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'Red Bull had net zo goed Sainz kunnen kiezen'

Gepubliceerd op 09 mei 2016 15:19
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Door: Rob Veenstra

Red Bull besloot vorige week om Max Verstappen te promoveren naar hoofdmacht Red Bull Racing, maar de keuze had net zo goed op zijn Scuderia Toro Rosso-teamgenoot Carlos Sainz kunnen vallen. Dat stelt oud-coureur Pedro de la Rosa in El Mundo Deportivo.

"Dit is een geweldige mogelijkheid voor Carlos", steekt de Spanjaard zijn landgenoot een hart onder de riem. "Het is een teken dat Red Bull veel vertrouwen heeft in de rijders van Toro Rosso. Verstappen krijgt nu de mogelijkheid, maar dat had net zo goed Sainz kunnen zijn."

"Het laatste dat Carlos nu moet doen is zijn aanpak of zijn benadering aanpassen. Hij heeft bewezen een volwassen coureur te zijn en bij vlagen heeft hij laten zien wat hij in zijn mars heeft, al heeft hij ook vaak pech gehad. Maar vroeg of laat gaat het geluk hem toelachen."

Calvinh

Posts: 2.263

Mooi van Pedro dat hij zijn landgenoot probeert op te beuren! Kan voor Sainz geen gemakkelijke fase zijn.

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9 mei 2016 - 15:26

F1 Nieuws Carlos Sainz Jr Scuderia Toro Rosso Red Bull Racing

Reacties (122)

Benspeed

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Ja Pedro aloooooo, heb jij str*nt in je ogen ?
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:24
- Stitch
  
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  Klopt. Dit is uit de lucht gegrepen door Pedro. Ze hebben hem niet gekozen en hadden dat ook niet gedaan. Ze wilden Max vastleggen, voor hij door Mercedes of Ferrari zou worden weggekocht. Dat risico hadden ze niet bij Sainz. Dit was er weer een uit de categorie wishful thinking ;-)
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:09
- yorkstar
  
  Posts: 332
  Hij bedoelt "Het had net zo goed Sainz kunnen zijn wanneer hij beter dan Verstappen had gepresteerd"... Tja logisch... zo ken ik er nog wel één.
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  9 mei 2016 - 17:07
- Orange lion gives you wings
  
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  Ach laat die gekken Spanjaarden maar ! Waait de komende tijd wel over en binnenkort worden ze er in Rusland zo gek van dat ome Poetin de sinaasappels aan de grens laat tegen houden ! Hoop alleen dat de Australiërs wat objectiever zijn haha.
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  9 mei 2016 - 17:07
- SennaDaSilva
  
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  Pedrootje toch, zeker een minderwaardigheid complexje over gehouden toen je met vadertje Jos in 1 team reed?
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:06
- perestijn
  
  Posts: 1.663
  Wij van de Spaanse WC-eend adviseren Spaanse WC-eend......
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  9 mei 2016 - 20:15
- Big_El
  
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  Tja... hart onder de riem steken bij Carlos. Maar ook een dolk in de rug.
  Want een uitspraak als 'Hij heeft bewezen een volwassen coureur te zijn en bij vlagen heeft hij laten zien wat hij in zijn mars heeft' is een bewijs van onkunde voor iemand als Helmut Marko... Die wil een coureur die constant zijn kunnen toont, niet alleen bij vlagen. Als die vlagen nu alleen tijdens de race waren geweest, was er nog iets positiefs, maar de afgelopen keren was het juist de vrijdag, wanneer er niets te halen valt, dat Carlos op zijn best is. Vandaar dat er voor Max is gekozen, en niet voor Carlos.
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  9 mei 2016 - 20:53
M.Schumi

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Heel Spanje huilt weer..
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:24
- Benspeed
  
  Posts: 2.792
  De enige echte Spaanse topper die er is, is Fernando en alle andere Spanjaarden kwamen niet in het stuk voor
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:26
- vitesse
  
