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Pirelli zit in zijn maag met één-stop strategieën

Pirelli zit in zijn maag met één-stop strategieën

  • Gepubliceerd op 17 nov 2015 16:29
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Pirelli belooft meer opwinding in 2016. De Formule 1-teams konden het dit seizoen in veel Grands Prix af met een enkele pitstop en dat was zeker niet de bedoeling. Pirelli heeft als opdracht om elke race voor twee tot drie stops per coureur te zorgen. De Italiaanse bandenfabrikant heeft wat dat betreft gefaald.

Pirelli-motorsportbaas Paul Helmbery bekent schuld tegenover UOL Esporte. "We zijn wat te conservatief geweest dit jaar, we hebben dit seizoen te veel races met één-stop strategieën gezien. Dat is niet in lijn met wat we willen en wat ons gevraagd is om te doen, namelijk twee tot drie pitstops." Daarom zou Pirelli graag weer de veelbesproken 'klif' terug willen laten keren.

"Dat zou inderdaad uitkomst bieden. Ik weet niet of we bij de bandentest in Abu Dhabi genoeg mogelijkheden hebben om daar een oplossing voor te bedenken, maar in het ideale scenario keert de klif terug zodat we weer terug gaan naar twee tot drie stops per race, in plaats van steeds langere stints zoals dit jaar de tendens is geweest", besluit Hembery.

zjeeraar

Posts: 140

Misschien liever banden die teveel slijten waardoor het een enkele keer voorkomt dat 3 of zelfs 4 stops gemaakt moeten worden.

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  • 17 nov 2015 - 16:38
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  • zjeeraar

    Posts: 140

    Misschien liever banden die teveel slijten waardoor het een enkele keer voorkomt dat 3 of zelfs 4 stops gemaakt moeten worden.

    • + 2
    • 17 nov 2015 - 16:38
  • Hugoboss92

    Posts: 940

    Of dat je verplicht bent als team om per seizoen een aantal keer 1-stops te doen, een aantal keer 2-stops en aantal keer 3-stops. Zodat je telkens een andere strategie moet bedenken per race.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 16:39
    • maxioos

      Posts: 1.824

      1e keer dat ik dit idee hoor. Voor de variatie en verassing zou het leuk kunnen zijn. Denk echter dat de meeste teams wel de zelfde tactiek zullen kiezen per weekend.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 19:58
  • rkoe

    Posts: 12

    gewoon twee leveranciers zodat ze iets verder de limiet opzoeken

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 16:43
    • maxioos

      Posts: 1.824

      limiet waarvan of waarvoor? Pirelli kan ook wel banden welke een hele race mee kunnen, alleen mogen ze dat niet. Limiet naar de snelst afgeschreven band lijkt me ook geen oplossing waar de teams voor gaan kiezen.

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2015 - 20:00
  • Calvinh

    Posts: 2.263

    Jammer. Het waren toch tactische gokken zoals die van Checo in Rusland die erg veel spanning in de wedstrijd brachten.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 16:55
  • snelle jelle

    Posts: 265

    Klif?

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 17:06
    • NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH

      Posts: 13.929

      Ja, Klif Richard, Sir Klif Richard om precies te zijn.

      :-)

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2015 - 17:41
    • Mojito

      Posts: 4.843

      Ach ja, je kent de mensen achter deze site inmiddels toch wel?

      Als algemeen beschaafd Nederlands al niet lukt, dan moet je van Engels natuurlijk helemaal geen drol verwachten.

      Maar goed, of Sir Klif Richard daar wakker van zal liggen?

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2015 - 20:15
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      beetje klef wel ;-)

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 21:39
  • gp

    Posts: 4.711

    Stoppen met die onzin! Meerdere leveranciers en de beste banden makken die mogelijk zijn. dan zul je direct spanning zien, zelfs als ze geen stops moeten maken.

    • + 1
    • 17 nov 2015 - 17:07
    • gp

      Posts: 4.711

      Sorry, maken natuurlijk, niet makken.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 17:08
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      zoals ten tijde van Schumi, waar toen alle teams met Bridgstone bij voorbaat al voor die met Michelin lagen, ongeacht hoe goed de auto is die je ontwikkeld hebt?

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 21:40
  • Señor Sjon

    Posts: 290

    Misschien moet Brembo dit ook met de remmen gaan doen. Remmen die ontploffen na xxx meter geremd te hebben. Via facebook kan je dan stemmen wie zijn remmen het langste mag houden.

