Technische bazen F1-teams verwachten geen trucs met halo

  • Gepubliceerd op 05 aug 2017 10:20
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  • Door: Rik Klein Entink

De afgelopen weken is er veel geschreven over de halo die vanaf komend seizoen de Formule 1-bolides zal sieren. Zowel door fans, coureurs en iedereen die de sport een warm hart toedraagt is er over gediscussieerd. Maar kunnen de teams er ook een voordeel uithalen? De technici denken dat het te verwaarlozen is. 

Geen grote trucs

Nick Chester, technisch directeur van Renault, verwacht niet dat er aerodynamisch gezien een voordeel te behalen is met de halo. Chester: "Om te beginnen denk ik dat het goed is dat de coureurs beter beschermd worden, daar staat iedereen achter. Maar in termen van aerodynamica is het een nadeel." Het gaat vooral om de coureur aldus Chester: "Er zullen een grote trucs mee uitgehaald worden, iedereen wil het zo goed mogelijk voor de coureurs op de auto plaatsen."

Paul Monaghan van Red Bull: "Wij zullen proberen om het aerodynamische nadeel zoveel mogelijk te beperken en daarnaast, denk ik, moet het er ook nog goed uitzien. Maar het is er niet opgezet om er goed uit te zien, het komt op de wagen voor de veiligheid."

Nadeel halo beperken

Ook Paddy Lowe van Williams Racing spreekt over het beperken van de nadelen. "De exacte gegevens zijn nog niet bekend, dus weten we ook nog niet wat de mogelijkheden zijn. Maar we hebben in ieder geval de ruimte om het aerodynamische nadeel te beperken. Daarnaast hopen we dat we het er ook nog goed uit kunnen laten zien, deze zaken gaan vaak samen", aldus Lowe. 

 

 

Als makke schapen naar de slachtbank!

Totaal geen ballen die teams! Bah!

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  • 5 aug 2017 - 10:30

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  • Als makke schapen naar de slachtbank!

    Totaal geen ballen die teams! Bah!

    • + 6
    • 5 aug 2017 - 10:30
    • Kenju

      Posts: 2.629

      Wat wil je dan?

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 12:11
    • Halo allemaal

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 13:55
    • Even offtopic, maar lees links en recht verhalen over een eventuele overname van Force India door Ecclestone & David Brabham. Dat zou dan de naam Brabham terugbrengen in de F1. Ik hoop dat dit waar is. Zou mooi zijn!

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 13:58
    • Wat de teams zeggen en wat ze denken zijn twee verschillende dingen hoor. Stiekum.proberen ze er allemaal een voordeeltje mee te halen en volgens mij is dat ook prima mogelijk.

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 14:49
    • DBGates

      Posts: 3.713

      @maximiliaan ik hoop het niet, vind Force India verfrissend team

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 21:00
  • Ze zullen wel moeten. De FIA gaat over de veiligheidsmaatregelen in de sport, en bepaald uiteindelijk wat er gaat gebeuren. Daar kunnen de teams en de coureurs weinig aan doen.

    • + 1
    • 5 aug 2017 - 10:38
    • Dat klopt. Maar als MB, RBR, SF, Renault, Williams, en nog een paar zeggen in 2018 de stekker er uit te trekken ivm de komst van de halo. De FIA toch wel even terug zal komen op hun besluit. (Maar gaat niet gebeuren)

      • + 2
      • 5 aug 2017 - 10:48
    • Mosquito

      Posts: 327

      Ze hebben een contract Tinus, tot 2020...

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 10:50
    • manuel

      Posts: 3.119

      Als ze zelfs al censuur gebruiken en nu teams ook al roepen dat iedereen voor meer veiligheid is terwijl dat juist niet zo is. Is het verloren, tenzij er een ongeluk gebeurt waarbij de halo een negatieve invloed heeft. Moeten we nu de rallysport ook maar afschaffen?? of de moto gp?? Parijs dakar?? Ze slaan compleet door. Deze maatregel heeft alleen maar te maken omdat ze bang zijn voor rechtszaken en niks anders. Ik snap de oudere coureurs wel, die zeggen als er 1 leven mee gered is dat is het al de moeite waard. Ik snap het maar ben het er niet mee eens. Niet alles in het leven is te voorkomen en je zult zeker in deze sport een bepaalde mate van risico moeten accepteren.