  Posts: 1.524
  Jaime Alguersuari ,was ook niet bepaald slecht ,en zou geen modderfiguur geslagen hebben ,als hij die kans had gekregen (wil niet zeggen dat hij beter is/was dan Max) ,en ook het aanstormend talent......Carmen Jordá ,maar dit zie ik misschien verkeerd ,tja.....,
  heeft nog een mooie toekomst voor zich ,zucht....!
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:41
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Denk dat die mooie toekomst van Jorda over enkele jaren echt wel uit begint te zakken en gaat hangen!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:41
- vitesse
  
  Posts: 1.524
  @Lars75
  
  Bedoel nabije toekomst ,daarna zal ze Monisha K. wel op gaan volgen ,denk je niet?
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:47
Kevin

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And here we go again. Fanboys incoming!
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:26
- perestijn
  
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  En Spaanse loverboys out ;-)
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  9 mei 2016 - 20:16
- Das Haus
  
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  Pfffff
  Meer woorden heb ik er niet voor over.... Niet voor t topic en niet voor je post. ( p.s. Ik snap dat pfff geen woord is volgens de dikke van dale).
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:26
Jean Alesi

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en nu gaan we lekker los op de la Rosa...
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:26
- Kennie
  
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  :-) Had de la Rosa niet Jos outqualified in 2000 ?
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:48
- Ramshoek2
  
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  @Kennie.
  En dat maakt hem gelovenswaardiger dan Jos?
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:27
- Gigi
  
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  Natuurlijk gaan we los. Het is toch ook pure onzin?
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:31
- lars75
  
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  Nee hoor, de la Rosa is een prima vent en redelijk goed coureur. Persoonlijk denk ik naast Schumacher en Sato zijn beste teamgenoot (en nee ik vergeet Barichello niet). Maar dit is natuurlijk volslagen onzinnig om te veronderstellen!!!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:43
- Speedpuppet
  
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  Ja Jean, zo gaat dat hier tegenwoordig. 1 slecht woord over Max en ze worden compleet door de mangel gehaald :) Of het nu terecht is of niet... Achja, ook die jongens worden eens ouder en verstandiger.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:44
- Kennie
  
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  @Ramshoek2
  
  Nee, dat maakt hem niet geloofwaardiger. Het was geen echt serieuze reactie. Mijn excuses.
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  9 mei 2016 - 18:18
Henery

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Hahahahahahahahahahaha, ik kom niet meer bij van het lachen
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:26
Calvinh

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Mooi van Pedro dat hij zijn landgenoot probeert op te beuren! Kan voor Sainz geen gemakkelijke fase zijn.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:26
- leroyvdheuvel
  
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  kijk een volwassen reactie! ;) +1
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:33
- Totalia
  
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  Dat noem ik nu eens een eenvoudige en adulte reactie
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:43
- F1VANDAAG
  
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  Kijk zo kan het ook.CALVINH de gouden forun lid verdiend.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:08
- Levano
  
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  Maar tegen beter weten in iets zeggen...
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:24
- Gigi
  
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  Erg lief, maar volkomen ongeloofwaardig. In als SAI daar echt in gaat geloven staat hem een dikke teleurstelling te wachten. Ook als hij echt denkt naar RBR te kunnen gaan in 2017 trouwens.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:33
- o-verstappen
  
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  Hij moet Sainz niet blij maken met een dooie mus.....gewoon eerlijk zijn en zeggen dat ie nog wat stapjes moet zetten, dan misschien volgend jaar.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:38
- maximaalverstappen
  
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  De La Rosa is een goed coureur geweest, heb ik respect voor.
  Het is toch prima dat hij Sainz een steun in de rug geeft? Ja, ok, Spanjaard tegen Spanjaard maar dat is bij nederlanders ook zo, doornbosch, lammers, vd Garde etc zeggen allemaal iets over Max.
  
