Oud-manager Michael Schumacher: "Familie moet openheid van zaken geven"

  • Gepubliceerd op 16 okt 2017 08:25
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  • Door: Rik Klein Entink

Voormalig manager van Michael Schumacher,  Willi Weber, is van mening dat de familie openheid van zaken zou moeten geven rond de toestand van de Formule 1-legende. Dat zegt Weber tegen een krant uit München, de TZ. 

Het is inmiddels bijna vier jaar geleden dat Schumacher in de Franse Alpen een skiongeluk kreeg. De zevenvoudig wereldkampioen liep ernstig hersenletsel op, maar wat exact de toestand van Schumacher is heeft de familie altijd privé gehouden. Op dit moment zijn er, zo schrijft TZ, geruchten dat hij van Zwitserland naar de Verenigde Staten wordt overgebracht en dat zijn gezondheidstoestand er op vooruit zou gaan, maar dat is niet bevestigd. 

Die onduidelijkheid is volgens Weber toe te schrijven aan de familie en het huidige management. "Ik vind het erg onfortuinlijk dat Michaels fans niets weten over zijn gezondheid. Waarom wordt hen niet de waarheid verteld?" zo zegt Weber. 

Weber heeft ook nog kritiek op de Formule 1 en maakt de vergelijking met zijn rug waaraan hij net aan geopereerd is: "Formule 1 is zoals mijn rug: erg pijnlijk. Het is niets meer dan een Mickey Mouse-show, de sport verdwijnt steeds meer naar de achtergrond."

 

Samsonait

Posts: 623

1. Dat is de familie zijn keuze,
2. Dat is de familie zijn keuze,
3. De familie en vrienden van de Schumachers *moeten* niets.
4. Michael is geen object en ook niet eigendom van de fans.
en 5. dat is de familie zijn keuze.

Beetje dom gelul.

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  • 16 okt 2017 - 08:33

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  • Samsonait

    Posts: 623

    1. Dat is de familie zijn keuze,
    2. Dat is de familie zijn keuze,
    3. De familie en vrienden van de Schumachers *moeten* niets.
    4. Michael is geen object en ook niet eigendom van de fans.
    en 5. dat is de familie zijn keuze.

    Beetje dom gelul.

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    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:33
    • hear, hear, hear!

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 08:50
    • haar, haar, haar keuze

      voor de rest mee eens...

      • + 4
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:06
    • Eens dat de familie niets hoeft maar slim is het totaal niet. Doordat ze niets loslaten is er al jaren een gigantische druk op de familie. In feite lopen ze met een groot geheim rond. Als media adviseur zou ik ze adviseren om aan de wereld een kort statement te geven waarin wordt aangegeven wat Michaels conditie is inclusief outlook. Daarna kan iedereen zelf wel vaststellen dat Michaels strijd nog jaren gaat duren en zal de media minder gaan vissen. Ook beter voor de carrière van Mick. Voor hem zal er dan ook minder druk zijn.

      • + 2
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:21
    • Het is de mening van Willie Weber. Als hij dit vindt, dan mag hij dit vinden toch?

      • + 11
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:29
    • sailor

      Posts: 11.131

      Die druk zal wel meevallen , dat was in het begin wel even , maar op een gegeven moment leggen de fans en de media zich er wel bij neer dat de familie Schumacher niets bekend wil maken over de toestand van Michael

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:38
    • Samsonait

      Posts: 623

      @Darlos Cainz Snap ik wel, maar als de familie met een statement naar buiten komt dat het *goed* gaat, of *beter* dan hebben ze morgen weer de tuin en de straat vol paparazzi en camerateams. Dat ze het stil houden vind ik prima. Zij hebben rust nodig en Michael op zijn manier misschien ook. Weet niet waarop je baseert dat Mick druk zou hebben, denk dat hij wel training krijgt om daar mee om te gaan aangezien zijn achternaam nogal een grote is. Media vist altijd, of je nou een statement naar buiten brengt of niet. Het is *haar* @straks verstappen al zo mooi omschreef. Haar keuze om niets naar buiten te brengen en wij hebben dat maar te respecteren toch.. Of het nou je buurman is of iemand met een carrière als Michael.

