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Welk nut dient de Stegosaurus-vin van Force India?

Welk nut dient de Stegosaurus-vin van Force India?

  • Gepubliceerd op 19 sep 2017 14:13
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Het team van Force India kwam voor de Grand Prix van Singapore met een in het oog springende update voor de VJM10 op de proppen. Naast een T-wing bestaande uit drie lagen had de Indiase renstal ook de bovenkant van de haaienvin aan weerszijden voorzien van allemaal kleine vleugeltjes.

De bijnamen varieerden van heggenschaar naar kartelrand. In de paddock doopte men de oplossing van Force India om tot 'Stegosaurus-vin'. De bedoeling achter de vleugeltjes bovenop de haaienvin is om allerlei kleine vortexen te creëren en zo de luchtstromen beter richting de T-wing en achtervleugel te dirigeren. Waarschijnlijk keert deze oplossing vaker terug op de circuits waar veel downforce vereist is, zoals Mexico City later dit jaar.

Red Bull Racing had eveneens aan pakket nieuwe onderdelen bij zich in Singapore. De meest opvallende update betrof de barge boards. De nieuwe barge boards van Red Bull Racing hadden veel weg van die van Ferrari. Sebastian Vettel repte zelfs over een regelrechte kopie. Het enige verschil was een extra dwarselement aan de binnenkant van de barge boards van Red Bull Racing ten opzichte van die van Ferrari.

dutchiceman

Posts: 4.572

Dat verklaard waarom Max in de sandwich zat. Beide Ferrari coureurs wouden die Bagde boards ee gewoon af rijden..;)

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  • 19 sep 2017 - 14:52
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  • Erik FW34

    Posts: 3.561

    Waar ik eigenlijk benieuwt naar ben is de werking van de T-wing. Ik begrijp waar de T-wing voor is, alleen als ik onboard beelden bekijk zie ik bij elk team dat ding op de haaienvin zo enorm bewegen dat ik de werking niet helemaal meer snap. Als je een luchtstroom wilt hebben met een wing dan wil je toch dat die wing zo goed als niet beweegt, athans niet o veel als ik op de onboard zie?

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    • 19 sep 2017 - 14:35
    • Maxiaans

      Posts: 7.967

      They are principally a ‘flow conditioning’ device, which has a small effect on clearing up the airflow to the (now for 2017 lower) rear wing assembly. The rear wing has to work the air hard to ‘activate’ the diffuser (the part at the rear of the floor) that produces something like 60% of the overall downforce of the vehicle with very little drag penalty.

      The reason they look so strange is that there is a 50mm ‘loophole’ in the regulations that allows the wing with a maximum chord length of 50mm.

      The wing (or wings in the case of Mercedes) will also be used to adjust the position of the centre of pressure (CoP) for aero stability etc.

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:55
    • Erik FW34

      Posts: 3.561

      Ik begrijp wat de T-wing doet. Ik begrijp alleen niet dat het werkt als het zo beweegt. Heb je diverse onboards gezien? Dat ding gaat door trillingen en flex van de haaienvin alle kanten op. Je kan dan toch geen fatsoenlijk luchtstroom creëren lijkt mij.

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 15:00
    • Maxiaans

      Posts: 7.967

      @Erik FW34, ik erger mij er ook aan en zeker op de HAAS'. Het ziet er niet mooi uit maar zal z'n werk doen zolang de teams die kleerhanger laten zitten.
      Het is vooral de haaienvin die zwabbert als een gek, op elke auto.

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 15:07
    • Erik FW34

      Posts: 3.561

      Het zal inderdaad wel werken als het erop zit maar ik wil graag weten "hoe dan" op moment dat ding alle kanten op gaat. Waarom zetten ze het bijvoorbeeld niet vast dat je luchtstroom constant is? Dat is eigenlijk mijn vraag :-)

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 15:34
    • delta9vdp

      Posts: 73

      Dat is de afweging kosten tegenover de baten die je doet. Met kosten bedoel ik niet alleen in euro's maar bijvoorbeeld ook het extra gewicht op een heel ongunstige locatie wat ze dan moeten meeslepen.

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 16:19
    • Maxiaans

      Posts: 7.967

      Tsjah @ErikFw34, kan ik je geen ander antwoord op geven dan de vergelijking met een 'ven' die in de woonkamer staat als het heel warm is en op de van links naar rechts stand staat. Dan zal de airflow ook allover de achtervleugel komen.

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 17:35
  • James Stunt

    Posts: 268

    Leuk als dat ding er af vliegt en de coureur daar achter dat ding om zijn nek gevouwen krijgt.

    • + 0
    • 19 sep 2017 - 14:36
  • Stitch

    Posts: 6.063

    Vettel repte van een regelrechte kopie. Niet dat Ferrari ooit iets zou kopieren ...

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    • 19 sep 2017 - 14:36
    • Erik FW34

      Posts: 3.561

      Kopie van wie ;-)

      Vettel had het echt over iets op een auto die op P2 was geeindigd en daar zit dit ding zeker niet op.

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:38
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      @ERIKFW: "De nieuwe barge boards van Red Bull Racing hadden veel weg van die van Ferrari. Sebastian Vettel repte zelfs over een regelrechte kopie."

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:49
    • dutchiceman

      Posts: 4.572

      Dat verklaard waarom Max in de sandwich zat. Beide Ferrari coureurs wouden die Bagde boards ee gewoon af rijden..;)

      • + 1
      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:52
    • Erik FW34

      Posts: 3.561

      Ok Stitch. Ik dacht dat je het had over de stegosaurus van de FI, niet goed gelezen.

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:56
    • Raikkonen-FAN

      Posts: 10.089

      @Stitch

      Olav Mol interpreteerde de grap van Vettel ook al als "aanval".. wat is dat toch voor vijandigheid.

      • + 0
      • 19 sep 2017 - 16:02
  • Darlos Cainz

    Posts: 5.665

    Mexico City veel downforce??? Dacht eerder een medium downforce baantje. Ook niet veel snelle bochten.

    • + 0
    • 19 sep 2017 - 14:39
    • JV fan

      Posts: 2.523

      circuit ligt op hoogte, waardoor de lucht veel ijler is, daardoor moeten ze met veel vleugel rijden om genoeg grip te hebben

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 14:43
  • bschuit

    Posts: 11.990

    Tja ,als het werkt heeft in no-time iedereen bepaalde "modificaties" ... Beter goed gejat dan slecht verzonnen...

    • + 0
    • 19 sep 2017 - 15:15
  • Mag Verslappen

    Posts: 2.647

    Die bargeboards van RBR en Ferrari leken zoveel op elkaar dat ze elkaar aantrokken als magneten bij de start.

    • + 0
    • 19 sep 2017 - 15:21
    • Max Verfspatten

      Posts: 240

      Naar verluidt kreeg VET een rode waas voor z'n ogen toen-ie vernam dat RBR iets van 'zijn' auto had gekopieerd. In een allesverzengende vlaag van grenzeloze woede heeft-ie daarom Max van de baan proberen te drukken. Wat hem zoals we allemaal wel weten dus prima is gelukt.

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      • 19 sep 2017 - 15:40

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