Symonds: "Massa gaat nog gemist worden in de Formule 1"

  • Gepubliceerd op 23 nov 2017 14:44
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Williams-coureur Felipe Massa staat aan de vooravond van zijn laatste race als Formule 1-coureur. De teller stokt straks na 269 Grands Prix op het hoogste niveau. De Braziliaan houdt de koningsklasse van de autosport voor gezien en dat vindt Pat Symonds jammer. "Het was altijd een genot om met Felipe samen te werken", aldus de voormalig technisch directeur van Williams tegenover Speed Week.

Symonds vervolgt: "Felipe heeft zich altijd als een gentleman opgesteld, hij is echt een geweldig persoon. Nooit eerder heb ik zulke sterke reacties op het pensioen van een coureur meegemaakt. Dat toont wel aan hoe populair hij in de paddock is. Felipe is een echte familieman en hij gaat nog gemist worden in de Formule 1."

Door het vertrek van Massa staat er volgend jaar geen Braziliaan op de Formule 1-grid. Symonds: "Hoe is het mogelijk? Jaren geleden kwamen de Zuid-Amerikanen massaal naar Europa om te racen in Formule Ford of Formule 3. Emerson Fittipaldi, Nelson Piquet, Ayrton Senna en al die anderen hebben die weg afgelegd. Zij konden de oceaan oversteken met dank aan sponsors. Ik vraag me dan ook sterk af of de Braziliaanse economie nog wel sterk genoeg is om coureurs te ondersteunen."

"Ik weet zeker dat het hier gaat om een sponsorprobleem. De vijver met talenten is groter dan ooit. Alleen kunnen sommige goede coureurs niet die stap zetten omdat ze geen geld hebben. Dat is spijtig, want de Formule 1 is gebaat bij rijders van over de hele wereld. Ik loop al een tijd in deze sport rond en altijd is er wel een Braziliaanse coureur geweest. Ongelooflijk dat daar nu een einde aan komt."

CTRA

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De hype rond het moeten hebben van een Braziliaanse coureur in de F1 vind ik ook overtrokken.
Sinds 1950 zijn er 31 Braziliaanse coureurs geweest, waarvan er maar 6 boven gemiddeld tot superieur waren.
Senna, Barrichello, Massa, Piquet, Fittipaldi en Pace.

De rest was ook niet veel meer dan veld... [Lees verder]

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  • NicoS

    Posts: 16.770

    Als er een coureur is die alles uit zijn carriere heeft gehaald, dan is het Massa wel.
    Respect voor wat hij heeft bereikt, maar missen zal ik hem niet.

    • + 1
    • 23 nov 2017 - 14:51
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      Op de laatste 8 jaar na dan bedoel je.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:13
    • Dat laatste rondje beschrijft zijn hele carrière... net niet. Hamilton lacht nog steeds in zijn vuistje.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:44
  • Door het vertrek van Massa staat er volgend jaar geen Braziliaan op de Formule 1-grid. Symonds: "Hoe is het mogelijk?
    Maar wel weer een Pool, of dat nou zo'n verbetering is.....we gaan het zien. De hype is in ieder geval groter als mijn verwachting.

    • + 1
    • 23 nov 2017 - 14:53
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      De hype rond het moeten hebben van een Braziliaanse coureur in de F1 vind ik ook overtrokken.
      Sinds 1950 zijn er 31 Braziliaanse coureurs geweest, waarvan er maar 6 boven gemiddeld tot superieur waren.
      Senna, Barrichello, Massa, Piquet, Fittipaldi en Pace.

      De rest was ook niet veel meer dan veldvulling.

      • + 3
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:05
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      Diniz ontbreekt in je rijtje.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:14
    • @MASF1 goed lezen wat CTRA zegt: Hij noemt alleen de bovengemiddeld tot superieure Braziliaanse coureurs...de rest inclusief Diniz is het niet waard om bij naam te noemen en daar sluit ik mij bij aan :)

      • + 1
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:18
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      In zo rijtje hoort Bernoldi ook thuis.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:21
    • Zolang het geen negatieve invloed op het voortbestaan van de GP van Brazilië heeft is m.i. de ‘schade’ ook wel te overzien.