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      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:56
    • Hij is wel eigendom van de fans, ook daarom zijn de salarissen zo hoog voor f1 legendes, want je levert aan privacy in. Om vervolgens de fans dan te laten stikken is zelfs wel een streek die bij Schumacher zou passen gezien zijn rijstijl. De familie zou naar buiten moeten treden. Direct.

      • + 2
      • 16 okt 2017 - 11:25
    • aap

      Posts: 1.366

      wat een lul met zn Mickey Mouse-show

      willi wil ook even aandacht

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 11:56
    • Er is wel degelijk druk op veel vlakken:

      1: De Familie kan Michael bijvoorbeeld niet zomaar in het openbaar vervoeren zonder deze acties minutieus voor te bereiden zodat de media er geen lucht van krijgt.
      2: Ze houden Michael afzijdig van alle honderden vrienden/collega's/kennissen die Michael in zijn leven heeft opgedaan/waarmee hij een relatie had. Ze zullen dus al heel wat verzoeken tot contact hebben moeten afwijzen.
      3: Zolang de situatie van zijn papa niet duidelijk is zal Mick Schumacher geconfronteerd blijven met vragen die hij niet wil beantwoorden.

      Ikzelf wijt 'de schijt aan de rest vd wereld' mentaliteit volledig toe aan Corinna Schumacher. Een opportunistische vrouw die H.H. Frentzen dumpte toen ze doorkreeg dat Michael's ster rijzende was. Michael zat buiten de circuits om volledig onder de plak van zijn vrouw. Dat we dus niets meer van Michael horen is dus naar mijn mening niet zo vreemd. Zijn vrouw bepaald alles en beheert ondertussen zijn miljoenenvermogen.

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:32
    • Forti Ford

      Posts: 80

      Lekker boeiend allemaal

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:35
    • Numnum

      Posts: 4.863

      Als ik de naam Michael voor een advertentie gebruik moet je eens zien hoe snel er een advocaat komt uitleggen dat er wel degelijk sprake van “eigendommen” is.

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      • 16 okt 2017 - 14:20
  • De familie Schumacher MOET helemaal niets. Wat zit die vent te zwetsen. Ik zou bijna zeggen, waar haalt hij het grote lef vandaan. Natuurlijk ben ik ook benieuwd naar de toestand van Schumacher en gun ik de beste man en zijn omgeving het beste. Maar wanneer de familie het stil houd en geen zin heeft in een mediacircus dan moet je dat gewoon respecteren.

    • + 9
    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:34
    • Had het niet beter kunnen zeggen, ze zijn niemand wat verschuldigd!

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 08:40
    • hear, hear, hear, hear!!

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 08:52
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Goede wijn wordt beter met de jaren. Slechte wijn verandert in azijn.
    Willie behoort niet tot de betere wijnen blijft nu wel.
    Als manager had hij beter moeten weten en zou hij onvoorwaardelijk achter de familie moeten gaan. Gewoon uit vriendschap en respect voor wat Michael ook hem heeft gebracht.
    Gaat nu Di Montezemolo achterna, die was ook al zo zuur dat hij niet door de familie op de hoogte werd gehouden. Dit onderstreept nog maar eens dat Corinna het juist had ingeschat en precies weet wie ze buiten de deur moet houden.
    Wens Michael gewoon het beste Willie en steun ze in hun strijd. De fans hebben de races om zich aan vast te houden en privé kenden ze Michael niet en hebben op dat deel van zijn leven geen recht. Simpel as that.

    • + 3
    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:36
    • Tja Weber praat vanuit zijn eigen situatie, ik meen wel eens gelezen te hebben (weet niet of iemand hier ermee kwam?) dat Weber niet zo 'netjes' behandeld is door de familie van Schumacher, maar meer weet ik daar niet over. Misschien speelt dat mee?
      Voor de rest heeft natuurlijk Weber een enorm grote rol gespeeld in Schumi's loopbaan, hij heeft zowat alles aan die man te danken.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 08:42
    • Omgekeerd heeft Weber ook alles aan Schumacher te danken @Jean

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 10:19
    • Musky

      Posts: 2.187

      Waarom geeft Weber geen openlijkheid over zichzelf.... Michael heeft Weber er uit geknikkerd door zijn wanprestaties.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 21:17
  • Eens met Weber vwb de vergelijking tussen F1 en zijn pijnlijke rug!
    Maar de familie Schumacher moet lekker zelf bepalen of ze iets naar buiten brengen, en zo ja; wat. Ik ben Schumacher fan maar dan van de coureur die hij was. Zijn huidige situatie vind ik privé. Zou hij gestopt zijn en nog gezond dan zou ik ook geen interesse hebben in zijn privé situatie.