    Ik was er al bang voor dat Pirelli met een nieuw contract op zak deze onzin weer zou introduceren. Dan voldoet de huidige Live timing en FOM graphics al helemaal niet meer om nog maar iets van de wedstrijd te volgen.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 17:19
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      Dit is ze opgedragen door FIA en Ecclestone (laatst nog op een engelse site gelezen. iets met pit en pass ;-) )

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 21:42
  • kooleracer

    Posts: 975

    Meer pitstops, slijtende banden waardoor je niet kun volgen, zijn voor de oorzaak dat er weinig spannende races zijn. Spanning is volgens mij het toewerken naar een hoogtepunt. Dus als een coureur 2 of 3 ronde dik een halve seconde of minder achter een coureur kan rijden zonder dat ze banden meteen naar de klote zijn en vervolgens dan kan inhalen.

    Dat brengt spanning en niet een auto om de 15 ronden langzaam de pitsstraat zien in rijden om vervolgens weer keurig te ritsen en de auto voor hem keurig te gaan volgen op 2 seconden afstand. Ik snap de huidige redenatie van Pirelli niet, volgens mij werkt deze redenatie ook zeer pover.

    Ik zie liever dat ze de coureurs banden geven die nauwelijks slijten een van veel grip voorzien, maar de coureurs wel verplicht worden te stoppen tussen bepaalde de ronden. De race in drieën verdelen en ze verplichten in elke deel van banden te wisselen. Het is dan cosmetisch maar dan heb je wel het voordeel dan coureurs er een sprint race van maken en dus op het circuit alles geven om hun voorsprong uit te bouwen of degene voor hem in te halen aangezien iedereen 3 keer moet pitten. Om het leuker te maken elke rijder verplichten om op 3 verschillende compouds te rijden tijdens de race.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 17:26
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Banden die niet slijten, maar wel veel grip hebben.....
      Ik ben geen expert op dat gebied, maar dit lijkt mij technisch onmogelijk te realiseren.
      Een band die niet slijt zal harder qua rubber samenstelling gemaakt moeten worden, en dat betekend minder grip, tenminste, zo zie ik het.

      • + 0
      • 17 nov 2015 - 17:44
    • kooleracer

      Posts: 975

      @Nicos

      Dankt kan zeker wel kijk maar de Michelin banden die worden gebruikt bij LMP1-H in de WEC.

      Daar gaan de banden 3 of 4 stints mee tijdens Le Mans. Waarbij de ronde tijden nauwelijks fluctueren. Dus het is zeker mogelijk en de technologie wordt al reeds gebruikt.

      • + 1
      • 17 nov 2015 - 18:44
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Kooleracer,

      WEC is geen F1, dat zijn duur races, dat is iets anders, daar is het nog een groter issue om je materiaal te sparen. Een stint te veel van je materiaal vergen, en je verliest meer tijd, dan dat je ermee wint.
      Ze weten precies wat voor ronde tijden ze moeten rijden, om zo de stint uit te kunnen rijden.

      • + 2
      • 17 nov 2015 - 19:55
  • delongi

    Posts: 201

    maak toch alstublieft banden waarmee een coureur tot de max kan gaan dan al die kunst grepen om er zogenaamd een spectakel van te maken.

    even off topic. ik ben geen maldonado volger maar volgenshttp://www.livesportstreaming24.com heeft hij de afgelopen race alleen op de medium compount gereden. hebben zij het fout of hebben de officials wat gemist?

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 19:52
    • dude

      Posts: 327

      Ik geloof dat ze de banden van Vettel ook verkeerd hebben, die had na zijn tweede stop ook Softs. Volgens mij is Maldonado voor zijn tweede stint op softs gegaan.

      • + 0
      • 18 nov 2015 - 01:17
  • JaapB

    Posts: 1.233

    Gewoon verplichten om 2 keer te stoppen niet zo moeilijk toch?

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 22:42
  • James Raven

    Posts: 2.295

    Of gewoon geen bandenwissels plannen. Moet er weer gewoon op de baan ingehaald worden. Ook de aerodynamica aanpakken zodat er gevolgd kan worden. En als er dan toch gewisseld moet worden moet dat relatief veel tijd kosten.

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 23:12
  • Sirhenry

    Posts: 759

    Heeft niks te maken met racen, kunstmatige ingrepen...

    • + 0
    • 17 nov 2015 - 23:54
  • dude

    Posts: 327

    Volgens mij moeten we de oplossing zoeken in weer tanken tijdens de GPs, dan krijg je vanzelf de bandenwissels erbij en heeft ook Pirelli niet meer de negatieve publiciteit dat de banden te snel zouden slijten...

    • + 0
    • 18 nov 2015 - 01:10
  • Benspeed

    Posts: 2.792

    Ik vond de banden dit jaar wel goed, zo konden de "zwakkeren" een poging doen om toch in de punten te finishen...

    • + 0
    • 18 nov 2015 - 09:27

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