'Safety car-start slechte reclame voor Formule 1'

  • Gepubliceerd op 12 jul 2016 15:20
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De Formule 1 heeft zichzelf geen goede dienst bewezen door zondag vijf ronden lang achter de safety car te rijden voordat de Britse Grand Prix echt van start ging. Dat schrijft Robert Doornbos in zijn column voor Ziggo Sport. De beslissing van de wedstrijdleiding om de safety car zo lang buiten te houden heeft een spervuur aan kritiek op gang gebracht.

Doornbos: "Dat we vijf ronden naar Bernd Mayländer als leider van de race hebben gekeken, is slecht voor de sport. Ik begrijp nog dat je een rollende start achter de safety car doet in deze situatie. Met stilstaand water in plassen op de baan is het inderdaad link met Formule 1-wagens. Met die lage rijhoogtes heb je binnen de kortste keren last van aquaplaning en drijf je onbestuurbaar van de baan."

"Maar goed, na één of twee ronden heeft iedereen kunnen zien waar het water staat en vervolgens moet je gewoon gaan. Nu was er al een complete droge lijn gereden. Meteen nadat de safety car weg was, stapten bijna alle teams over van regenbanden op intermediates. Op zo'n manier neem je een hoop spanning weg en is het belang van strategische bandenkeuzes ook minder groot."

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  • 12 jul 2016 - 15:23

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  • vwtune

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    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:23
    • Op zich begrijp ik Doornbos wel. Vond het ook wat lang die 5 rondjes.
      Echter heeft Charly Whiting aangegeven dat als 6 coureurs roepen dat er geracet kan worden hij de safety car naar binnen haalt. Dat is dus blijkbaar niet het geval geweest.
      Dus het zijn ook de coureurs die hier invloed op hebben. Wellicht handig dat ze dat met z'n allen kunnen bespreken.

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 17:58
  • Ik miste inderdaad de adrenalinekick van een spannende start onder tricky omstandigheden.

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:24
    • karel00

      Posts: 97

      Juist, dit is toch waarom we F1 kijken !

      • + 0
      • 13 jul 2016 - 12:28
  • Denk dat het heeft te maken met de Pirelli regenbanden, die zijn lang niet zo goed als de Michelin of Bridgestone regenbanden van een aantal jaar geleden. De verschillen in ronde tijden tussen slicks en regenbanden zijn qua rondetijden 2x zo groot bij Pirelli. Vroeger waren de auto's en seconden of 12 langzamer nu is dat makkelijk 20-25 seconden. Dus er is gewoon minder grip. Verder heeft het ongeval van Bianchi natuurlijk er aardig ingehakt bij de FIA. Het is jammer, maar denk dat de FIA zich niet weer wilt blootstellen aan een dodelijk ongeluk dat mede tot stand kwam door slechte weersomstandigheden.

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:26
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Ja maar dat kun je Pirelli niet aanrekenen maar de FIA en teams. Pirelli moet banden ontwikkelen die ze nooit echt kunnen testen. Tsja natuurlijk zijn de banden dan 'minder'.

      • + 1
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:40
    • Hemex

      Posts: 1.270

      As we speak... zou ik zeggen. Het hoost momenteel in Silverstone.
      Verder ben ik het wel met je eens hoor, als er nooit serieus op gereden wordt, dan is het ook geen prioriteit, noch voor FIA noch voor Pirelli.

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:43
  • Atlaz

    Posts: 748

    Het lijkt erop dat ze, de trein aan auto's op regenbanden, gebruiken als een soort Zamboni om de baan droog te krijgen en dan pas laten racen.

    www.f1today.net/nl(...)-race-op-de-ijsbaan

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:28
    • Sjors1991

      Posts: 207

      Toen Kvyat nog goed was...

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:32
    • Dat idee had ik ook, dan hadden ze eventueel ook de 5 ronden kunnen rijden en daarna een echte start ipv een rollende start kunnen verzorgen. Misschien heb ik het helemaal mis maar ik denk dat het zou moeten kunnen met de huidige regels en creatief omgaan met rode vlaggen/herstart.

      • + 1
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:37
    • Hemex

      Posts: 1.270

      Des te meer reden om die nieuwe brede 2017 banden te gebruiken. Als ze allemaal perfect in formatie zitten hebben ze daarmee de baan in één rondje droog.

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:56
  • i63.tinypic.com/jfkx7o.jpg

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:31
  • Die regenbanden kunnen wel in de vuilnisbak.

    Als je die er alleen onder hebt om achter de safetycar een droge lijn te rijden om daarna meteen naar inters te gaan kun je net zo goed meteen de inters er onder zetten, die moeten de snelheid van de safetycar nog wel bij kunnen houden.

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:32
  • En daar sluit ik me volkomen bij aan. Regenbanden zijn dus eigenlijk niet nodig gebleken.... Of zijn die verplicht bij de start?

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:45
    • jep, die zijn verplicht :)

      • + 1
      • 12 jul 2016 - 16:14
  • Marcooooo

    Posts: 499

    Ik vond het ook balen. Ik snap het aan de ene kant zeker, de Mercedessen rijden dan zo weg van de rest door het vrije zicht of als er iets gebeurd en er vallen gewonden of de helft valt uit dan hebben ze het helemaal fout gedaan, maar dit was too much. Het zijn wel zo'n beetje de beste en best betaalde coureurs ter wereld, dus die kunnen vast wel inschatten hoe ver ze kunnen gaan onder tricky omstandigheden en zo niet dan is dat het risico van het vak dus wat mij betreft hadden ze gewoon vanaf de grid mogen starten of een rondje of 2 achter de safety car.

