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'Meer problemen op komst bij deze motorregels'

  • Gepubliceerd op 29 jan 2016 12:12
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De Formule 1 is nog niet uit de problemen wat betreft de motorreglementen voor de toekomst. Honda, Renault, Mercedes en Ferrari bereikten eerder deze maand een akkoord over het standaardiseren van meer onderdelen en het instellen van een maximum prijs van 12 miljoen euro.

Dat is een stap in de goede richting, maar het gaat Bernie Ecclestone niet ver genoeg. De Formule 1 heeft nog altijd simpelere regels nodig om de sport toegankelijker te maken. "Tenzij we motoren tegen lagere kosten kunnen bouwen, zijn er meer problemen op komst", waarschuwde Ecclestone tegenover BBC Sport.

Het probleem met de huidige regelementen is dat ze te complex zijn, waardoor het voor onafhankelijke motorenbouwers te duur is om aan een Formule 1-project te beginnen. Ecclestone wil graag de macht van de autofabrikanten doorbreken.

"Als we met de Formule 1 Commissie bijeen komen en Ferrari en Mercedes besluiten samen om iets niet te doen, wat ook gebeurt, dan hebben ze genoeg stemmen om te voorkomen dat het erdoor komen. In feite bepalen zij welke kant de Formule 1 op gaat. Maar eerlijk gezegd zou ik hetzelfde doen als ik me in hun positie zou bevinden."

Mag Verslappen

Posts: 2.647

Er komen pas weer veranderingen zodra Ferrari merkt dat ze Mercedes niet gaan verslaan met deze regels. Dat is dit jaar al waarschijnlijk..

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  • 29 jan 2016 - 12:52
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  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    "Als we met de Formule 1 Commissie bijeen komen en Ferrari en Mercedes besluiten samen om iets niet te doen, wat ook gebeurt, dan hebben ze genoeg stemmen om te voorkomen dat het erdoor komen. In feite bepalen zij welke kant de Formule 1 op gaat. Maar eerlijk gezegd zou ik hetzelfde doen als ik me in hun positie zou bevinden."

    Dit wat hierboven staat moet gewoon gaan veranderen, het is in mijn ogen aan de Fia/Ecclestone om dit te bepalen wat veranderd. De teams hebben teveel macht om regels tegen te houden.

    • + 0
    • 29 jan 2016 - 12:44
    • F1osaurus

      Posts: 3.304

      Misschien moet je je eindelijk eens verdiepen hoe het werkt in de F1 besluitvorming in paats van steeds weer dit soort nonsens te roepen? Mercedes en Ferrari zitten namelijk niet in de F1 commissie.

      De F1 commisssie bestaat uit "onpartijdige" leden uit verschillende landen en verschillende disciplines. Dat die mensen met gezond verstand snappen dat je niet na 2 jaar weer de reglementen compleet om kan gooien.

      • + 0
      • 31 jan 2016 - 20:33
  • Vaxmerstappen

    Posts: 992

    Tja, had bernie kunnen verwachten. De huidige motorformule is gewoon een k*tpakket. En dan vooral die hybride systemen. De V6 mag wel blijven dat is voor mij niet een groot probleem, maar die hybride niet. Kost veel te veel geld terwijl het weinig toegevoegde waarde heeft voor de kijker.

    • + 1
    • 29 jan 2016 - 12:47
    • dude

      Posts: 327

      Voor zover ik het mij kan herinneren was het Bernie die voor de V8 was, en de FIA voor de 4-cilinder, met uiteindelijk als compromis de V6.

      Maar ja, met het zicht op de kostenbesparingen niet bepaald goed uitgepakt nee...

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 13:12
    • DutchTreath

      Posts: 5.058

      Wat ik al eens eerder had opgemerkt, hanen gedrag ten top bij de FIA.

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 13:41
    • Michel Vaillant

      Posts: 2.481

      Mercedes en Renault wilden eigenlijk een 4 cilinder, Ferrari sprak daar het veto over uit waardoor het uiteindelijk een V6 werd.

      Mercedes en Renault hebben ook al eens uitgesproken dat ze gaan stoppen als de V8 terug zou komen.

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 14:15
    • Sergeant Gneisbaard

      Posts: 4.431

      @Dude, Bernie heeft het helemaal zelf veroorzaakt. Toen Mosley nog FIA baas was probeerde Bernie Volkswagen al te paaien voor toetreden tot de F1. Dr. Wolfgang Ulrich schijnt m toen verteld te hebben dat Wolfsburg dan wel V4 Turbo's wilde, dus regelden Bernie en Mosley dat.
      Helaas ging het toen op twee punten mis. VW koos voor de rallysport en Mosley werd betrapt met een aantal callgirls. Todt nam het over en hoewel Bernie er nog alles tegenaan gooide om die V4 weg te krijgen hielden Merc en Renault zoals MV al stelt voet bij stuk. Dankzij het veto van Ferrari zitten we met de V6. Daarom nu dat Bernie als het even kan op de motorenformule blijft schelden en wss glashard zal ontkennen dat het allemaal bij hem begon met VW en de V4

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 14:33
    • F1osaurus

      Posts: 3.304

      Bernie heeft dit motoren reglement er persoonlijk met grof geweld doorheen gedouwd.

