Steiner: "Haas bewijs dat nieuwe teams geen schande hoeven zijn"

  • Gepubliceerd op 27 dec 2017 15:43
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  • Door: Bjorn Smit

Haas F1 Team heeft haar tweede seizoen in de Formule 1 afgesloten op de achtste plaats in het constructeurskampioenschap. De achterstand op de zesde plaats van Renault was slechts tien punten en teambaas Günther Steiner vindt dat het team daarmee bewezen heeft dat nieuwkomers de Formule 1 niet hoeven te beschamen.

De vorige generatie nieuwkomers, die in 2010 de sport betraden, had het bijzonder lastig. HRT, Lotus/Caterham en Virgin/Marussia/Manor kwamen de Formule 1 binnen met de verwachting dat er een budgetplafond zou komen, maar die kwam er niet. Eind 2016 verdween met Manor het laatste team van die generatie.

Haas smeedde voor haar entree in de Formule 1 een technische alliantie met Ferrari en werd in beide seizoenen achtste in het kampioenschap voor constructeurs. "Toen wij het eerste seizoen binnenkwamen, werd er gezegd dat het niks zou worden", vertelde Steiner tegen Autosport. "Ze zeiden dat het tweede seizoen nog moeilijker zou worden."

"Ik zou daar nooit arrogant met 'ja, dat weet ik' reageren, maar ik heb deze dingen eerder ook al eens gedaan, dus ik probeerde te voorkomen dat het tweede seizoen een farce zou worden. Ik wist destijds niet of dat mogelijk was, maar we probeerden het en het lukte. We hebben het redelijk goed gedaan, zeker in beschouwing nemend dat er geheel nieuwe reglementen waren in ons tweede jaar. Ik zou zeggen dat wij geen schande voor de sport waren."

Reno

Posts: 1.575

In ieder geval is het een team die het probeert. Top!
Dat men kennis van Ferrari heeft "meegekregen" vind ik niet erg.
Misschien wel de beste manier om in te stappen in de F1 door bestaande kennis te kunnen gebruiken van een "top"-team om het eerste jaar goed door te komen.
Iets voor Liberty om o... [Lees verder]

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  • 27 dec 2017 - 20:40

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  • f1spy

    Posts: 46

    Ik blijf toch van mening dat het niet geheel volgens het gentlemen agreement is gegaan.
    Personeel van Ferrari in dienst nemen voor een aantal maand die vervolgens daarna weer aangenomen zijn bij Ferrari. Zonder dit geintje en het feit dat zo'n beetje de gehele wagen gekocht is bij Ferrari waren Gene Haas en de zijne gewoon achteraan geëindigd.
    Zelf kregen ze de remmen nog niet onder controle (aldus Grosjean).

    • + 0
    • 27 dec 2017 - 17:09
    • Ach, de titel gaan ze niet winnen en bij tijd en wijlen maken ze zichzelf goed belachelijk. Ik verwacht eerder dat ze het de komende jaren nog moeilijker gaan krijgen.

      • + 0
      • 27 dec 2017 - 18:47
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      de chassis is iedergeval niet gemaakt door ferrari ;) Is juist moeilijk om die dingen zelf te ontwerpen en bouwen je mist faciliteiten, , de eerste grote budget gaat naar het bouwen van faciliteiten, ipv dat te doen doesn ze gewoon door iemand anders laten bouwen en ontwerpen en hier en daar van ferrari. waarom zou dat niet kunnen ? iedergeval het is niet zoals Manor geeindigd, zit wel een duidelijk verschil Denk zelf met de oog op volgende seizoen chassis gewijs wat relaxter is. dus hopelijk krijgen ze de remmen gefixed, die wagen is niet traag maar ook niet langzaam, zou eerder nijgen naar niveau van williams :p allesn zitten paar coureurs in de zetel die zijn op een verkeerde manier agressief in de wagen. die zou ik eerder uitschuppen :p

      • + 0
      • 27 dec 2017 - 21:06
    • Ik zie niet in wat het probleem daarbij is. In het verleden kochten teams gewoon hele wagens over van andere teams en vond iedereen dat normaal.