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:46
  • De start is vaak het spannendst. ik voel me als kijker bestolen vd start. als ik op de tribune zat rechte stuk...man, ik zou me echt ontzettend genaaid voelen.
    zeker omdat het al droog was. de baan was alleen nog nat.
    zonder start ben ik meteen chagrijnig. gelukkig kwam t nog wel goed. :-)

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:47
  • #33RB12;-)

    Posts: 24

    Ik snap niet dat ze niet 5 rondjes alle safetycars en medicalcars die 5 laps laten rijden en de racestart gewoon 15 min uitstellen.
    Of na die 5 rondjes gewoon opnieuw starten, iedereen heeft toch zn positie nog!
    Of zeg ik nu iets heel stoms ofzo?

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:52
    • Hemex

      Posts: 1.270

      Volgens ons, of volgens de FIA? Daar blijkt namelijk wel verschil tussen te zitten.

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 15:58
    • De F1 wagens met regen banden rijden een baan veel sneller droog en dan ook nog eens de racelijnen...

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 16:16
    • Boutsen

      Posts: 709

      Idee is helemaal niet stom. Alleen zit er hier en daar een haakje aan ;)

      Ttz, probleem met SC en MC is dat het uiteindelijk 'gewone' auto's zijn. Hun banden verplaatsen veel minder water dan de regenband van een F1 bolide.
      Even wachten met de start hangt af van de omstandigheden, maar in dit geval had het niet gewerkt wegens plassen. Die laatste drogen niet snel en spontaan op.
      Maar ik ben wel het idee genegen om eerst enkele opwarmrondjes te draaien achter de SC. En eenmaal de grootste plassen zijn weggewerkt en de rijders een idee hebben waar het gevaarlijk is, dan kan de race, mits een kleine vertraging van start gaan zoals het hoort.

      • + 1
      • 12 jul 2016 - 18:05
  • Cypher

    Posts: 2.190

    Kan het geen optie zijn om zoals bij afgelopen GP twee rondjes achter de SC te rijden, terug naar de startopstelling en vanaf daar een herstart te doen? Lijkt me een stuk eerlijker.

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 15:58
    • Heb ik gisteren ook al geroepen, maar dit is een goede optie!

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 16:07
    • @cypher: inderdaad deze regel hadden ze al jaren geleden moeten invoeren !

      • + 0
      • 12 jul 2016 - 17:44
  • Stapver

    Posts: 31

    Blijkbaar heeft men onvoldoende vertrouwen in de kwaliteit van de regenbanden. Vraag me toch af wat er gaat gebeuren als de regen tijdens de race met bakken naar beneden komt en blijft komen. Wordt de race dan over 40 ronden uitgereden achter de safetycar?

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 16:46
    • JM_K

      Posts: 1.065

      Met bakken naar beneden.. dan komt er een code rode en wordt... mits het voor (in dit geval) 16 uur is de race herstart (verder gegaan dus).. en om 16 uur valt de vlag ;-)

      • + 0
      • 13 jul 2016 - 09:56
  • colasander

    Posts: 50

    Wel leuk dat ze nu een stukje van dezelfde column hebben genomen die ze gisteren al compleet hier op hebben gekopieerd.

    • + 1
    • 12 jul 2016 - 16:59
  • TDZ

    Posts: 1.296

    100 true!!!

    • + 0
    • 12 jul 2016 - 20:17
  • Waar is eigenlijk "Bernd Mayländer" niet DOTD geworden. Hij reed tenslotte 5 ronden aan de leiding terwijl niemand hem voorbij kwam! ;) alhoewel Lewis bijna een touche maakte met de leider in de race.

    • + 1
    • 13 jul 2016 - 07:30
    • JM_K

      Posts: 1.065

      Dan het HAM hem toch meer verdiend.. nog meer rondjes aan de leiding terwijl ook niemand hem voorbij kwam ;-)

      • + 0
      • 13 jul 2016 - 09:58
  • Petje af

    Posts: 780

    Bij F1 fans only, hadden ze het erover dat het misschien wel samenhangt met de aanklacht die tegen de FIA loopt i.v.m. de dood van een coureur. Ernstige ongelukken zijn uiteraard ook geen goede reclame, maar ze moeten inderdaad oppassen dat ze de motorsport niet te zeer gaan domesticeren. Dan is er even zo weinig kans om te 'shinen'.

    • + 0
    • 13 jul 2016 - 10:10
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Voor mij is er een simpele oplossing voor dit probleem. Laat de auto's achter de SC van start gaan om de baan droog te rijden. Daarna een staande start laten maken en dan blijft het ook spannend en eerlijker. Als het dan zo is dat het echt plenst, dan heb ik er begrip voor, maar zou liever zien dat de sart wordt uitgesteld. Het is voor coureurs vanaf plek 2 een te groot nadeel om achter een SC te starten. In het geval ban Silverstone was het ook niet nodig geweest vond ik, het regende niet meer en ze hadden 2 formatie ronden kunnen rijden om de plassen weg te rijden.

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    • 13 jul 2016 - 13:08

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