    • + 0
    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:36
    • sailor

      Posts: 11.131

      Ik zou op dit moment niet eens zijn toestand of uiterlijk willen zien van Michael , wij weten allemaal hoe Michael er uit zag tijdens zijn loopbaan in de formule 1 , je hoeft echt geen universiteit af te hebben om te weten dat Michael er nu heel anders uitziet en wil ik dat wel zien? nee eerlijk gezegd niet..

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:45
    • precies, een verzwakte Schumacher? Moet je niet willen zien, beter herinneren hoe hij was in z'n toptijden..

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:52
  • vanHeutz

    Posts: 146

    De arrogantie dat je de familie in zo'n situatie denkt te kunnen opleggen wat ze moeten doen. Ik proef tussen de regels door veel oud zeer en ook zijn rare bewoordingen over de Formule 1. Volgens mij baalt hij dat hij geen onderdeel meer van de Formule 1 is en dat hem dat fors geld kost.

    • + 1
    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:45
  • Arie54

    Posts: 4.960

    De familie Schumacher moet helemaal niks! Tenminste, ze moeten vooral doen wat zij willen en verder hebben ze op geen enkele manier een verplichting naar buiten toe.

    • + 1
    • 16 okt 2017 - 08:51
  • racer013

    Posts: 366

    Duidelijke taal hier. Ik zie het iets genuanceerder. Michael was door zijn F1 carriëre een publiek figuur geworden. De rijkdom die hij genoot heeft hij aan de sport en dus ook aan de fans en de media te danken. De kliniek aan huis voor 12 miljoen euro die Cornna liet bouwen dus ook. Evenals de peperdure behandeling in Amerika.
    De familie heeft geen verplcihting om naar buiten te treden, echter van moreel oogpunt vind ik dat Weber een punt heeft. Met eens in de zoveel tijd een update geven creëer je nog geen mediacurcus.

    • + 8
    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:14
    • ik weet niet wat voor werk jij doet, maar 100% kans dat je geld verdiend doordat er wat verkocht wordt aan derden. Maw jouw (of je werkgevers) klanten hebben ook recht op nieuws over jou?
      gelul van de bovenste orde..
      laat de fam Schumacher gewoon doen wat zij goed achten te moeten doen.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:29
    • Helemaal mee eens !!

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:45
    • @Racer, als Weber het zo zou formuleren zoals jij het zegt is er ook weinig aan de hand, hij geeft aan dat de familie openheid van zaken moet geven...

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 10:00
    • Zo zie ik het toch echt niet. Dit is namelijk geheel in overeenstemming met hoe Michael het zelf deed. Privé was privé, daar kwam zelden iets over naar buiten. Corina zal dit willen blijven voortzetten in navolging van Michael.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 10:00
    • Ondertussen beheert Corinna het vermogen van Michael verdiend door alle media aandacht maar houd lekker alles voor zichzelf en heeft schijt aan de buitenwereld. Ik heb medelijden met Michael maar ik heb schijt aan Corinna want ze heeft ook schijt aan ons die fan zijn van sportheld Michael Schumacher.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 16:58
    • Ach schei toch uit, Michael deed zelf ook alles om buiten de baan de pers te vermijden.

      • + 0
      • 17 okt 2017 - 08:43
  • Het de familie zijn keuze waar ik alle begrip voor heb eigenlijk wil ik het niet weten hoe zijn toestand is. Over de F1 heeft hij wel gelijk.

    • + 0
    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:24
  • Nogal laf om de fans te misbruiken omdat jezelf zo nieuwsgierig bent.

    Ongetwijfeld heeft hij een grote en positieve rol hebben gespeeld in de carrière van Michael maar hij zal niet voor niets de deur uit zijn gezet.

    Voor mij hoeven dergelijke berichten niet meer geplaatst te worden want de familie Schumacher, die al jaren lijdt onder deze verschikkelijke situatie, wordt zo nog eens onnodig beschimpt.

