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McLaren tegen Honda: "Vergeet cultuurverschil"

McLaren tegen Honda: "Vergeet cultuurverschil"

  • Gepubliceerd op 07 jul 2015 15:09
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Het team van McLaren is van plan om iets meer van partner Honda te eisen. De wittebroodsweken zijn voorbij, de Japanse autofabrikant zal spoedig stappen moeten zetten met de aandrijflijn. McLaren biedt zelf hulp aan en er gaan stemmen op om Honda ervaren personeel van buitenaf aan te laten trekken. Dat druist wel in tegen de Japanse cultuur.

Honda wil het liefst zelf de problemen oplossen, om gezichtsverlies te vermijden. Eric Boullier van McLaren tegenover Motorsport.com: "Die cultuurverschillen dienen we overboord te gooien en te vergeten. Dit is de Formule 1. Dit is racen. Als je Formule 1 doet, dan doe je dat om de Formule 1 te doen, of je nou Afrikaans, Engels of Japans bent. In de Formule 1 moet je de dingen volgens de wetten van de Formule 1 en het vereiste Formule 1-niveau doen. En niet anders."

"Het is geen kwestie van frustratie, we gaan alleen steeds gedetailleerder vragen stellen aan Honda. Het is duidelijk dat we veel performance tekort komen. Het is zaak om daar een oplossing voor te verzinnen. Het is niet zo dat we gefrustreerd raken, we zeggen alleen wat er gaande is. Dat met de insteek om er samen beter van te worden."

Pietje2013

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Volgens mij maken ze nog steeds historie. Iets van slechtste seizoen ooit van McLaren.

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  • 7 jul 2015 - 17:36
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  • Maximiliaan

    Posts: 2.969

    Je praat hier wel over Japanners, weetjewel, van de kamikazenpiloten en eer voor je vaderland. Dat is al eeuwen zo. Dat kan Boellier wel willen veranderen maar dat kan voor wrijving gaan zorgen. Men wist toch sowieso dat dit jaar niks werd ?

    • + -2
    • 7 jul 2015 - 15:31
    • Mojito

      Posts: 4.843

      Precies!

      Het zou slimmer geweest zijn als Bouillier zijn mond hierover had gehouden en dit aan Ron Dennis overlaat.

      Dennis kent uit zijn roemruchte McLaren/Honda verleden het klappen van de zweep binnen de Japanse werkhierarchie uitstekend, en is dus dé man om de relatie met Honda te managen.

      De wijze waarop Bouillier nu begint is de RBR versus Renault methode, en waar dat daar al voor veel wrijving zorgt gaat dat met Japanners helemaal niet goed komen.

      • + 0
      • 7 jul 2015 - 15:38
    • fre0n

      Posts: 538

      De Mclaren PR afdeling ging voor de testdagen toch echt vanuit dat ze geschiedenis gingen schrijven als topteam met honda. #MakingHistory #McLarenHonda enzo. Maar daar zie je nu niet zoveel meer van terug ;)

      • + 0
      • 7 jul 2015 - 15:59
    • Pietje2013

      Posts: 8.974

      Volgens mij maken ze nog steeds historie. Iets van slechtste seizoen ooit van McLaren.

      • + 1
      • 7 jul 2015 - 17:36
    • iOosterbaan

      Posts: 1.743

      en als iemand roept dat iets geen frustratie is, dan is het meestal....frustratie...

      • + 0
      • 7 jul 2015 - 19:04
    • Beemerdude

      Posts: 7.082

      Nee, het hele jaar zo modderen, dan lijdt je geen gezichtsverlies...?

      Wel weer typisch Boullier; op de momenten dat ie zich stil moet houden hoor je hem en als ie wat moet zeggen geeft ie niet thuis. Onbegrijpelijk, zo'n incompetente zak hooi als teambaas/stroman van Ron Dennis...

      • + -1
      • 7 jul 2015 - 20:28
  • Richardt.

    Posts: 1.531

    Ik mag toch hopen dat er al wel wat motoren specialisten van McLaren, met jarenlange Mercedes ervaring, aan de slag zijn bij Honda en daar hun zegje hebben.

    Als Honda echt alles zelf wil gaan doen dan denk ik dat we ze ook voor volgend seizoen kunnen afschrijven.

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 15:41
    • F1VANDAAG

      Posts: 85

      De verhaal van Boy Haye@ blijkt te kloppen honda muggen heeft Gilles Simon in dienst in engeland deze voormalige ferrari motorchef is werkzaam vanaf 2014 muggen , de geruchten zijn dat Craig Pollock de Pure V6 Turbo aan honda heeft verkocht daarvoor de aanwezigheid van Simon.

      • + -1
      • 7 jul 2015 - 19:06
    • Kwalonso

      Posts: 105

      @F1VANDAAG

      "muggen"? :D

      Vliegende insecten uit de orde tweevleugeligen en de onderorde muggen (Nematocera)?

      Of bedoel je Mugen?

