Brawn verwijst argument over kosten F-duct naar rijk der fabelen

  • Gepubliceerd op 06 apr 2012 08:34
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Mercedes-teambaas Ross Brawn lacht de argumenten van de concurrentie over de uitgaven die nodig zijn om de F-duct na te maken weg. Dat is namelijk helemaal niet zo duur als ze beweren, zo stelt de Brit. Brawn: "Men heeft het over torenhoge kosten, maar dat klopt niet. Iedereen weet dat het wat karbon pijpen zijn die door de auto lopen. De man in de straat weet zelfs dat zoiets maar een paar duizend pond kost, dat loopt echt niet in de miljoenen."

Toch is dat een van de argumenten die de rivalen van Mercedes aandragen om het systeem te laten verbieden. Brawn vermoedt echter dat iets anders de concurrenten meer dwars zit. "Het is een goedkoop en simpel systeem, het is alleen wel moeilijk te implementeren als je het niet vanaf het begin hebt geïntegreerd in je auto. Daar komt wellicht de frustratie van sommige opponenten vandaan. Ons voordeel is dat we het bedacht en in het ontwerp opgenomen hebben. Het is vrij lastig om het in een auto in te bouwen. Dat kunnen sommige tegenstanders maar moeilijk verkroppen, maar dat hoort bij de Formule 1."

"We hebben alle vertrouwen dat het systeem legaal is. Al in 2010 verklaarde de FIA tijdens bijeenkomsten van de Technische Werkgroep dat een dergelijk concept toegestaan zou worden, als reactie op vragen over dit onderwerp. Wij zouden uiteraard extreem teleurgesteld zijn als iemand nu een ander standpunt inneemt, maar de FIA is vrij constant geweest en wij hebben vertrouwen dat ze niet buigen voor de druk van andere teams."

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  • Deze \'man in de straat\' vindt dat nog steeds heel veel geld en stelt als alternatief een paar PVC-buizen van de Gamma voor! ;-)

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 08:56
    • Hij bedoelde waarschijnlijk de man in de \"pitsstraat\".

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 09:55
    • Ik moest lachen +1.
      Daarbij heb je gelijk.

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 13:33
  • KensiB

    Posts: 931

    Beste heer Brawn, maak u zich niet druk om uw concurrentjes McLaren en Lotus. Deze komen op het ogenblik niet zo goed uit de verf en hebben argumenten nodig om hun tekortkomingen te verdoezelen. Wat doe je dan je tegenstanders, waar je bang voor bent, aanvallen met nietszeggende argumenten. Wat mij verbaast is dat de FIA deze jankende teams al geen boete heeft gegeven wegens telkens de FIA te belasten met deze kwestie die zij al hebben goedgekeurd. Blijf u zo doorgaan, concenteer u op uw leiderschap, die ik heel hoog aanslaat en laat Rosberg het vuile werk doen en streef er naar dat Schumacher het podium kan bestijgen en sleep op die wijze het WK naar binnen.

    MvrGr. Kensi B.

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 11:06
    • @KENSIB: gvd... moet toch niet gekker worden... McLaren komt niet goed uit de verf? 1 overwinning 2 3e plaatsen in 2 races ten opzichte van 1 punt van Mercedes???? En ohwja meneer Kensi B..., McLaren heeft laten weten dat ze niet zitten met het systeem van Mercedes. Die klachten kwamen vooral van RedBull.... Onderbouw je mening nu is met feiten in plaats van maar wat dom te lullen!!!! En ohwja nogmaals... ook Rosje Brawn gaat op deze site echt niet de berichten lezen.

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 12:11
    • @KensiB

      McLaren heeft niks tegen die F-Duct. Vanaf China verwacht ik hem op de wagen. Het zijn juist Lotus en vooral RBR die erover door blijven zeuren. En hoe kom je erbij dat McLaren en Lotus niet zo goed uit de verf komen? Wie komt dan wel goed uit de verf volgens jou? Ben ik wel eens benieuwd naar. Ferrari?

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 13:10
    • Kevin

      Posts: 5.294

      Die heeft echt een kronkel in z\'n kop. Kan niet anders.