      Desalniettemin is een nieuwe Braziliaan van het genoemde niveau altijd welkom. Tot die tijd hebben ze nog altijd Max...

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:42
  • Iemand nog kiespijn?

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 14:54
  • Ja Pat, als je van je afscheid ook zo’n lang drama maakt krijg je vanzelf veel reacties. Wil wel meteen er aan toevoegen dat ’t niet bepaald alleen aan Felipe lag.

    Met het woord ‘sterke’ wordt echter verbloemd dat de meeste reacties niet altijd positief zullen zijn geweest, voornamelijk doordat de Braziliaan te lang is doorgegaan.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 14:54
  • Vorig jaar had ik hem gemist als hij was gestopt:-)

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 14:57
    • Vorig jaar bij zn afscheid heb ik hier zelfs nog een mooie emotionele post geplaats, speciaal om hem te eren. Hij die al zo lang deel vd f1 uitmaakt, vele hoogtepunten maar ook tragische dieptepnten heeft gekend. Die post kwam recht uit het hart!

      Maar ik blijf niet aan de gang, wegwezen nou Flip

      • + 1
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:18
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      Waarschijnlijk was je dronken,kan gebeuren.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:22
  • Als kiespijn

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:04
  • volgens de Poll op deze site mist 93% hem niet. Ik iig ook niet.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:20
  • masf1

    Posts: 7.074

    Heeft Kubica trouwens een bijnaam?vroeg ik me af.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:28
    • Robert

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:31
    • Droopy

      Posts: 632

      @MASF1 : geen idee of hij er één heeft. We kunnen hem er natuurlijk wel 1 geven. Wat dacht je van Zuidpool, Noordpool, Tegenpool. :-)

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:38
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      Eerst zien of het doorgaat en dan pas lopen we de Poolonaise

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:41
    • Kubica-The kube (cube but with a k)

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:47
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      In het Hybride tijdperk weet ik wel een mooie naam THE Accu Pool.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 15:51
    • Droopy

      Posts: 632

      Nog eentje om het af te leren : CarPool

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 16:25
    • Jazeker, The Polish Denzel Wasinghton

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 16:35
    • Jullie weten toch hopelijk wel dat Olav Mol zijn naam al jaren verkeerd uitspreekt?
      Op zijn Pools is het meer Koebiesja.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:45
    • Voor de wat ouderen onder ons en ohan Derksen heeft het er vaak over:

      Cubyca & The Blizzards.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:51
    • Johan

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:53
    • De post met alleen ‘Johan’ was een correctie, geen voorstel voor een bijnaam van Kubica...

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:55
    • 919

      Posts: 2.372

      Ik wil wel een nieuwe voorstellen?

      Troetelpool

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:37
    • Poolsitter

      • + 2
      • 23 nov 2017 - 19:03
    • Halve Pool

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 23:09
  • echnie.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:31
  • Dikkedop

    Posts: 723

    Wie is massa?

    • + 1
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:47
  • Ik zal hem ook niet missen maar dit soort berichten versterkt wel mijn nieuwsgierigheid hoe zijn opvolger het zal doen.
    Ik had zo verschrikkelijk graag een topcoureur in de Williams gezien zodat je weet waar ze écht staan. Als Kubica het straks aardig doet denk je toch bij je eigen: "Hoe zou Hulkenberg, Sainz, Perez of Ricciardo het in die auto gedaan hebben."
    Stroll is natuurlijk geen parameter.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 15:50
  • Mwaoh, gemist worden , 2017/18, morgen is men je vergeten... Wel iemand die ondertussen een beetje bij het interieur hoorde , oud behang ,het zit al jaren op de muur maar eigenlijk geen idee hoe het er uit ziet... Maar mooie carriere hoor ,absoluut....

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 16:23
  • Niets is nog zeker bij Williams, het zou hilarisch zijn als Williams Massa voor nog een jaar vraagt. Ik denk dat Massa nog toehapt ook :D

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 16:23
  • Het maakt toch helemaal geen flikker uit welke nationaliteiten er rondrijden in de F1. Vroeger was Brazilie ook een topland als het aankwam op voetbal, nu niet meer! klaar! Tijden veranderen, en da's maar goed ook!