      Een historisch merk van motorfietsen. Japans bedrijf dat zeer strakke banden met Honda heeft, en ook wordt geleid door Hirotoshi Honda, zoon van Soichiro Honda?

      • + 0
      • 8 jul 2015 - 08:40
  • fre0n

    Posts: 538

    Is dat geen harakiri van McLaren ?

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 15:57
    • Silversource

      Posts: 373

      Oftewel harrykerry op z'n Brits. :)

      • + 0
      • 7 jul 2015 - 16:15
  • NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH

    Posts: 13.929

    Dit zou Bouillier zelfs de kop kunnen kosten...

    • + -7
    • 7 jul 2015 - 16:16
  • Prometheus

    Posts: 1.412

    Lol 'het is geen kwestie van frustratie..' volgens mij is bovenstaande opmerking 1 en al frustratie...Ik denk dat er tussen RBR renault meer communicatie is dan tussen Mclaren Honda...als je het over verschil in culturen moet gaan hebben, dan is er pas echt een probleem...

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 16:23
  • Alfie

    Posts: 1.052

    Weg met die 'motorbevriezing' en Honda zal (met Japanners) snel aansluiting vinden. Nu is het onbegonnen werk.

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 18:36
  • Shrek

    Posts: 554

    Honda zal vast met heel veel plezier Mercedes in de gaten houden..... Door Brawn voor $1,00 overgenomen van hun. "Making history"...

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 20:18
  • James

    Posts: 1.653

    de lijst van de speed traps is elk weekend weer triestig om zien, ze komen gewoon 20 km/u tekort op de rechte stukken t.o.v. de concurrentie

    • + 0
    • 7 jul 2015 - 21:45
  • Ben Dover

    Posts: 2.105

    Iemand bekend met de Akita? Da's een Japans hondenras. Je kunt zoveel eisen als je wilt, maar 'in the end' doet zo'n beest gewoon wat 'ie wil of waar 'ie het nu van inziet. Zo zijn die Japanners zelf ook denk ik. EB kan roepen totdat hij een ons weegt... Vul zelf maar in.

    • + 0
    • 8 jul 2015 - 02:20
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Het is tevens een hondenras die voor het vuur gaat en ondanks hun verraderlijk vriendelijke uiterlijk een uiterst gevaarlijk vechthondenras.
      Om daar alles uit te halen moet je stabiel, eerlijk consequent en oprecht zijn.
      Datzelfde geldt voor Honda. Een duurzame relatie kost tijd en energie van beide kanten.
      In tegenstelling tot Renault werken de Japanners gewoon keihard door en investeren wel in nieuwe techniek en partners. Als de boel daar straks draait heb je een fantastische partner die nog weet wat loyaliteit is.
      Midden in de crisis stond Honda (net als andere fabrikanten) zelfs bijna op omvallen. Maar ze wilden hun team en partners en werknemers niet kapot laten vallen en gaven Brawn daarom gratis het team ter overname incl financien om het nog even uit te zingen. Dat ze de oogst misten na jarenlang gezaaid te hebben was zuur maar ze moesten overleven. Respect hebben ze daarentegen altijd gegeven en ook altijd verdiend. Daar kunnen een hoop andere teams en fabrikanten nog een voorbeeld aan nemen.

      • + 1
      • 8 jul 2015 - 14:18
    • Ben Dover

      Posts: 2.105

      @Rimmer

      Ook een akita in huis? ;)

      • + 0
      • 8 jul 2015 - 17:37
  • gp

    Posts: 4.711

    De eerste barsten in de samenwerking worden zichtbaar. Hoe gaat dit aflopen? Ik verwachtte zoals zovelen dat ze niet direct met de top zouden meedoen maar niemand had verwacht dat het zo slecht zou zijn. Arme Alonso en Button, die zagen dit ook niet aankomen. laat die bevriezing nou los jongens, Mercedes zal dit wel aankunnen. Als ze in staat zijn geweest om zo'n verbluffend staaltje techniek neer te zetten zullen ze het ook wel aankunnen om weerwoord te geven als de anderen inlopen. Ze hebben ook nog eens een heel goed rijders duo. Zeker een Hamilton hoeft niet perse de beste auto te hebben om WK te worden. Ik hoop dat Mercedes (en Ferrari, die staan ook al ver met hun motor) de bevriezing los laten.

    • + 0
    • 8 jul 2015 - 07:53
  • Maximiliaan

    Posts: 2.969

    Waarom wordt NBTT zoveel gemint? Niks mis met zijn reactie toch ?

    • + 0
    • 8 jul 2015 - 11:10
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Nee maar sommigen kunnen hem verbaal niet aan en beperken zich tot standaard minnen. Flip heeft bewezen meerdere accounts te hebben en hoe harder hij anderen daarvan beschuldigt (wat hij maar blijft doen) des te groter de kans dat er wederom mee bezig is. Dat verkaart mogelijk ook de vele standaard minnen die NBTT krijgt.

      • + 0
      • 8 jul 2015 - 14:20

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