • 21 feb 2012 - 14:14
    • harmtim

      Posts: 12

      Bernie, heeft met veel meer dingen niets te maken.
      Dan probeert hij alsnog te bemiddelen of te bepalen welke coureurs bij een bepaald team moeten rijden ivm marketing technisch. Even als voorbeeeld.
      Dit is nu wel in het belang van de sport en nu houd hij zich op de achtergrond? Beetje met 2 maten meten, als je het mij vraagt!

      • + 0
      • 21 feb 2012 - 14:44
  • Is toch niet zo moeilijk.

    Iereen heeft de zelfde banden.
    TEAM 1 2 en 3 kunnen met banden niet overweg.
    TEAM 4 5 en 7 kunnen er wel mee overweg en hebben betere tijden.

    Dit is geen complot teorie hé.
    Zo een man als Hembery gaat eerst bij teams 4 5 en 6 langs, hij ziet en luistert goed.
    Dan gaat hij bij team 1 2 en 3 langs.
    Dat team gaat natuurlijk vragen wat ze kunnen verbeteren, Humbery
    vertelt hen wat ze kunnen proberen.
    Als dan team 1 2 en 3 daarna betere tijden rijden.
    Denkt ander team 4 5 en 6 algauw dat Humbery hen tips hebben gegeven.
    Zelfs indien Hembery geen tips geeft aan team 1 2 en 3 zal team 4 5 en 6 dat toch niet geloven
    Daat geeft geen vertrouwen.
    Ben zelf voor verschillende banden merken.
    Wat was er zo speciaal aan die bridgstone banden.
    Worden banden voor elk team mooi netjes bij de teams afgeleverd.
    Of worden ze op één groote hoop gegooid en elke team mag eender
    welke band nemen..Alléé zoveel rode zoveel groene.....

    Grtzz.

    • + 0
    • 21 feb 2012 - 20:48
    • @F1 ANARCHIE:

      Ook ik ben een voorstander van verschillende merken banden, maar met Pirelli als leverancier hebben we helemaal niets te klagen! Onvoorstelbaar wat die gasten afleveren!

      Wat er zo speciaal was aan die Bridgestone-banden: ze waren waardeloos! Bridgestone was te druk met haar eigen reputatie en vergat dat ze ook nog moesten bijdragen aan de show. Op het laatst was het verschil tussen harde en zachte Bridgestones nihil, zowel qua snelheid als slijtage.

      • + 0
      • 21 feb 2012 - 22:14
  • Gewoon Dallara bellen of ze even een F1-spec in elkaar willen flansen. Kan niemand huilen over ongelijke behandeling. Of lekker doorgaan met de F1-09 en niet zeuren.

    • + 0
    • 21 feb 2012 - 22:15

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