  Alleen inhoudelijk, en dat is niet omdat Max fan ben, ben ik van mening dat Sainz nog wel kan/moet verbeteren op het meer gecontroleerd rijden / vloeiende lijnen. Dus op dat vlak wijk ik af van De la Rosa....
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:40
- Jas Verstoppen
  
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  Cynisme Alert!!!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:49
- robertos
  
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  opbeuren? hij zegt dat sainz bij vlagen goed is en dat hij zn benadering moet veranderen. en aangezien sainz vanalles vindt maar niet dat hij zn benadering moet veranderen, denk ik dat onze carlos hier niet echt blij van wordt
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  9 mei 2016 - 18:28
- FerrariRules
  
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  Precies. Pedro blijft een goede gozer. Dit zal Carlos goed doen.
  Kan hij wel gebruiken.
  Er zijn weinig coureurs die tegen zo'n hype moeten strijden naast de baan.
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:58
Opdeplank

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Te veel zon op het bolletje daar. Gelukkig geven ze hier wat bewolking op van het weekend anders gaan we hier straks nog gekke dingen posten.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:27
- M.Schumi
  
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  De Spanjaarden hebben afgelopen week toch echt kunnen afkoelen met een bak regen en lage temperaturen.. Nederland daar in tegen..
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:28
wibi

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Het is net of ik Olav Mol hoor praten. En SAI laat bij vlagen leuke dingen zien. VES vaak (of altijd). Daarom mag hij naar de echte Rode Stier
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:29
Frontwinger

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Laten we bovenstaande onzin op goedbedoeld chauvinisme houden. En door... ;-)
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:30
- JDinkelman
  
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  Gelukkig zijn deze site en z'n bezoekers daar volledig immuun voor.
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:50
- lars75
  
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  Nee en chauvinisme is ook helemaal geen vies iets!!!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:44
Schumi81

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Gaan we nu een zelfde soort betoog horen van de overige oud F1 piloten uit Spanje?

Dan kunnen we volgens Wiki nog een aantal nieuws berichtjes verwachten :D

Jaime Alguersuari
Fernando Alonso
Adrián Campos
Antonio Creus
Marc Gené
Paco Godia
Juan Jover
Roberto Merhi
Luis Pérez-Sala
Alfonso de Portago
Pedro de la Rosa
Carlos Sainz, Jr.
Alex Soler-Roig
Emilio de Villota
Emilio Zapico
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:30
- leroyvdheuvel
  
  Posts: 674
  grappig! sainz Jr. staat er ook bij!
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:35
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Die heeft zijn mening ook al gegeven :-) Maar was een beetje van de zelfde strekking als dit zwakke betoog!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:45
- Das Haus
  
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  Je bent er 1 vergeten ;)
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:35
Mika1

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In Spanje vinden ze Alonso ook nog steeds beter dan Senna en Schumacher bijelkaar, dus...
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:31
Dale U

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Ik denk dat Pedro via een slecht werkende schotel de F1 volgt, te vaak een sneeuwbeeld op zijn TV, verder had Jos toch vaak een behoorlijke kluif aan hem.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:31
Blackbriar

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Als Carlos beter was geweest dan hadden ze hem echt wel genomen. Ik zeg dit niet omdat ik een Nederlander ben en fan ben van Verstappen, maar Max is gewoon n stuk beter.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:33
- JDinkelman
  
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  Als Kvyat de beweegreden was voor deze move dan had Pedro een punt kunnen hebben met deze uitspraak. De grillige Rus was echter maar een factor die het proces enigzins bespoedigd heeft.
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:55
Pinonderin

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****** (vul in naar keuze) Lyrisch over sainz....
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:34
LimboF1

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Tja, HAD......maar ze hebben voor de betere van de twee gekozen.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:35
Aiii

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Hij heeft gelijk. Stel Sainz had net zo goed gepresteerd als Verstappen. Stel Sainz had net zoveel punten gehad als Verstappen. Stel Sainz had net zo goed met de banden om kunnen gaan Verstappen. Stel Sainz had net zo'n constante racetijden kunnen rijden als Verstappen en stel nou dat Sainz net zoveel en net zo mooi in kunnen halen als Verstappen dan had het zomaar zo kunnen zijn dat Red Bull Racing voor Sainz had gekozen in plaats van Verstappen.