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 14:45
    • Mirani

      Posts: 3.056

      @ L.HAMILTON
      Kensib is niet zo heel erg slim. Hij bedoeld natuurlijk Reb Bull en niet McLaren. Ook zal hij niet vinden dat Ferrari het goed doet, want hij ligt nog altijd wakker omdat, volgens Kensib, Ferrari Sauver heeft betaalt om de race te winnen. Nee, de enigen die het goed doen in de ogen van Kensib is Mercedes. Of beter gezegd, Schumacher.
      Jammer, maar het is niet anders.

      • + 0
      • 6 apr 2012 - 19:23
  • msg

    Posts: 686

    Ja en lotus blijft erover door zeuren !

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 13:00
  • felix50

    Posts: 5.792

    Als \'n prijskaartje hetgeen moet zijn om het te verbieden snap ik niet dat ze dat toendertijd niet met die dubbele diff gedaan hebben want dat was pas een flink bedrag om te ontwikkelen en in te bouwen.De meeste teams hadden dat niet .ik geloof dat er maar 3 teams waren die die het dubbele diff hadden in het begin

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 13:13
    • Klopt, en dat waren toevallig allemaal teams met Japanse connecties... De mannen van Honda hadden het bedacht, voordat ze naar Toyota gingen waardoor Williams, met de Toyota-connectie middels hun coureur, ook zo\'n ding kregen.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2012 - 06:58
  • James

    Posts: 1.653

    Het voornaamste argument is nog altijd dat het geen passief systeem is. En aangezien het geactiveerd wordt door het DRS knopje op het stuurwiel in te drukken is hier wel wat voor te zeggen vind ik. Het lijkt mij logisch dat je met de DRS knop enkel het DRS systeem activeert en geen ander systeem. Ik zou die W-duct niet eens inventief durven noemen.

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 19:15
    • Het hele DRS is niet passief, dat is ook een door de coureur bediend ærodynamisch beweegbaar onderdeel, dus die gaat al mank in mijn optiek. Juist daarom is het zo briljant bedacht.

      Dan kun je alles wel onder hand- of voetbediend gooien, het is ten slotte de coureur die de auto bestuurt en niet een computer (die dan ook weer door een mens aangezet moet worden).

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2012 - 07:01
  • Meneer Brawn. Een voorvleugel bestaat ook maar uit een paar lapjes carbon. Net als een double diffusor, voor een blown diffusor moet je nog even de hulp van een blikslager inroepen, maar hoe moeilijk kan dat nu allemaal zijn?!
    Een formule 1 motor bestaat ook maar uit een alu gietstukje met wat zuigers en kleppen, koop je zo bij de lokale Gamma.

    Ach meneer Brawn, het stelt allemaal niet veel voor die F1. Waar die teams elk jaar weer 300 miljoen aan uitgeven is meneer Brawn vast een raadsel.

    • + 0
    • 6 apr 2012 - 20:25
    • Hij zegt toch wat jij hier gewoon neertypt. Het systeem is niet duur. Het is gewoon moeilijk in te passen tijdens het seizoen en daar kunnen teams niet tegen.

      • + 0
      • 7 apr 2012 - 18:15
    • Inderdaad, Mercedes geeft ook geen € 300.000.000 uit, hooguit de helft.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2012 - 07:02
    • msg

      Posts: 686

      Altijd zeuren over geld in de F1 !!! ook het gezeur steeds over een,Maximaal budget ?ik snap niet dat dit word gedaan ...laat het toch zoals vroeger .Heb je geen geld dan hoor je niet in de Formule 1 thuis .Er word langzamerhand meer geld uitgegeven achter de schermen dan in de teams en de rijders ,ga zo door ....het formule 1 gaat met stappen achteruit dit is niets meer vergeleken met 10/20 jaar terug .

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2012 - 09:31
    • Laat het als vroeger? Goed, we gaan naar pakweg 1995. Benetton werd wereldkampioen met een budget van ongeveer 50 miljoen, het budget van een team als HRT op dit moment. Snap je het nu?

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2012 - 20:13
  • msg

    Posts: 686

    (Runningupthathill 08 Apr 2012 20:13

    Laat het als vroeger? Goed, we gaan naar pakweg 1995. Benetton werd wereldkampioen met een budget van ongeveer 50 miljoen, het budget van een team als HRT op dit moment. Snap je het nu?)

    Ik denk dat je eerst eens moet leren lezen ? voor dat je zoon onnozel antwoord geeft!!!!!!

    • + 0
    • 9 apr 2012 - 17:48

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