    • + 2
    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:24
  • Als we de toendertijd uitvoerige analyse van Dr. Gary Hartstein teruglezen, weten we toch al hoe Schumacher er aan toe is, helaas.
    Beetje ongepast dit van Weber.

    • + 2
    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:27
    • En dan is "beetje" nog op een aardige manier gezegd.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 10:21
    • Als aanvulling.
      Copy/paste;

      De Amerikaan zegt later in zijn blog over de inmiddels al zes maanden durende coma: “Slechts een kleine, kleine fractie van patiënten komt ooit weer bij”, waar hij aan toevoegt: “Ik ben erg bang, vrijwel zeker, dat we nooit goed nieuws over Michael te horen zullen krijgen.

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      • 16 okt 2017 - 11:09
  • Elke patient is anders natuurlijk. Maar dat het niet top is dat snappen we ook helaas.
    Ik wil het ook gewoon niet weten hoe het met hem gaat ik wil hem herinneren zoals hij was.

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    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:36
  • Voormalig F1 arts Gary Hartstein zei er destijds dit over.
    Enorme lap tekst, maar voor diegene die geïnteresseerd zijn wellicht interessant.

    As with everything that I’ve said, tweeted or written since Michael’s accident, I need to make clear that I have not seen Michael, not seen his scans, and not had any contact with the medical team caring for him. I’m going to base the following on what has been said by his care team, on the things that have not been said (by anyone), and on my clinical experience (and that of colleagues) with similarly injured patients.

    What is likely happening now? Michael is almost certainly still in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU). I say this primarily because it is rather likely that he still requires this level of care given his injuries, but also because had he been moved from the ICU to a normal room, this would have been sufficiently newsworthy to have almost certainly been announced. If Michael’s breathing is still handled by a respirator, he will almost certainly have had a tracheostomy done. This is more comfortable for the patient, spares the patient from potential damage to the vocal cords, and can make weaning from the respirator easier. It can also be easily closed later, when appropriate.

    More importantly is the question of the “artificial coma”. Now those of you who’ve been reading me since the beginning have no doubt noticed that I HATE the term “artificial coma”. It’s confusing and doesn’t transmit any useful information. Initially Michael was no doubt maintained at a VERY deep level of sedation, deep enough to virtually suppress most electric activity in the cerebral cortex (the outer layer of the brain, responsible for higher intellectual functioning). This was done to help manage what were extremely high and dangerous levels of intracranial pressure (ICP, see previous blog entries).

    Now that the acute phase of the injury has largely passed, it is almost certain that ICP is no longer problematic. The swelling and bruising are being resorbed. This means that the sedation will certainly have been lightened. Remember that having a tube in the windpipe is a pretty significant and painful stimulus. So sedation is almost always needed to help the patient tolerate the tube, to allow mechanical ventilation, and permit all the other “aggressions” that are part of day-to-day ICU routine. If this is the case, then the care team will be repeatedly, and considerably, lightening the sedation, in order to start weaning Michael from the ventilator, and to allow neurologic evaluation.

    This would be good – if the sedation is light, and if respiratory weaning (getting Michael to breathe by himself) is progressing, with a neurological status that allows this, then we can relax for a few weeks, and see how the situation evolves. This situation would mean progress has been made, and renders further prognostication impossible. Progress will continue at an unknown and unknowable speed, and will stop at an unknown and unknowable level of function.

    It is also conceivable, at the other end of the “goodness” spectrum, that the sedation has been turned off, that Michael is tolerating the tube, but is neither breathing adequately on his own nor showing significant signs of emerging. You understand that tolerating a tube with no sedation implies rather severe problems with deep levels of the brain, as does the lack of adequate breathing despite stopping the sedatives. At three weeks post injury, this is the worst outcome we could hope for, as it would indicate a rather high probability that normal consciousness will not be regained.

    A brief word about the terms “critical” and “stable”. First of all, as used with respect to the condition of hospitalised patients, neither is precisely defined. So it’s important to see them rather more like an impressionistic image than as an accurate statement of physiology. Critical means imminent life threat or threat to a vital system. Stable means that something is not changing, and is usually being maintained within normal limits. So Michael is no longer CRITICAL (the ICP has normalised), and STABLE, as his physiological parameters are now acceptably “constant”.