      • + 1
      • 27 dec 2017 - 23:41
    • Mojito

      Posts: 4.843

      @f1spy

      Ongeacht of het fair is zoals ze het hebben gedaan moet je misschien vragen wat wij als fans nou eigenlijk willen.

      Want een Manor dat hopeloos achteraan hobbelde en met alle moeite overleefde werd hier door velen de grond weer ingeboord als F1 onwaardig.

      Dus wat willen wij als fans nou eigenlijk van nieuwe teams?

      Nieuwe teams die het puur op eigen kracht proberen en jaren in de achterhoede ploeteren om uiteindelijk via achterdeur weer te verdwijnen, of nieuwe teams die met wat hulp een start als Haas maken en daarmee mogelijk ook een langer bestaansrecht verwerven?

      Ik persoonlijk dan toch liever dat laatste!

      • + 0
      • 28 dec 2017 - 11:14
    • f1spy

      Posts: 46

      @ MOJITO, Wat dat betreft heb je helemaal gelijk. De kijkende fans willen gevechten zien op het circuit.
      Maar dat Manor in 2017 niet starte was dankzij Haas en Ferrari.Die hebben op deze wijze enkele miljoenen weg gesnoept van Manor.
      Maar goed de kijker (incl ikzelf) heeft niks met teams die alleen het veld vullen.

      • + 0
      • 28 dec 2017 - 18:03
  • Reno

    Posts: 1.575

    In ieder geval is het een team die het probeert. Top!
    Dat men kennis van Ferrari heeft "meegekregen" vind ik niet erg.
    Misschien wel de beste manier om in te stappen in de F1 door bestaande kennis te kunnen gebruiken van een "top"-team om het eerste jaar goed door te komen.
    Iets voor Liberty om over na te denken wanneer er andere teams zich melden.

    • + 1
    • 27 dec 2017 - 20:40
    • Inderdaad. @Reno.
      Ze zijn op een slimme wijze ingestapt en hebben de eerste jaren aardig wat punten bijeengesprokkeld. De overgangsfase van gekocht materiaal naar meer eigen ontwerp lijkt me wel een behoorlijke uitdaging. Maar de eerste fase was indrukwekkend.

      • + 0
      • 27 dec 2017 - 21:07
  • Ik was een van die sceptici, maar ze hebben mij het tegendeel bewezen. Ze zijn goed van start gegaan en ook met de regelwijziging en dit jaar zijn ze er niet minder op geworden.
    Daarnaast zijn ze niet voor paydrivers gegaan, wat ik ook kan waarderen.

    • + 0
    • 27 dec 2017 - 22:38
    • Carloth

      Posts: 162

      Geen paydrivers in de letterlijke zin van het woord inderdaad.

      Hoe vaak Grosjean echter al een wagen in de prak heeft gereden loopt echter wel flink in de kosten :-)

      • + 0
      • 28 dec 2017 - 10:30
  • Ze hebben het inderdaad redelijk goed gedaan. Haas is echter wel een grijze muizenteam en slechts veldvulling en meer zal het m.i. niet snel worden.

    In 2018 kan Sauber wel eens een concurrent worden.

    • + 1
    • 27 dec 2017 - 22:49
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Eens, ze zijn niet door de mand gevallen, maar zeker het 2e seizoen hadden ze wat mij betreft toch wel een stapje mogen zetten,

      • + 0
      • 28 dec 2017 - 09:07
  • Ik ben benieuwd waar Haas staat na 2 seizoenen Alfa Romeo op de grid.

    • + 0
    • 28 dec 2017 - 09:16
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Aan dit rijtje kun je ook Super Aguri toevoegen. Als er er al iets van 'bewijslast' is, is het wel dat je als nieuwkomer slechts enige kans van slagen hebt als je zwaar leunt op een bestaand topteam. Voorts, bij mijn weten noemde alleen oplichter Ecclestone nieuwe teams een schande voor F1.
    Het lijkt me interessanter om uit te zoeken hoe al die teams (Spyker/Midland, Lotus-Renault kun je wat mij betreft daar ook aan toevoegen) steeds weer op het verkeerde been worden gezet met gezwets over kostenreductie.

    • + 0
    • 28 dec 2017 - 11:32
  • Het is juist een schande om een nieuw team een schande te noemen!

    • + 0
    • 28 dec 2017 - 14:21

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