Ferrari geeft verzet tegen 'engine freeze' niet snel op

  • Gepubliceerd op 13 nov 2014 10:56
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Ferrari zal de inspanningen om meer ontwikkeling aan de motoren toe te staan niet zomaar staken. Dat stelt teambaas Marco Mattiacci. De Scuderia pleit al geruime tijd voor een versoepeling van de engine freeze. Gesprekken daarover leverden in Brazilië niet het gewenste resultaat op. Ferrari en Renault zitten niet op één lijn met Mercedes.

Mattiacci blijft hoopvol voor een compromis. "We gaan door met dit bespreken. Sommige spelers in dit spel veranderen telkens van mening, maar wij zetten het werk voort. Wij geven het fundamentele principe dat Formule 1 draait om innovatie en concurrentie niet snel op. Blijkbaar is niet iedereen het erover eens dat deze sport vernieuwing als een van de kernwaarden heeft."

"Tegelijkertijd waarderen we het feit dat iedereen een middenweg probeert te vinden. Wat we proberen te veranderen moet voor ons allemaal aanvaardbaar zijn. We vragen de anderen dan ook om niet weg te lopen van de onderhandelingstafel. Iedereen wil een betere situatie, alleen de manier waarop is nog niet duidelijk. Als Ferrari blijven we ons best doen in het belang van de Formule 1."

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  • Wij geven het fundamentele principe dat Formule 1 draait om innovatie en concurrentie niet snel op. Blijkbaar is niet iedereen het erover eens dat deze sport vernieuwing als een van de kernwaarden heeft.

    Mercedes: Blijkbaar is niet iedereen het erover eens dat de kosten voor de kleine teams niet nog hoger op moeten lopen..

    En zo gaan we voorlopig nog wel even verder :) Het zal allemaal tevergeefs zijn van Renault en Ferrari. Als die 2 al die moeite in het ontwikkelen van hun 2015 auto hadden gestoken inplaats door drammen met dit gezeur, dan hadden ze misschien al op het niveau van Mercedes kunnen komen LOL

    Achja, ik blijf het logisch vinden dat Mercedes dit blijft blokkeren, ze hebben het de volle rechten om dat te doen. En waarom maak je afspraken en regels met elkaar om dat vervolgens even later te willen veranderen? Dat is sowieso al onlogisch. Zal uitzweten worden voor Ferrari en Renault. Laat het een goede les voor ze zijn voor de volgende keer.

    • + 0
    • 13 nov 2014 - 12:56
    • Ferrari en Renault blijven zeuren in hun eigenbelang en gooien het op innovatie en ontwikkeling van de sport. Mercedes blijft op zijn beurt in eigenbelang volhouden om dit te blijven blokkeren en gooit het op nog hogere oplopende kosten.. Als Ferrari of Renault in de positie van Mercedes had gezeten dan hadden die nu in de schoenen van Mercedes gestaan met dezelfde standpunten. En mocht Mercedes in de positie van Renault of Ferrari gestaan hebben dan was Mercedes nu met dezelfde standpunten van die teams aan het zeuren geweest. Conclussie: Dit alles gaat alleen maar over frustratie in eigen belangen..

      Dan ga je kijken naar de regels en afspraken die met elkaar gemaakt zijn, en dan is het niet zo gek dat er ook daadwerkelijk niks veranderd gaat worden tot het moment dat de regels en afspraken het weer toe laten..

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2014 - 13:05
    • Mercedes kan het hooguit nog voor 2015 tegenhouden omdat er nu nog unanimiteit moet zijn bij het stemmen over wijzigingen in de regelementen, maar volgend jaar is dat niet meer zo en wordt het meeste stemmen gelden. Dan trekken ze toch aan het kortste eind. Ja dr zijn afspraken gemaakt, en ze hebben gewoon hun huiswerk het beste gedaan. Die afspraken zijn gewoon niet zo slim geweest omdat men op die manier de kosten in de hand wilde houden maar blijkbaar geen rekening hielden met het scenario dat er weleens een fabrikant met kop en schouders bovenuit zou steken zoals nu het geval is. Ze hadden veel beter een maximumprijs voor een klantenmotor kunnen vaststellen om e.e.a. betaalbaar te houden voor de kleinere teams.