Sainz is een prima coureur en die jongen komt er heus wel, maar ik kan met de prestaties van beide heren niet anders concluderen dan dat er geen realistisch scenario te bedenken is waar Red Bull had gekozen voor een promotie van Sainz over Verstappen.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:36
TDZ

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Ik had mijn gehaktballen ook langer in de pan kunnen laten liggen. (ook zo'n zinloze uitspraak)
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:37
- perestijn
  
  Posts: 1.663
  Zo zinloos vind ik het niet, het gaat immers over gehaktballen. Kan je dan even vertellen waarom? Geeft iets meer diepgang aan je reactie...... ;-)
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  9 mei 2016 - 20:26
Damon Hill

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Het lijstje (oud)coureurs die afgezeken worden op het forum van F1Today krijgt er weer eentje bij in de vorm van De La Rosa:

Het lijstje:
Sainz
Massa
Grosjean
Maldonado
Herbert
Villeneuve
Doornbos
De La Rosa

Mis ik iemand? Ricciardo zal er ook nog wel bij komen.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:38
- Kennie
  
  Posts: 2.659
  Ik vond Damon Hill ook niks.
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:49
- Mirani
  
  Posts: 3.056
  Rosberg?
  Nasr?
  Sirotkin? (Nu wat minder maar toen bij Sauber als vervanger van Frijns...)
  
  En idd, ik denk dat je Ricciardo alvast aan je lijstje kan toevoegen. Kan nooit lang duren. F1 fans gaan teveel op voetbal fans lijken, helaas...
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:54
- Schumi81
  
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  Hamilton
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:55
- Camber
  
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  Ja je mist Albers
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:57
- vitesse
  
  Posts: 1.524
  Jos de grindbak en Giedo (want als ik die vergeet ,gaat nickname Michel Vaillant weer uit zijn plaat) ,horen zeker ook in dit rijtje!
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:58
- Cool Cat
  
  Posts: 1.572
  Vergeet Button niet, die mag er ook op als ik sommige reacties lees op nieuwsberichten van de voorbije week.
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  9 mei 2016 - 15:59
- Mr Marly
  
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  Warwick.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:15
- Gigi
  
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  Dat is toch ook logisch? Wat de man beweert is gewoon nonsens.
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:35
- Jean Alesi
  
  Posts: 17.675
  ik vrees nu al voor de dag dat er hier een artikel verschijnt in de trant van;
  
  JEAN ALESI KRITISCH OVER MAX
  
  Ex F1 coureur Jean Alesi heeft zich in niet mis te verstane bewoordingen uitgelaten over Max Verstappen, volgens hem zou de Nederlander een veel minder volwassen indruk maken dan zijn Spaanse teamgenoot Carlos Sainz, de Fransman liet zich optekenen dat Red Bull er verstandig aan zou doen voor Carlos te kiezen in plaats van de onervaren Nederlander die bovendien in zijn ogen veel te jong is voor de F1, "we zagen in Melbourne duidelijke tekenen dat Max nog lang niet tegen de druk is opgewassen" aldus Alesi.
  Etc, etc, etc
  
  ik denk dat ik dan mn forumnaam maar beter kan veranderen zeker?:P
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:47
- Mr Marly
  
  Posts: 7.310
  @Gigi als je het tegen mij had bevestig je eigenlijk alleen de stelling, aangezien Damon Hill geen criteria aan zijn lijstje heeft gesteld ;).
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:59
- vitesse
  
  Posts: 1.524
  @Jean Alesi
  
  Beste Jean ,als jij die naam verwijder ,dan val je me zwaar tegen (eens fan/altijd fan),wat een geweldig coureur ,heb hem nog zien rijden in het Renault 5 kampioenschap en was toen al zichtbaar een spectakel (rijstijl) ,je zag hem hard gaan (gooien en smijten) ,gewoon geweldig ,heeft niet het geluk gehad ,ondanks een geweldige carrière,wat ik hem zo gunde!
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  9 mei 2016 - 17:18
- Gigi
  
