Formule 1 bespreekt toestaan van oude motoren

  • Gepubliceerd op 10 sep 2015 10:35
  • comments 25
  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De Strategy Group komt maandag weer bijeen en een van de punten op de agenda is in elk geval het toestaan van één jaar oude motoren. Dat meldt Autosport. Op dit moment is het zo dat de teams verplicht zijn om met een krachtbron uit de lopende jaargang aan de start te verschijnen. Alleen Manor kreeg voor dit seizoen dispensatie en rijdt met de Ferrari V6 uit 2014.

Appendix 4 in de reglementen schrijft voor dat de teams met ongeveer hetzelfde materiaal moeten acteren, om nog enigszins gelijkheid te waarborgen. Daar komt mogelijk dus verandering in. Bronnen informeerden Autosport dat een aanpassing van de regels aanstaande is om verschillende specificaties van de aandrijflijnen toe te staan. Dat zou in de praktijk betekenen dat Manor in 2016 met Mercedes-motoren uit 2015 kan deelnemen.

Wellicht dat daardoor het kostenplaatje voor de krachtbronnen verandert. De oudere motoren zullen minder kosten dan de nieuwste versie. Op dit moment tellen klantenteams tussen de 15 en 20 miljoen pond neer voor de krachtbronnen, terwijl dat met de V8 slechts 7 miljoen pond bedroeg.

Bob Fernley, vice-teambaas bij Force India: "We praten al langer over de mogelijkheden om oudere motoren toe te staan. Fundamenteel is het hetzelfde als wat Manor dit jaar doet, zij rijden nu al met krachtbronnen uit 2014. Alleen nemen we het dan in de reglementen op. Het is in elk geval een discussiepunt."

hmmm, ben ik de enige die al V12 geluiden hoorde na het lezen van de kop? ;-)

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  • 10 sep 2015 - 11:01

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  • opzich een interessant concept voor de wat kleinere teams zeker omdat ze dan kosten kunnen besparen en meer kans hebben te overleven

    • + 0
    • 10 sep 2015 - 10:40
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      Het betekent dat het een tweeklassen wedstijd gaat worden. Zoiets als bij Le Mans, LMP1 en LMP2...

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 12:07
    • Ik zou niet weten waarom. Vroeger was dit een standaard manier om van oude motoren af te raken. Sauber heeft jaren met een jaar-oude Ferrarimotoren gereden.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 13:09
  • Zullen ze bij RBR niet leuk vinden.

    • + 0
    • 10 sep 2015 - 10:45
    • Vooral niet als Renault volgend jaar hetzelfde vermogen heeft als de ferrari motor van dit jaar. Dan hebben ze 100miljoen weg gegooid.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:04
    • Tifoso

      Posts: 2.985

      Ja of het wordt weer huilen met de pet op. Het vertrouwen is er niet meer, nadat ze afgelopen winter niet in geslaagd zijn om een stap voorwaarts te maken.
      Je kan hopen dat het komende winter wel lukt, maar als de vertrouwen er niet is dan is het beter dat ze uitelkaar gaan.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:12
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      Dit zullen ze bij RB en TR niet leuk gaan vinden, maar Ferrari zal dit wel toejuichen.

      Ik juich het ook toe, ik ben namelijk absoluut geen van RB. Ik zit ook niet te wachten op weer dominante jaren van dat team. Ik heb nooit iets tegen Vettel gehad, maar wel iets tegen het gejank van RB.

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      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:13
    • Tifoso

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      PS. waarom zullen ze het niet leuk vinden. Het zal worden toegestaan, niet verplicht. Als RBR en STR de nieuwste motoren kunnen betalen dan kunnen ze die ook krijgen. Maar die worden wel belast met de ontwikkelkosten, terwijl de oudere motoren alleen met productie kosten belast worden en een beetje ondersteuning.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:23
  • Die 7 miljoen pond voor de V8 was ook alleen maar nadat de FIA had afgedwongen dat de fabrikanten nog maar de helft rekenden voor die motoren.

    Op zich natuurlijk een prima idee, want die achterhoede teams hebben toch niets aan de meest recente motor. Sowieso zal de verbetering van de motor steeds minder groot worden van seizoen op seizoen omdat ze ook steeds minder mogen wijzigen.

    Al vraag je je ook wel af waarom je dat soort teams erbij wil houden als ze niet de intentie hebben om hogerop tekomen en blijkbaar tevreden zijn met elke race weer achteraan rijden.

    • + 0
    • 10 sep 2015 - 10:57
  • hmmm, ben ik de enige die al V12 geluiden hoorde na het lezen van de kop? ;-)

    • + 2
    • 10 sep 2015 - 11:01
    • Ja dat zijn echte oude motoren, zou het wel toejuichen ja. Zal ik nooit meer vergeten de Ferrari V12. Wat een monster was dat. Daar moest je ballen als kokosnoten voor hebben om hierin te kruipen.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:09
    • rik1995

      Posts: 33

      Haha nee hoor hier nog een. Ik vrees alleen dat dat er niet komt :(

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:10
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      Ik had het geluid van de V10 in de oren, maar werd op het verkeerde been gezet met de kop.

      • + 1
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:11
    • tja no such luck :(

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:12
    • Inderdaad :)
      Mijn smile was alleen snel weg na het lezen van de eerste regels. Ze mogen een gay-motor van een jaar oud monteren, who cares.....

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 11:59
    • Ik hoorde het geluid van een BRM H16.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 12:21
    • louc_

      Posts: 2.303

      Ik zou al tevree zijn met de V8.

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 12:36
  • Als je de motorfabrikanten niet kunt dwingen om de huidige aandrijflijnen voor minder dan 15 of 12 miljoen te leveren, is het leveren van oudere spec motoren tegen een maximum bedrag misschien een alternatief.
    Zeker naar de toekomst toe, want ik verwacht dat niet alleen de verschillen tussen de verschillende motorleveranciers kleiner worden, maar ook de verschillen tussen de verschillende specificaties van 1 leverancier.
    Goed plan lijkt mij...

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    • 10 sep 2015 - 11:10
  • Tifoso

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    Appendix 4 in de reglementen schrijft voor dat de teams met ongeveer hetzelfde materiaal moeten acteren, om nog enigszins gelijkheid te waarborgen.
    Welke gelijkheid? Die is ver te zoeken in huidige F1...

    • + 0
    • 10 sep 2015 - 11:14
    • Ze hebben ook die 107% regel, dus wat dat betreft is een zekere "gelijkheid" ook wel geborgd in dat soort zaken.

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      • 10 sep 2015 - 22:41
  • Lijkt me op het eerste zicht een prima initiatief.

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    • 10 sep 2015 - 12:41
  • wel fijn, dan krijgt red bull de ouwe Ferrari-motoren..............

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    • 10 sep 2015 - 14:38
  • pacoramon

    Posts: 572

    Op dit moment tellen klantenteams tussen de 15 en 20 miljoen pond neer voor de krachtbronnen, terwijl dat met de V8 slechts 7 miljoen pond bedroeg.\lol

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    • 10 sep 2015 - 14:52
    • louc_

      Posts: 2.303

      Dan gooi er die V8 terug in, en nog een 100 liter extra benzine, de olieprijs staat toch behoorlijk laag!

      • + 0
      • 10 sep 2015 - 17:36
  • fre0n

    Posts: 538

    Huh, lekkere kostenreductie hebbrn ze dan behaald met de overstap naar v6

    • + 0
    • 11 sep 2015 - 01:32

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