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 11:10
    • Elke grote verandering wat veiligheid aangaat in de F1 is altijd gepaard gegaan met een hoop tegenstand. Maar het is nog steeds gebleken dat ondanks die veranderingen men toch is blijven kijken naar de sport. Ook nu zal dit weer het geval zijn. Alles went, zelfs een Halo. Ik geef je op een briefje dat iedereen de Halo accepteert op het moment dat deze zo is gere-integreerd in het chassis van de bolide dat het er als een strak aerodynamische toevoeging uit ziet. En als daarbij op een gegeven moment misschien de titelstrijd wordt uitgevochten door 3 teams op het circuit, dan nemen we het hele Halo verhaal voor lief. Even terzijde, van mij hoeft die Halo ook niet hoor, begrijp mij goed.

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 11:24
    • P.S. Trouwens even voor de goede orde. De teams mogen zelf een constructie bedenken om de Halo vloeiend te laten overlopen in het chassis, zolang de Halo zelf qua constructie ongemoeid blijft. Je zou dus kunnen denken aan een constructie van een dunne bovenplaat op de Halo die vloeien het chassis in loopt. De teams hebben daar tot 20 mm bovenop de Halo ruimte voor gekregen van de FIA. Dus het is aan de teams om met een fraaie en aerodynamische oplossing te komen voor de Halo.

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 11:37
    • Bron: https://youtu.be/AYkGjUHstKY?t=1452

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 11:39
    • marcio

      Posts: 3.426

      Helemaal mee eens DutchTreath! Wie herinnert zich nog de ophef toen het Handsysteem werd ingevoerd ergens 2003. Voor wie het vergeten zijn, zie de volgende link: http://wwwPUNTgppitsPUNTnet/nieuws/fia_blijft_achter_hans_staan/

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 12:45
  • Allemaal flapjes en flexibele onderdelen op de halo.

    • + 2
    • 5 aug 2017 - 11:09
    • @ Orangearrows, Ik geloof er geen snars van de de Halo niet misbruikt gaat worden. Dus ik denk dat je gelijk gaat krijgen. Wordt gewoon weer een kerstboom waar je van alles aan gaat hangen. Misschien kunnen ze een ledbalk inbouwen voor nachtraces...

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 13:31
    • Wie herinnert zich de flapjes op de neus van de Honda's nog? Ook wel Dumbo-ears genoemd, je zou ze zo aan de zijkant van een Halo kunnen plakken: Halo Dumbo!

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 15:47
  • mario

    Posts: 11.603

    Soort F-duct van die teenslipper maken ;)

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 11:14
  • Het is aan de FIA om gelijk te verbieden er allerhande troep op te monteren ,zoals extra vleugeltjes of dergelijk nonsens.... Je hoort alweer geluiden om er camera,s op vast te schroeven, kan je gelijk al vraagtekens bijzetten, als zo,n ding sec bedoelt is voor de veiligheid,, of dat de bedoeling kan zijn

    • + 1
    • 5 aug 2017 - 11:55
    • Ze monteren er VERstralers op.

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 16:07
    • @BSCHUIT; komt een veer tegen die camera aan en krijg je de camera door je vizier. Inderdaad, prima voor de veiligheid zo'n halo.

      Ik loof € 1.000 beloning uit voor degene die 'm onzichtbaar weet uit te voeren....

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 18:05
  • lexe

    Posts: 97

    uiteindelijk zal iemand de mazen in de regelgeving vinden en er voordeel uithalen.

    • + 2
    • 5 aug 2017 - 12:02
    • Natuurlijk! Daar zijn nieuwe regels voor!

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 12:33
    • Mosquito

      Posts: 327

      Het zou uitermate teleurstellend zijn als geen van de teams dat zou doen!
      Net als dat het oliedom zou zijn als ze dat in een interview zouden aankondigen... ;)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 13:01
  • Zelf zat ik meer aan de VERDWIJNtruc te denken. Weg met dat lelijke ding - de F1 is veilig genoeg. Natuurlijk weten we niet wat er achter schermen gebeurt, maar ik heb het gevoel dat iedereen het zomaar pikt.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 12:17
  • 919

    Posts: 2.372

    Het is wachten op het eerste team wat de halo gewoon dicht gaat zetten om er aerodynamisch voordeel uit te behalen. Zou mij niet verbazen als dat volgend jaar al direct op de grid zou staan.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 12:51
    • Kruipluikje erop en gaan met die banaan ;)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 12:55
    • Sjees