      Echt een gotspe dat die dwaas nu net doet alsof iedereen gek is en dat we allemaal zijn nieuwe gestoorde gedachtenkronkel maar moeten volgen omdat het dan allemaal heus wel een keer goedgaat komen.

      De man is seniel. Het is klaar.

      • + 0
      • 31 jan 2016 - 20:34
  • Mag Verslappen

    Posts: 2.647

    Er komen pas weer veranderingen zodra Ferrari merkt dat ze Mercedes niet gaan verslaan met deze regels. Dat is dit jaar al waarschijnlijk..

    • + 2
    • 29 jan 2016 - 12:52
  • Erwinnaar

    Posts: 4.904

    Milieu en racen gaan NOOIT samen. Vroeger niet en nu nog niet en morgen nog niet en volgend jaar nog steeds niet. Complete bullshit is het want racen met formule wagens was altijd al buitengewoon, niet standaard en ver van de werkelijkheid. Tuurlijk, een aantal zaken kan je terugvinden in huidige wagens maar om dat aan de f1 toe te gaan schrijven?

    Het moet een soort extreem speeltje blijven die f1 en de motoren in het bijzonder naar mijn mening en geen real life scaletrix circusje.

    • + 2
    • 29 jan 2016 - 12:58
  • bruintje

    Posts: 272

    Wacht nog één jaar zou ik zeggen. In Melbourne weten we hoe laat het is. Loopt Mercedes opnieuw een seconde uit is het prijs. Dan zal het ruzie zijn en dit gedurende het volledige seizoen. Dan zou er iets kunnen veranderen.

    Het probleem is dat de ontwikkelingskosten zodanig hoog zijn, dat de kans op succes relatief klein te noemen zijn, dat vele fabrikanten gewoon besluiten om niet deel te nemen aan de F1. Blijkbaar voert Eccelstone gesprekken met verschillende autoconstructeurs maar willen die niet toehappen.

    • + 0
    • 29 jan 2016 - 12:59
    • Mag Verslappen

      Posts: 2.647

      Ik denk dat Mercedes heel voorzichtig is geweest vorig seizoen en niet het achterste van de tong hebben laten zien. Ze hebben zelfs een raceje weggegeven (Singapore) om de F1 tegemoet te komen.
      'Oh ja het was best spannend hoor, Vettel zette me de hele race onder druk'. Jaja, racen met de handrem erop.

      • + 1
      • 29 jan 2016 - 14:31
    • MadMax2.0

      Posts: 631

      Juist Mag zo zie ik het ook dit jaar word weer een makkie voor Mercedes en klote voor de kijkers en de sport, ik hoop dat Bernie in maart of april alsnog de boel op de kop zet en geloof maar dat RB ook weer heel hard gaat schreeuwen.

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 18:28
    • Drankorgel

      Posts: 744

      IK zit niet op rollator races te wachten. Beter een V12 met veel herrie en spektakel.
      Zo hard dat je ogen en oren duizelen. Alles voor het publiek.
      Die V6 douwen ze maar in een golf.
      Uit de tijd van pa Ves, die goeie ouwe tijd..

      • + 0
      • 29 jan 2016 - 20:42
    • Erwinnaar

      Posts: 4.904

      Omdat in 2017 er toch een hoop zal veranderen gaat Mercedes dit jaar misschien nog wel 1 keer even helemaal los en vegen ze de boel bij elkaar en worden ze makkelijk opnieuw wk.

      • + 0
      • 31 jan 2016 - 11:17
  • Benno329

    Posts: 2.786

    Ik denk dat er bijna voldoende draagvlak is om een nieuwe raceklasse in het leven te roepen die wel interessant is voor fabrikanten om in te stappen. Dat is nu niet meer het geval en uiteindelijk wordt dat ook de doodsteek voor de F-1.

    • + 0
    • 29 jan 2016 - 21:50
  • F1osaurus

    Posts: 3.304

    Dat Ecclestone nou denkt dat iedereen maar gewoon moet doen wat hij wil is zijn kronkel. Alleen een complete dwaas kan zich daar in vinden.

    Die reglementen zijn opgesteld als meerjarenplan. Was het niet tot 2020 ofzo? Daar zijn de investeringen van de fabrikanten op gebaseerd.

    Kom er bij Ecclestone eens om dat hij een honderden miljoenen neer telt voor iets en dat ze dan twee jaar later tegen hem zeggen dat hij dat allemaal weg kan flikkeren en dat hij maar weer een paar honderd miljoen moet investeren om iets net even anders te gaan doen.

    Die motoren komen vanzelf wel naar elkaar qua performance. Dat heeft met de V8 ook een tijdje geduurt. Nou en?

    Dan hadden ze gewoon van dat motoreregelement af moeten blijven. Ecclestone wilde het zo graag omdat Volkswagen dan zou toetreden en Renault wilde het ook om "road relevant" te zijn. Renault ging af als een gieter en Volkswagen had er toch maaar geen zin in. Bedankt Ecclestone dus. En nou de mooie boy spelen dat het allemaal weer anders moet.

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    • 31 jan 2016 - 20:38

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