  Posts: 2.209
  @vitesse Ik heb hem nog stil zien vallen zonder brandstof. Na verwoede pogingen om hem binnen te halen. Beetje dom is de man wel (de echte bedoel ik)....
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  9 mei 2016 - 17:48
- vitesse
  
  Posts: 1.524
  @Gigi
  Kan zo een top 10 bloopers van hem maken (ook voor zijn F1 Carrière),maar het bleef een geniale (pure)racer.
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  9 mei 2016 - 18:08
- DutchF1
  
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  Jos werd hier ook nog wel eens de grindbak ingereden hahaha
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  9 mei 2016 - 18:22
- NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH
  
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  JEAN: je kunt je nickname altijd veranderen in DROOGGEVALLEN. Weten allemaal dat jij het eigenlijk bent. ;-)
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:26
- AyrtonS
  
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  Kortom, wie niet?
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:31
Darlos Cainz

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''bij vlagen heeft hij laten zien wat hij in zijn mars heeft''.....jaja dat is nu net de reden dat RedBull liever Max neemt beste Pedro: die presteert namelijk vrijwel altijd super én constant.

Soms moet ik lachen om mijn spaanse hombres :)
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:41
- maximaalverstappen
  
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  Eens, max's prestaties zijn veel constanter gebleken.
  Ook in 4e races dit jaar hierin weer een ontwikkeling in doorgemaakt.
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  9 mei 2016 - 18:49
- NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH
  
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  Ja en bij vlagen ben ik geniaal. Helaas waait het hier weinig...
  
  ;-)
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:28
- Das Haus
  
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  Tis hier windstil...
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:42
Wingleader

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natuurlijk, was fifty fifty. :)
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:42
Aquarius_1972

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Maar dat hebben ze niet gedaan Pedro en daar heeft Red Bull hele goede redenen voor. En jij als commentator en als oud coureur dient deze redenen precies te weten. Als spanjool zal dit zeer lastig zijn.

Jammer van deze diskwalificatie van De La Rosa. ik zie hem geregeld op DirecTV op het Canal F1 Latina America (24 uur F1) en dan geeft hij best aardige commentaren, zeker afgezet van de andere bij dit kanaal. Maar deze opmerking is dusdanig lachwekkend dan ik hem hierbij bedankt voor "de lach van de dag"!!!
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:45
neor2

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Red Bull heeft nu de kans om alle coureurs nog eens goed onder de loep te nemen. Verstappen krijgt een meer ervaren teamgenoot, Ricciardo moet het opnemen tegen het nieuwe wonderkind van Red Bull.

Sainz krijgt een teamgenoot waarvan ze bij Red Bull al weten dat die met vlagen zeer snel kan zijn, en Kvyat krijgt de kans nog om zich te herpakken. Zijn carriere hoeft zeker nog niet voorbij te zijn, als hij Sainz verslaat zal hij weer klaar mogen staan om één van de RBR coureurs te vervangen mocht er een transfer plaatsvinden.

Echter spreekt het natuurlijk wel boekdelen dat ze juist Max doorschuiven naar Red Bull. Het geeft aan dat ze hem heel graag voor het team willen behouden, en dat de interesse van andere teams voor Max concreter is geweest dan voor Sainz.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:46
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Tja vooral Sainz vs Kvyat wordt een leuke! Die twee zitten hun hele loopbaan al aan elkaar vast en komen maar niet los van elkaar. Maar kwalitatief ook zeer aan elkaar gewaagd!
  
