Honda brengt FIA aan het twijfelen over engine freeze

  • Gepubliceerd op 07 jan 2015 12:15
  • comments 18
  • Door: Rob Veenstra
De internationale autosportbond FIA heeft de bezwaren van Honda aangehoord en beraadt zich op zijn positie inzake de engine freeze. De federatie heeft erkend dat de motorleveranciers door een maas in de wet dit jaar updates voor hun krachtbronnen kunnen introduceren, maar dat geldt alleen voor Mercedes, Ferrari en Renault. Honda moet als nieuwkomer voor eind februari de V6 turbo laten homologeren.

Daar is de Japanse autofabrikant het niet mee eens en dat hebben ze bij een bijeenkomst in Genève duidelijk gemaakt, zo bericht Autosprint. De FIA heroverweegt haar standpunt in deze kwestie en zal over twee weken, bij de volgende vergadering met de motorleveranciers, meer duidelijkheid verschaffen. Marca ving van een woordvoerder van Honda op dat de Japanse autofabrikant boos en teleurgesteld is in de gang van zaken tot nu toe.

Ze hebben nog een andere troef in handen als de FIA niet op de eerdere beslissing terug komt. Plan B van Honda bestaat er uit dat McLaren bij elke update aan de motoren van Ferrari, Mercedes of Renault een protest indient. De Britse renstal beroept zich daarbij dan op het feit dat het niet toegestaan is om meerdere gehomologeerde aandrijflijnen per seizoen te gebruiken.

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  • tjaaaaakkkaaaaaaa

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 12:28
    • Ik zij het toch, dit pikken zij niet. De FIA moet bakzeil gaan halen, anders zitten zij in het seizoen 2015 met alleen maar rechtzaken opgescheept.

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 17:27
  • Ja het was te verwachten dat ze gingen miepen die Jappen.
    Geeft de FIA Honda wel de ruimte dadelijk om verder door te ontwikkelen dan gaat de rest weer zitten miepen.
    Kan nog leuk worden dit.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 12:29
    • Enigste oplossing....vrijgeven die handel, met als dwangmiddel het gratis leveren van motoren aan mindere teams.

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 17:28
  • Honda is al net zo lang als de overige fabrikanten bezig om de V6 te ontwikkelen. 2014 sloegen ze bewust over om de kat uit de boom te kijken bij de andere teams en op hun eigen tempo door te kunnen ontwikkelen om zo in 2015 gelijk mee te kunnen doen met de rest.

    Nu de huidige regels hun iets minder uitkomen (een definitief ontwerp inleveren voor 28 februari), net zoals de huidige fabrikanten vorig jaar moesten en deze het eerste jaar niet aangepast mag worden beginnen ze te miepen.

    Beetje jammer allemaal. Aan de andere kant zijn ze ook gek als ze niet protesteren, omdat ze er ongetwijfeld nadeel van kunnen hebben natuurlijk.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 12:38
    • jderp

      Posts: 445

      Ze hebben echter geen volledig seizoen hun motor in een auto kunnen testen en dat is een achterstand van formaat die je echt niet zomaar goed maakt omdat je de concurrent hebt kunnen bestuderen. Dat hebben Ferrari en Renault toch ook gekund? Beetje onzin argument als je het mij vraagt.

      Kijk maar naar de eerste test in Abu Dhabi die net zo slecht verliep als de eerste wintertest van de andere fabrikanten. Als het echt zo'n enorm voordeel was hadden ze wel geen problemen van dat formaat gekend.

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 14:07
    • Dat bedoel ik dus JDERP. Honda heeft gewed en nu dus blijkbaar verloren.
      Ik kan me de berichten nog goed herinneren waarin Honda verklaarde het rustig aan te doen, de kunst af te kijken bij de concurrentie en in 2015 gelijk vooraan mee te doen.

      De huidige fabrikanten hebben zich lelijk verkeken op het motorenconcept. Met Renault en Ferrari voorop, maar ook Mercedes heeft echt wel wat kopzorgen gehad in de aanloop naar en gedurende het seizoen 2014.

      Let wel, ik heb echt niets tegen Honda (misschien een klein beetje tegen Alonso :P) en zou het erg gaaf vinden als we een extra team hebben die weer vooraan mee doet. Maar ik vrees dat het een zwaar seizoen voor Honda/McLaren gaat worden.

      Op naar de eerste tests :)

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 16:06
  • Hier komt nog een staartje aan

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 12:39
  • redo

    Posts: 57

    Honda moet voor eind februari homologeren dus zal waarschijnlijk over twee weken de beslissing vallen dat de rest dit ook moet gaan doen.
    Dit is het meest waarschijnlijke scenario omdat de tegenhanger hiervan het complete opheffen van de engine freeze is.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 12:45
    • Waarschijnlijk wordt dat de uitkomst van dit schaakspel.

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 13:04
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Ergens logisch dat Honda er tegenin zou gaan. Maar aan de andere kant zijn het de regels van de FIA, zij hebben die ook kunnen inzien en de FIA op kunnen wijzen. Daarbij heeft Honda natuurlijk ook een klein voordeel doordat hun langer de motor hebben kunnen ontwikkelen.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 13:20
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Als er 1 sport is waarbij de regels "vloeibaar" onder druk blijken te zijn, dan is het de F1 wel.

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 13:38
  • jderp

    Posts: 445

    Niet meer dan terecht als de andere teams hun motor ook niet mogen updaten door het seizoen heen. Ik snap heel goed dat met name Ferrari niet wil dat Vettel van de regen in de drup valt en mercedes haar voorsprong ten koste van alles wil behouden maar als je ervoor wil zorgen dat nieuwe en toekomstige motorfabrikanten en constructeurs hard gillend weg rennen van de formule 1 moet je het seizoen beginnen met deze belachelijke maas in de wet.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 14:04
  • Zo werkt Honda al dertig jaar, Kijk maar naar de motogp

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 14:50
    • Bravo. Dit is je 2e reactie in korte tijd die uit meer dan 3 woorden bestaat. Ga zo door :-)

      • + 0
      • 7 jan 2015 - 15:26
  • Senna014

    Posts: 511

    Een ding is wel weer duidelijk, de FIA heeft er weer eens een puinhoop van gemaakt. Had men de regels gewoon waterdicht gemaakt, dan had heel deze discussie met oneerlijke oplossingen er niet geweest. Je zou toch verwachten dat men bij de FIA na de talloze eerdere soortgelijke incidenten wel experts rond hebben lopen die regels waterdicht kunnen maken. Anderzijds misschien maar goed dat dit gebeurd, zo blijft er extra ruimte voor innovatieve teams!

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 15:00
  • Thuru

    Posts: 348

    Beste is gewoon die hele freeze af te schaffen. Het is tenslotte F1.

    • + 0
    • 7 jan 2015 - 16:18
    • AyrtonS

      Posts: 3.984

      Dan zou de F1 eerder kapot gaan door een motorwedloop met de daarbij horende extremere kosten.
      Honda moet niet miepen, ze hebben 2 jaar kunnen ontwikkelen en heel 2014 de innovaties kunnen spieken van de rest. En dat allemaal in alle rust kunnen doen.
      Op voorhand al gaan klagen, terwijl ze nog niet eens weten waar ze staan getuigd niet echt van vertrouwepn in eigen kracht en kwaliteit.
      Strak mag Honda wat ze willen en zijn ze sterken dan de andere teams, wat dan?

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      • 9 jan 2015 - 23:17

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