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 17:00
    • Ja, vroeger stelde het Nederlands Elftal ook nog wat voor. Inmiddels worden ze overklast door de Oranje Leeuwinnen...

      • + 1
      • 23 nov 2017 - 17:46
    • In de ideale F1-wereld zou het puur om de twintig (nog liever een veld van 26) beste coureurs van dit aardbolletje moeten gaan.
      Als die bij toeval verspreid van over de hele wereld zouden komen zou dat een leuke bijkomstigheid zijn, meer niet.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:06
  • Massa was een talent. Maar wanneer je structureel niet het maximale uit het pakket haalt dan verlies je krediet met bakken tegelijk. En dat is sneu, want er is best een mooie carrière overall gezien.
    27

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 17:11
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Felipe is een echte familyman en hij gaat nog gemist worden in de F1. Lijkt wel een grafrede! Het slaat helemaal nergens op. Van Massa zijn er 30 van in een dozijn.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 17:29
  • Als Massa echt zo gemist zou worden had Symonds geen reden gezien om het zo expliciet te roeptoeteren. Dit is bijna een oproep dat Felipe net snel vergeten mag worden.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 18:12
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      Pat had t over gemiste kansen,maar weer verkeerd vertaalt.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:18
    • Mijn post had moeten zijn (in de laatste zin): ... Felipe NIET snel vergeten mag worden.


      @MasF1. Snap niet wat je bedoelt, of staat het los van mijn post?

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:37
    • masf1

      Posts: 7.074

      hij word niet gemist,maar gemiste kansen,verkeerd vertaald door de site.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 19:50
    • @MasF1. Volgens mij is het dit keer prima vertaald. Uit het origineel van Speed Week:

      Abu Dhabi wird zum letzten Grand Prix von Felipe Massa. Bei Williams hat Symonds jahrelang mit dem Brasilianer zusammengearbeitet. Der Engländer schwärmt: “Es war immer angenehm, mit Felipe zu arbeiten. Er ist ein wahrer Gentleman, ein fabelhafter Mensch. Noch nie habe ich im Fahrerlager so starke Reaktionen erlebt auf den Rücktritt eines Piloten. Das zeigt, wie beliebt er ist. Er ist ein echter Familienmensch, und die Formel 1 wird ihn vermissen.”

      @MasF1, weet niet waar jij die “gemiste kansen” vandaan haalt?

      • + 0
      • 24 nov 2017 - 01:34
  • In mijn herinnering gegrift; de wereldkampioen tot de laatste bocht en het gevecht met Kubica op Fuji in de stromende regen.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 18:14
    • 2007, Geweldig was dat, Ham die een duitser inhaalt in laatste bocht.

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 18:35
    • 2007 Was Kimi gewoon Kampioen hoor :-)

      • + 1
      • 23 nov 2017 - 20:05
  • JV fan

    Posts: 2.523

    misschien niet echt als coureur, maar wel als persoon :(

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 18:56
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Ook niet als persoon (voor mij althans)

      • + 0
      • 23 nov 2017 - 19:34
  • De man heeft gelijk, het is de post met de meeste reactie's.

    • + 0
    • 23 nov 2017 - 19:14
  • ARW

    Posts: 1.092

    ? Reed hij mee in 2017?

    • + 1
    • 23 nov 2017 - 19:15
    • Als je er zelf maar om kan lachen toch?

      • + 1
      • 23 nov 2017 - 20:11
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Veel belangrijker dan die blabla over Massa vind ik wat hier tussen de regels staat - namelijk het idee dat je als F1-coureur automatisch tot de beste ter wereld behoort. Een hardnekkig sprookje dat met man en macht, met name de media, in stand wordt gehouden. Ik zou niet raar opkijken als er 10 Braziliaantjes rondlopen die bv een Stroll om de oren rijden, maar daartoe nooit de kans krijgen. Voorts is Brazilië bepaald niet het enige land waar talenten het niet redden vanwege hun afkomst.

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    • 24 nov 2017 - 00:26

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