  Sainz moet Kvyat verslaan om aanspraak te kunnen blijven maken op zijn zitje.
  Kvyat moet Sainz verslaan om aansspraak te kunnen blijven maken op zijn zitje.
  Gasly moet in de tot 3 van het GP2 eindigen, maar beter nog 1e of 2e om die jongens nog verder onder druk te zetten voor 2017, waardoor ze nog verder in het nauw gedreven worden.
  Kan dan erg leuk worden binnen die gelederen voor 2017 en lijfsbehoud!
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:52
Petje af

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En Ricciardo zeker naar Torro Rosso. Ze hadden ook lootjes kunnen trekken.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 15:57
Wastegate

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Komt bij mij over als of ze kop of munt hebben gedaan bij RB. Duhh.
Als dat zo is dan heeft Max tegen Carlos gezegd: "kop ik win en munt jij verliest". Carlos zei: "dat is goed". En voila Max naar RB.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 16:01
- TradeMark
  
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  Sainz heeft ook altijd pech....
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:10
Cool Cat

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Tja, het is nu eenmaal typisch dat landgenoten elkaar een hart onder de riem steken. Daar is niets mis mee. En Sainz is ook helemaal geen slechte coureur. Gewoon geen topper zoals Max.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 16:02
- Carrinthe
  
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  Dat ben ik met je eens maar dat kan ook een stukje geloofwaardiger. Wanneer de la Rosa had gezegd "Carlos als je nu overtuigend Kvyat verslaat dan zijn de kansen groot dat je in een RBR14 kan instappen wanneer de verliezer van Ricciardo-Verstappen zijn heil ergens anders gaat zoeken""Ondertussen kan je die paar punten waar je kan groeien in relatieve rust aanscherpen"
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  9 mei 2016 - 16:51
- Cool Cat
  
  Posts: 1.572
  Idd, wat De la Rosa nu eigenlijk doet is Sainz naar de mond praten, omdat hij wellicht zo'n dingen wil horen. Hij de kat zelf dat hij goed bezig is, en dat wordt dan zo ook bevestigd. Het zou zeker beter zijn geweest mocht Pedro Carlos nuttiger advies had gegeven. Want ik blijf erbij, Carlos is geen slechte coureur, hij moet enkel zijn fouten inzien (en niet op anderen projecteren) en zijn rijstijl / bandenmanagement aanpakken.
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:08
Trappenmetdathok

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Denk ook dat Pedro de laRosa enigzins chauvinistisch geciteerd is, en nee hij is geen Juan Chorizo... Kon wel een aardig stukje sturen.

Maar denk dat RB inderdaad in Max de opvolger ziet van een zekere meneer Vettel. Er zijn toch wel een aantal buitenlandse kenners die het over the Next Golden Boy van Herr Marko hebben.
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- 9 mei 2016 - 16:07
mjollnir

Posts: 1.404
Oh maar jullie kunnen wel zo negatief reageren. Maar het kan wat Pedro zegt. Als red bull Iene miene mutte methodiek zou gebruiken bijvoorbeeld. Ik snap het wel :D
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- 9 mei 2016 - 16:11
Ramshoek2

Posts: 1.579
Ik vind het citaat: " en bij vlagen heeft hij laten zien wat hij in zijn mars heeft " best grappig. Bij vlagen ...
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 16:27
- Pieterzji
  
  Posts: 965
  Was dat niet een typefout: bij vlaggen....
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  9 mei 2016 - 17:30
Mojito

Posts: 4.843
Ja Pedro, precies wat je zegt: "bij vlagen"

Oftewel niet constant genoeg, net als Kvyat dat voor RBR niet was en ze daarom dus ook niet net zo goed voor Carlos hadden kunnen kiezen.
- + 1
- 9 mei 2016 - 16:27
o-verstappen

Posts: 92
Ja, da is ok.?.?...
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 16:35
lars75

Posts: 8.908
Op basis waarvan???

Sinds Monaco vorig jaar stelselmatig langzamer in kwalificaties, substantieel slechter in de races, beroerder met de banden en met zijn handen voor de ogen en samengeknepen billen inhalen.

Op basis van welke overweldigende aan één schakeling van sublieme acties, ongekende snelheden en sensationele racecrafts had dit net zo goed Sainz kunnen zijn?
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- 9 mei 2016 - 16:40
Kush

Posts: 202
"Hij heeft bewezen een volwassen coureur te zijn en bij vlagen heeft hij laten zien wat hij in zijn mars heeft"
Tuurlijk. Bij vlagen. Met vlagen win je geen races.