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      • 13 nov 2014 - 15:02
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Als het echt om de innovatie gaat kan ik ze alleen maar gelijk geven, ik vond het al direct vreemd dat met een nieuwe motorformule er een engine freeze wordt ingesteld. Er zal zeker een deel voor eigen parochie geluld worden, dat doen ze allemaal. Maar men moet ook niet vergeten dat de 4 jaar dominantie van RB fans hebben gekost, als Mercedes zo bezig blijft kost het ook weer fans. Dus hoe dan ook zal er naar een oplossing moeten worden gekeken in mijn ogen.

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    • 13 nov 2014 - 14:02
  • myell

    Posts: 101

    Weet je wat het is ik denk dat sowieso meer dan de helft van de f1 supporters de dominantie van mercedes al helemaal zat zijn, daarom zal er dus wel wat moeten veranderen wil de f1 niet nog meer fans kwijt raken. Het wordt gewoon tijd dat er weer eens een ferrari gaat winnen en dat hoeft niet eens een kampioenschap te zijn maar gewoon een aantal races, ferrari heeft de meeste supporters dus daarom is het goed voor de sport dat er weer eens een ferrari wint. niemand zit om nog zon seizoen als dit te wachten.

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    • 13 nov 2014 - 14:02
    • ives

      Posts: 1.255

      Dat valt eigenlijk best mee. Het is alweer even geleden dat er zo'n coureursstrijd was.

      Ofwel heb je 1 dominant team met een duidelijke eerste rijder en als die de zaakjes op orde hebben, weet je wie er gaat winnen (Schumacher, Vettel). Of je hebt een tweestrijd zoals tussen Ferrari en McLaren een aantal jaren, waarbij altijd 1 van de twee teams de beste wagen van dat circuit heeft en je de uitslag ook wel kon voorspellen.

      Nu zijn de Merc's wel sterk, maar de rijders zijn uitermate gewaagd aan elkaar en dat zorgt best voor spannende races in mijn ogen!

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      • 13 nov 2014 - 15:00
  • Ik weet zeker dat de motorfabrikanten vol gas door ontwikkelen op de fabriek. Met dat verschil dat ze hun werk niet op een baan kunnen testen.
    Dat is, denk ik, ook de (geldige) reden dat Ferrrari schermt dat het, volgens eigen berekeningen, (qua ontwikkeling) niet duurder hoeft uit te pakken. Alleen de fabricage kosten zullen hoger zijn.

    Vanaf volgende wintertest mogen ze weer vrij veel veranderingen toepassen op de motor. Enkele items zijn al gehomologeerd maar in het kader van "betrouwbaarheid" misschien nog aan te passen. Deze ontwikkelingen zijn het resultaat van een heel jaar R&D. Niet van een paar maanden in de winter je torretje aanpassen aan de lessen geleerd van afgelopen jaar.

    Daarom snap ik ook veel communicatie naar buiten toe van de fabrikanten niet. Wees gewoon transparant en doe niet net alsof je pas va de eerste wintertest met iets nieuws zou kunnen komen. Natuurlijk, wel qua test op de baan in je auto, maar gegarandeerd al lang doorontwikkeld op de testbank.

    Hoe kijken jullie hier tegenaan?

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    • 13 nov 2014 - 15:09
    • Ik weet niet of er ook ontwikkeld wordt op onderdelen die buiten de freeze vallen want het is niet zo dat er helemaal niks ontwikkeld mag worden binnen de freeze, alleen zijn er beperkingen. Waarom zou je onderdelen doorontwikkelen waarvan je weet dat ze volgens de regelementen niet meer gewijzigd mogen worden.
      Ik denk dat de kosten op zich wel wat zullen oplopen als een ontwikkelingsprogramma uitgebreider wordt. Maar dat er tussentijds wordt ontwikkeld op alles wat er binnen valt, ja dat denk ik zeker wel. Dat moet ook wel anders komen ze veel te laat met de toegestane updates.
      Wat je zegt over communicatie ben ik met je eens, dat lijkt op een slecht toneelstukje van het niveau Jan Klaasen poppenkast.

      • + 0
      • 13 nov 2014 - 16:19

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