      Posts: 1.149

      Dat mag niet

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 15:47
  • En straks nog ruiten erin en ruitenwissers erop en klaar!
    Allemaal in het belang van veiligheid.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 13:12
    • Zucht

      Posts: 768

      bumpers en spatborden, maar het belangrijkste, de snelheid moet omlaag, maximaal 120 km/u en van 19:00 - 06:00 130 km/u

      • + 0
      • 6 aug 2017 - 13:28
  • ik verwacht ook gen halo met trucs tijdens transport

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 13:41
  • JV fan

    Posts: 2.523

    Soort van Tyrrell towers (X wings) constructie op de Halo (in monaco ) xd

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 15:38
  • Frank-84

    Posts: 666

    Gewoon de keus aan de coureur zelf laten. Probleem opgelost.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 16:04
  • Pepsi Max

    Posts: 558

    Dat de coureurs beter beschermd worden daar staat iedereen achter. Op de eerste plaats de coureurs vanzelfsprekend die ieder overbodig risico uit de weg gaan.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 16:32
    • Pepsi Max

      Posts: 558

      (een weerwoord is gevaarlijker dan rijden zonder halo, dat merkte je bij Max toen hij antwoord gaf op de vraag van een journalist wat hij van de Formule E vond. Dat weten we allemaal, behalve die journalist. Max zei dat hij het probeerde te kijken. Heel diplomatiek, want met de milieufreaks is het al net zo erg gesteld als het om een gezondheidsrisico's voor de bevolking gaat)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 16:50
    • @CokeZero; da's nog een heel diplomatiek antwoord van Verstappen. Het is namelijk niet om aan te gluren, dat FE.... (dat bedoelde Max natuurlijk ook)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 18:07
    • Dat heet een rethorische vraag (die geen antwoord behoeft) net als die vraag aan Sebastian Vettel of hij opzettelijk tegen Lewis Hamilton aan gereden is. Die vragen stelt men omdat men het niet waar wil hebben. De Formule E is het aanzien waard.

      • + 0
      • 6 aug 2017 - 10:41
  • KoBus

    Posts: 2.382

    Zag op AMuS al een foto-serie van Mercedes tijdens tests in hoeverre de Halo al is veranderd.

    De middenstijl is al behoorlijk dun geworden....

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 16:33
    • De middenstijl mag niet dunner worden dan 1,6 cm volgens de huidige regelementen. Maar ze gaan nog veel testen, dus dat kan nog wel veranderen natuurlijk ;)

      • + 1
      • 5 aug 2017 - 17:16
    • KoBus

      Posts: 2.382

      @SCHWANTZ34

      Volgens mij gaat het er ook om hoeveel gewicht/druk de Halo kan (ver)dragen.
      Als er een mogelijkheid is om de Halo aan de achterzijde zo aan het chassis te monteren dat de meeste druk daar komt te liggen dan heeft de middenstijl alleen nog een afwerende functie en geen dragende.

      Maar er zal de komende tijd volop getest worden, dat ben ik met je eens ;)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 18:54
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Dan zullen ze het nu al potdicht moeten maken mbt de regels rond de Halo. Anders krijgen we weer een heel ander geneuzel rond de Halo. Straks gaan teams roepen dat er weer iemand flex of wat dan ook in een Halo heeft gezien. Ze moeten gewoon heel duidelijk zijn en een standaard Halo voor alle teams maken.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 20:16
    • Die halo gaat zeker niet flexen, die moet het gewicht van 20 F1 auto's kunnen dragen ;)

      • + 0
      • 5 aug 2017 - 20:30
  • 0xygen

    Posts: 1.160

    padie lowe zegt hier al dat ze wel trucs gaan toepassen.

    • + 0
    • 5 aug 2017 - 20:42
  • Ik vraag me af of ze dit ding al eens op SPA hebben getest?
    Wat als ze nu Eau Rouge omhoog moeten, ik denk gezien hoe dat ding erop zit, je niet kan zien waar je naar toe rijdt.

    • + 1
    • 5 aug 2017 - 20:43
    • Ik kan je uit eigen ervaring vertellen dat Eau Rouge ook zonder halo al een blinde bocht is.

      • + 0
      • 6 aug 2017 - 11:54

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