Ik denk dat Pedro door papa Sainz is ingevlogen om wat te roepen.
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 16:44
- F1osaurus
  
  Posts: 3.304
  Rosberg verloot vorig jaar zelfs en race na een "vlaag". Een windvlaag dan wel, maar toch.
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:00
M Benz

Posts: 1.152
Hahahahaahaahahahahahaaaaa........sorry,moest ik ff kwijt.
De wens is de vader van de gedachte Pedro, gaat echt niet gebeuren.
Sainz is goed, zonder twijfel een prima coureur, maar geen echt toptalent zoals Max.
En RBR weet dat donders goed, dus dit is wishfull thinking van onze Piet de Roos/Roze....
- + 1
- 9 mei 2016 - 17:24
MacGyver

Posts: 3.550
Ik mis het bericht: "spaans chauvinisme verpest de sfeer bij Toro Rosso"

Al die spanjolen hemelen elkaar op, zoals de meeste nederlanders elkaar het licht in de ogen niet gunnen.

Nee Pedro, dat had niet gekund, Sainz is niet slecht, zelfs goed, maar niet uitzonderlijk goed.
Wat Max in de afgelopen 2,5 jaar in de autosport heeft gepresteerd is zeer speciaal, dat zijn voortekenen voor iemand die dingen kan zoals: Senna, Piquet, Prost, Mansell, Schumacher, Jim Clark, Lauda, Fangio, Moss.
Sainz is aangename veldvulling, je hebt mensen als Sainz nodig om uitzonderlijk te lijken, zoals je Bottas, Massa, perez, Hulkenberg, Magnussen, Palmer, etc
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 17:27
maublits

Posts: 29
Logisch dat Pedro een landgenoot een hart onder de riem wil steken. Maar of het zo zwart/wit is als hij het ziet betwijfel ik ten zeerste.
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 17:29
Sjoemelsoftware

Posts: 630
Pedro geeft aan wat Carlos vooral niet moet doen. Je bent iets vergeten Pedro, Carlos moet stoppen met zich telkens zo onsterfelijk belachelijk te maken.Vroeg of laat gaat het geluk hem toelachen. Ik denk dat het heel laat wordt en kan er niets aan doen maar ieder topic over Carlos begint op mijn lach spieren te werken.
- + 1
- 9 mei 2016 - 17:32
bschuit

Posts: 11.990
Mwhahahahahaha .. 'Hij heeft bij vlagen laten zien'. Hahahahagagahaha. Tja ,laten die teambazen nu juist een coureur willen die zo constant en regelmatig mogelijk laat zien wat hij kan... Die 'Vlagen' van Sainz zie je dus ook teveel bij kvyat .... En nee laat Sainz vooral niet veranderen ,goed naar De La Rosa luisteren..... Dan weet je zeker dat je er volgend jaar uit ligt, want als hij niet snel fatsoenlijke races rijdt is het over en sluiten met het gehyped talent Carlos....
- + 2
- 9 mei 2016 - 17:33
daarom

Posts: 987
Ja hoor Pedro, ze hebben kop of munt gedaan voordat ze een keuze hebben gemaakt.
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 18:56
pcbeem

Posts: 698
Had gekund maar hebben ze niet gedaan en dat zal wel zo zijn redenen hebben :).
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 18:56
Maximus-alfa

Posts: 368
Ik denk dat Pedro hier even zijn Spaanse zonnebril moet afzetten en dit even recfht in mijn ogen moet komen vertellen.
Wat een Bull shit verhaal, Carlos gaat niet eens volgend jaar in de Red Bull komen;

1- Max en Ricciardo blijven bij Red Bull
2- Kvyat gaat even laten zien dat hij beter kan racen als Sainz
3- Al zou 1 en 2 niet waar zijn, dan gaat hij nooit meer in 1 team zitten bij Max.
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:01
- KoBus
  