    Ok let’s get down to the hard stuff here. What are the possible outcomes? I’ll look at some of them, mostly with an eye to defining terms we’re likely to see thrown about in the near future, so that we can be precise ourselves, and be critical when faced with imprecise, ambiguous, or misleading information from others (are you listening Daily Mail?).

    Now remember, all we know with certainty about Michael’s injuries comes from the press conferences given by his care team. After explaining the how and why of evacuating the right-side extradural hematoma (on the Sunday) and then the left-sided intracerebral hematoma (on the Monday), the neurosurgeon let slip a VERY telling statement.

    I’m almost quoting him here, translating from the French. He said “don’t think that we evacuated two hematomas and that’s it”. “Michael has lots of hematomas in his brain, on the left, on the right, and in the middle”.

    Damn. See, the “middle” is where all the important stuff happens – awareness, arousal, control of blood pressure, respiration, swallowing etc. And the left – well that’s usually language. Etc etc. The neurosurgeon, intentionally or not, painted a rather catastrophic neurologic picture.

    First off let me say that it is EXTREMELY unlikely (I’d honestly say virtually impossible) that the Michael we knew prior to this fall will ever be back.

    I think that it will have to be considered to be a triumph of human physical resiliency, and of modern neurointensive care, if Michael is able to walk, feed himself, dress himself, and if he retains significant elements of his previous personality. If recovery proceeds to this point (which is totally POSSIBLE, if perhaps rather improbable), it is an open question as to how well the “higher functions” (memory, concentration, reading, planning, etc) will recover. Please note, I would love to be proven wrong about this!

    At the other end of the spectrum would be continued coma. Coma is defined as a state where there is neither wakefulness nor awareness (the patient cannot be woken by stimuli), no meaningful interaction with the environment, and no voluntary actions. This is obviously catastrophic. This outcome is entirely possible based on what we know about the brain’s primary injuries (the fall, the hematomas, bruises, etc) as well as the relatively long period with high ICP.

    It happens that patients in coma emerge sufficiently to show spontaneous eye-opening, and even sleep-wake cycles (demonstrating wakefulness or arousal), but show no interaction with the environment, and no signs of any higher function (thought, speech, etc). This is called a vegetative state. Definitions vary somewhat, but usually after four weeks it is termed a persistent vegetative state, and after one year it is called a permanent vegetative state. Very roughly speaking, about 50% of head trauma patients who are in a vegetative state one month after injury become conscious, often with significant neurologic impairment. If the vegetative state persists for six months, this falls to roughly 20%, usually with severe impairment. After one year, resumption of normal consciousness is very rare, and, when it happens, function is usually gravely altered.

    Whereas a patient in a vegetative state shows no signs of awareness, a patient in a minimally conscious state will show definite signs of awareness of either self and/or of the environment. This may include obeying simple orders, some intelligible language use, or other behaviors that seem “goal directed”. Examples would be appropriate emotional responses, appropriate eye tracking, consistent and appropriate movement or vocalisation in response to language (not just sounds). These signs usually fluctuate through the day, and over time. Importantly, the chances of meaningful recovery from a minimally conscious state are higher than from a vegetative state. They are however, still disappointingly low.

    There is certainly reason for worry – lot’s of worry. But no reason to lose hope. Everyone who works with head-injured patients has seen VERY severely injured patients (who were not expected to do well) recover acceptably. All we can do is wait, pray, and be behind Michael and his loved ones

    • + 1
    • 16 okt 2017 - 09:53
    • sailor

      Posts: 11.131

      Dat is een behoorlijk lap ja, daar kan ik goed mijn auto mee poetsen , en dan houd ik nog schone gedeeltes over op die lap ;-)

      • + 2
      • 16 okt 2017 - 09:58
    • louc_

      Posts: 2.303

      Vertaal dat eens Mr Monza! dank je

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 12:41
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Schumacher was gesteld op zijn privacy - but not THAT much!
    Er zijn vele bekenden die niet voor hun handicap wegvluchten, zowel binnen als buiten F1, denk aan Michael J. Fox, Magic Johnson, Christopher Reeve, of dichter bij huis Koos Alberts. Ook Niki Lauda en Frank Williams korpen niet weg onder een stoel.
    Wat mij betreft is de kwestie verschoven van in je recht staan naar een kwestie van fatsoen. Het zou gewoon heel netjes zijn om miljoenen fans te laten weten wat er met hun held is gebeurd. Zoals de familie er nu mee omgaat vind ik behoorlijk respectloos, maar verder ook niet. Het blijft hun keuze, en het blijft mijn mening.

