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Tost: "Voordelen van klantenauto's overschat"

Tost: "Voordelen van klantenauto's overschat"

  • Gepubliceerd op 04 jun 2015 10:59
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De invoering van klantenauto's zal geen drastische kostenverlaging in de Formule 1 teweeg brengen. Dat stelt Scuderia Toro Rosso-teambaas Franz Tost in gesprek met Motorsport.com. De topteams bestuderen hoe het concept van klantenauto's in te vullen. Tost is sceptisch.

"Het is ongetwijfeld gunstig voor nieuwkomers in de Formule 1, zoals het voor Toro Rosso ook was om terug te kunnen vallen op Red Bull Racing in de eerste jaren. Mij bekruipt echter het gevoel dat de voordelen van klantenauto's schromelijk worden overschat. Het is niet zo goedkoop als men denkt, onderschat de kosten die eraan vastkleven niet."

"Om als klantenteam competitief te zijn dien je de auto in te kopen bij een van de topteams. En die werken op het hoogste niveau. Niet alleen wat betreft de technische kant, maar ook wat betreft het kostenplaatje. Ze zullen een hoge prijs vragen voor hun pakket, het zal duur zijn. Klantenauto's zijn nergens goed voor", aldus Tost.

skibeest

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Helemaal mee eens

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  • 4 jun 2015 - 11:06
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  • skibeest

    Posts: 1.540

    Helemaal mee eens

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    • 4 jun 2015 - 11:06
  • JaapB

    Posts: 1.233

    Ik denk dat het wel voordelen kan bieden maar dat dit niet overhaast ingevoerd moet worden en moet kijken hoe je om gaat met de teams die je nu hebt. Welke vrijheid krijgen de klantenteams in het ontwikkelen van hun auto's?
    Volgens mij moet je er naar toe gaan dat je alles van motor tot versnellingsbak levert samen met een chassis als ontwerp en dan zeggen van kijk maar wat je ermee doet.

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    • 4 jun 2015 - 11:36
    • iOosterbaan

      Posts: 1.743

      Waarom denken er zoveel mensen dat we deze proef nogmaals moeten doen. Indycar is er destijds al volledig aan kapot gegaan en er bleven slechts 2 fabrikanten over die de auto's bouwden. Vervolgens kregen ze ook nog de afsplitsing CART / IRL en ging het helemaal nergens meer over. Terwijl daarvoor de Indycar een behoorlijk alternatief was voor de F1 met bijna net zoveel constructeurs.

      F1 is een sport voor constructeurs en dat moet het blijven. Anders blijven er op termijn maar een paar bouwers over en stelt de F1 echt niets meer voor. Ik zeg niet dat er niet genoeg verandert kan / moet worden. Maar geen klanten auto's!!

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      • 4 jun 2015 - 22:07
  • bobdeboarder

    Posts: 151

    Waarom zou de F1 klanten auto's willen ? Het is niet de oplossing om de grid beter gevuld te krijgen op het hoogste niveau.
    Als de kosten overzichtelijk zijn, de competitie hoog en de opbrengsten zodanig dat je de grote automerken kunt interesseren dan ben je op de goede weg.
    Eerst zal er schoon schip gemaakt moeten als bij de FIFA hopelijk nu ook gaat gebeuren.

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    • 4 jun 2015 - 11:39
    • Mr Marly

      Posts: 7.310

      Schoonschip of een herstructurering binnen de F1 zie ik niet snel gebeuren. Persoonlijk zie ik liever 26 wagens waarvan 4/5 teams met klanten-wagens rijden dan dat er van de huidige 10 teams er 3/4 op haast omvallen staan. Budget cap gaat er niet komen, herverdeling macht en (prijzen)geld zie ik niet gebeuren en een goede samenwerking tussen de teams en FIA in het belang van de sport is er ook niet.
      Vergeet niet dat de huidige regelementen ervoor zouden moeten zorgen dat meer fabrikanten zouden toetreden, als je dan ziet hoe Honda het doet (dat zijn echt geen koekenbakkers) moedig je daar weinig fabrikanten mee aan. Of je moet willen blijven wachten op de knipperlicht flirt van de VAG.
      Ik vind het een optie om te bekijken waard probeer het voor een x aantal seizoenen, tot het moment dat de sport weer (financieel)gezond is, en schaf het dan weer eventueel af.
      Ik denk dat het de sport ten goede kan komen. Meer wagens dus meer spektakel. Meerdere coureurs en teams met verschilende nationaliteiten is meer kijkers dus aantrekkelijker voor sponsoren.
      De invulling en het kostenplaatje hiervan zal erg van belang zijn.

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      • 4 jun 2015 - 13:34
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Alles kost geld dus een klantenauto ook. Voordeel is dat je weet wat je koopt en niet alles zelf hoeft te ontwikkelen. Tost voorziet onaangename concurrentie van b-Ferrari's en b-Mercedessen. Niet echt fijn als je zelf een flutmotor hebt.
    Ik weet zeker dat het altijd goedkoper is dan zelf een heel nieuwe auto ontwikkelen. Bovendien weet je dan dat het een redelijk goede auto is. Daar ligt dus wel meerwaarde.

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    • 4 jun 2015 - 13:01
    • FlipfluitketelF1

      Posts: 868

      Enige probleem is dat er eigenlijk twee kampioenschappen gehouden gaan worden.
      aan de ene kant de fabrikanten( Ferrari,Mercedes,Renault,Honda) aan de andere kant de klantenteams.
      En wat gaat er gebeuren als een van de klantenteams het beter doet dan de fabrikanten team?
      Worden dan alle monteurs daar weggekocht of krijgen ze een B-Spec die het slechter doet dan de fabrieksteam?
      Allemaal vragen waar Tost dan toch gelijk in krijgt van mij.

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      • 4 jun 2015 - 13:40
  • Jenssie

    Posts: 739

    In de MotoGP doen ze het al f met klantenmotoren. Ik was eerst behoorlijk sceptisch, maar het werkt best aardig. Ze hebben een voller veld, met een competitief middenveld, dat soms zelfs de fabrieksteams het lastig kan maken. En er zijn altijd 2 à 3 teams een klap beter dan de rest, dus die tweedeling heb je altijd.
    Liever dan een middenveld dat op een financieel gezonde manier kan rondrijden. Voordeel daarvan is dat echt talent ook weer meer een kans krijgt. Pay-drivers zul je altijd wel houden, maar misschien niet meer zoveel als nu

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