  Posts: 2.382
  @Maximus
  
  1 is zonder meer waar, er is nog steeds een contract met RIC
  
  Ik heb zo'n vermoeden dat team Sainz zichzelf lelijk in de voet geschoten heeft met de acties aan het begin van dit seizoen. Men had waarschijnlijk gedacht dat team Verstappen wel zou wijken voor de bravoure van Sainz.
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  9 mei 2016 - 19:18
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Dan kent hij de mentaliteit van Max niet, want die is nooit ergens voor geweken ongeacht wie zijn tegenstanders waren. Sterker nog, zij weken meestal voor hem en zijn bravoure!
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  9 mei 2016 - 21:43
erwin93

Posts: 893
Pedro heeft toch ook gelijk in wat hij nu zegt? Als Max minder was geweest dan Carlos dan zat daar nu Carlos wellicht, maar Max zit daar natuurlijk om Mercedes en Ferrari weg te jagen ;p
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:24
AyrtonS

Posts: 3.984
Saintz is geen piepeltje maar blijkbaar heeft (terecht) rbr meer vertrouwen in MadMax
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:29
AyrtonS

Posts: 3.984
Zoals wij pochen met Max doen die spanjaarden ook met sainz.
Is toch niet zo gek? Echter die van ons is beter (uit trots mag het wel gezegd worden toch)
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:33
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Nee die van hun is beter maar had meer pech!
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  10 mei 2016 - 11:50
Supersoft

Posts: 1.102
Red Bull kan het beter nu nog omdraaien en Sainz inde Red Bull zetten... :-p. If is dit te chinisch?!
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:34
- Gigi
  
  Posts: 2.209
  Cynisch heet dat ;-)
  + 0
  
  9 mei 2016 - 20:03
- perestijn
  
  Posts: 1.663
  Clinisch kan ook :-)
  + 0
  
  9 mei 2016 - 20:41
- NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH
  
  Posts: 13.929
  Met sambal graag. ;-)
  + 0
  
  9 mei 2016 - 22:40
NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH

Posts: 13.929
Na het verloren WK voetbal van 2010 doet elk bericht waarbij die Spanjolen zich in allerlei bochten wringen om te verklaren dat Carlosje toch eigenlijk minstens net zo goed is als de grote Max me enorm goed! :-)
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 19:35
Aviflex

Posts: 1.423
he is a fucking machine
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 20:04
bullshit

Posts: 95
Weet niet wat die spanjaarden tegenwoordig roken maar moet bij vlagen wel erg goeie poeier zijn.
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 20:06
Jos

Posts: 17
Ja het is een Spanjaard
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 21:24
Das Haus

Posts: 204
Alsof iemand op de mening van de la Rosa zit te wachten...
- + 0
- 9 mei 2016 - 21:30
- lars75
  
  Posts: 8.908
  Ja Sainz :-)
  + 1
  
  9 mei 2016 - 21:43
Sirhenry

Posts: 759
Sainz gaat nog meer willen forceren en net als Kvyat( in de Red Bull) teveel fouten maken. Ik verwacht dat Sainz minimaal 2 x brokken maakt...
- + 2
- 9 mei 2016 - 21:56
- AUDI_F1
  
  Posts: 2.497
  dus 3 of 4 keer in de kreukels
  + 0
  
  9 mei 2016 - 22:19
- NOTHINGBUTTHETRUTH
  
  Posts: 13.929
  Dan hoop ik wel dat hij het op een voor Max gunstig tijdstip doet, zodat die voordeel uit de safety car-situatie kan halen.
  
  Stel je voor dat Max zijn eerste overwinning straks nog indirect aan Carlosje te dank heeft...
  
  ;-)
  + 0
  
  9 mei 2016 - 22:42
curieus

Posts: 15
Spaans gelul in de ruimte.
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- 10 mei 2016 - 08:27
Hunt James

Posts: 2.013
Ik denk dat de keuze van Red bull wel overgewogen en bewust is gebeurd.
In hun ogen beschikt Max over het meeste talent en potentieel om het ver te kunnen schoppen.
Pedro wil zijn landgenoot gewoon wat opmonteren en motiveren.
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- 10 mei 2016 - 12:11

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