    • + 5
    • 16 okt 2017 - 10:31
    • Met dien verstande dat de bekenden waar jij het over hebt geestelijk in staat waren/zijn om die beslissing voor zichzelf te maken....en dat zal bij Schumacher waarschijnlijk niet het geval zijn.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 10:46
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Dan mis je het punt. Van Syd Barret was ook bekend wat er met hem aan de hand was, of talloze beroemdheden met Alzheimer. Het werkelijk enige verschil is dat in het geval Schumacher extreem verkrampt wordt gedaan.

      • + 2
      • 16 okt 2017 - 11:09
    • Jij noemde Syd Barret helemaal niet in jou post....en mensen met Alzheimer zijn niet meteen geestelijk onbekwaam om iets te kunnen zeggen of denken.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 11:46
    • @Caramba, ik zie ook niet in hoe je nou vanachter een toestenbord de situaties van bijv Koos Alberts kunt vergelijken met die van Schumacher. Misschien is het wel heel begrijpelijk dat ze Schumacher geheel uit de publiciteit willen houden als je z'n toestand zou weten?
      Bovendien, wat voor soort (echte!) fans willen die ellende weten? Sensatie beluste mensen, en die zouden er nog liefst duidelijke foto's bij hebben.

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:06
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Je loopt nu echt te zeuren Jean.

      • + 1
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:22
    • ja maar het is maandag

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      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:26
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Daar heb je wel een punt, ja. :-)

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:40
  • Ik kan me niet voorstellen dat Schumacher hiervoor gekozen had, als hij dat kon. Wat bereik je hiermee? Miljoenen fans in ongewis laten voor jaren lang, mensen die eeuwig trouw waren aan hem. En dan mag je niet weten hoe het met hem gaat. Nu al 4 jaar, absurd..

    • + 3
    • 16 okt 2017 - 11:56
    • Ik vraag me ook af hoe de bekendheid over zijn conditie in het F1 wereldje is. Zouden coureurs als Vettel, Rosberg of Hamilton wel weten hoe het met Michael is? Of zijn oud-teambazen van Ferrari of Mercedes? Of zouden die zelfs in het ongewisse zijn?

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:05
    • ik denk (!) dat slechts een enkeling zoals Brawn en Todt (die Schumacher al ns hebben bezocht) wat meer weten dan wij. Overgrote deel weet het wellicht ook niet.

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      • 16 okt 2017 - 13:08
    • Musky

      Posts: 2.187

      Willy Weber past in het rijtje van ramptoerist.:)

      • + 0
      • 16 okt 2017 - 21:27
  • Dikkedop

    Posts: 723

    Ze moeten niets!!! Maar ik kan niet ontkennen dat ik smacht naar het verhaal! Hoe gaat het met de magistrale F1 held? ligt hij de hele dag op bed aan de beademing? kan hij lopen? Weet hij wie hij is, wat hij bereikt heeft?

    Ik snap de opmerking en denk dat deze extra uit vergroot wordt. Hebben zijn miljoenen fans geen recht op de waarheid?

    Ik hoop het te horen!

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    • 16 okt 2017 - 13:43
  • Ik vind het wel zeer bijzonder dat er niks gelekt word..geen nieuwje..geen fot ..helemaal niks.
    Respect voor de naasten en dat ze dat lang vol kunnen houden...wat ze willen gewoon nieuws om de roddelbladen weer te vullen.

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    • 16 okt 2017 - 13:53
  • De familie moet doen wat ze denken dat goed is, wat de rest van de wereld daar van vind is niet belangrijk.

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    • 16 okt 2017 - 13:59
  • volvo850

    Posts: 11

    Mickey Mouse-show ?!?!?! waar Duitsland dus niet genoeg geld voor heeft !!!!

    • + 0
    • 16 okt 2017 - 14:32
  • In principe hoeven ze niks te zeggen om te weten hoe het gaat..als het goed ging hadden ze het wel van de daken geschreeuwd en hadden we hem al een keer gezien..

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    • 17 okt 2017 - 07:32

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