Red Bull probeert vergeefs motorenlimiet te verhogen

  • Gepubliceerd op 19 jan 2018 12:13
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Red Bull Racing-teambaas Christian Horner heeft gisteren tijdens de Strategy Group-bijeenkomst een laatste poging gedaan om de limiet van drie motoren per coureur voor een heel seizoen toch nog op te hogen voor 2018. Het mocht niet baten. Ondanks een breed gedragen verzet tegen deze motorenlimiet wist Horner zijn collega's niet achter zich te scharen om de regels nog te veranderen, meldt Tobias Grüner van Auto Motor und Sport.

Dat is opmerkelijk, aangezien er onder meerdere teams onvrede leeft over het maximum van drie motoren voor 21 Grands Prix. Mercedes-motorenbaas Andy Cowell betoogde eerder bijvoorbeeld: "Het is gekkenwerk, de motorleveranciers moeten veel onderdelen hergebruiken. We zullen tussen de tachtig en honderd motoren bouwen en die op de testbank testen. De drie of vier motoren met de beste betrouwbaarheid en de beste karakteristieken voor het overbrengen van het vermogen pikken we daar dan uit. Een enorme kostenpost die de motorleveranciers niet zomaar kunnen dekken."

McLaren-directeur Eric Boullier toonde eveneens weinig begrip voor de standpunten van de FIA. "Voor mij gaat dit te ver, voor mij is dit geen Formule 1 meer. Met minder en minder motoren kost het de motorleveranciers juist meer om ze betrouwbaar te maken." De internationale autosportbond is echter niet gevoelig voor al deze smeekbedes en hield gewoon voet bij stuk met het maximum toegestane aantal motoren van drie voor het gehele komende seizoen.

Ondanks het heersende ongenoegen bleek er ook onder de leden van de Strategy Group geen animo om de reglementen voor 2018 in dit stadium nog overhoop te halen en de motorenlimiet te verhogen naar vier of vijf krachtbronnen voor het hele seizoen.

daarom

Posts: 987

Zodra Ferrari de tweede motor ploft en dus de derde gaat gebruiken in het eerste kwartaal van het seizoen wordt de regel direct aangepast, dus heb geduld Meneer Horner ;)

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  • 19 jan 2018 - 16:12

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  • volgens mij gaat er iets niet goed. Ik lees Red bull probeert vergeefs motorenlimiet te verhogen. Met reacties er onder over Giedo die WEC gaat doen bij RFH.

    • + 1
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:06
    • En na verversen komt het goed. Toch even on topic reageren, ik had ook niet anders verwacht.

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:07
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Dan maar on topic: gebrek aan visie versus krokodillentranen, zo zou je bovenstaande soap kunnen bestempelen.

      Eigenlijk is dit een botsing tussen twee werelden waarbij de ene partij weigert zich te verplaatsen in de denkwereld van de ander, en dus ieder zijn eigen zin doet. Zie daar Formule 1 anno 2018.

      De FIA vaardigt vanuit haar ivoren toren halfbakken maatregelen uit die geen zoden aan de dijk zetten. Men wil kostenbesparing, maar zonder sluitende maatregelen floept het geld er aan de andere kant weer uit.

      Fabrikanten daarentegen hebben bepaald geen boodschap aan wat de FIA wil of beoogt en voeren hun eigen agenda: een winnende motor bouwen, koste wat kost. Het is voor hen niet moeilijk om een betaalbare motor te maken die 1/3e van het seizoen meegaat, probleem is alleen dat deze minder hard gaat. Plus dat ze er voor hun overige activiteiten niet veel wijzer van worden.
      Het lijkt vrij duidelijk dat zij ervoor kiezen FIA's beleid met opzet te saboteren. Waarom? Daarvoor moet je in de psychologie van de fabrikant duiken. Een minder snelle motor maken dan waartoe je eigenlijk in staat bent, past heel slecht in hun visie. Het is, zeg maar, tegennatuurlijk en moeilijk verteerbaar. Je moet dus met zeer goede argumenten en sluitende maatregelen komen willen zij daaraan meewerken. Als die ontbreken, gaat die fabrikant denken: wat als mijn concurrent zich niet aan dit herenakkoord houdt? Een winnende motor is je alles, je ziel en zaligheid, je reputatie en wellicht uiteindelijk je baan.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 12:37
  • Yep, hier ook

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:07
  • Wat is dan het argument van de FIA om het niet te verhogen?

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:15
    • Todt: “We hebben dit besluit nou eenmaal genomen, daarom.”

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 00:42
  • Gefeliciteerd Jenson!!!

    • + 1
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:15
  • Stoffel kan heus wel met die druk overweg.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:25
    • toch zit die Halo me flink dwars

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:37
    • Bij mij is het gebak van Tarso Marques niet goed gevallen.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 00:45
  • Ik had nooit verwacht dat Max alsnog zou opstappen en naar Merc zou gaan. Ookal is het logisch. Max maakt nu echt kans om WK te worden alleen staat Lewis in de weg vrees ik. Max zal zich snel moeten aanpassen.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 13:29
    • Supertof, ben ook dolblij dat de FIA de 3 motorenregel blijft handhaven zodat hij geen tegenstand van RBR en Ricciardo hoeft te verwachten, en hij zich volledig op de titelstrijd met Lewis kan richten.

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:33
    • Mijn reactie hoort onder het topic; Breaking: Verstappen breekt met Red Bull.

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:33
    • vind het ook geweldig dat Max Vandoorne naar Mercedes gaat om daar naast Lewis Alonso te rijden, hij kan die druk makkelijk aan, het is de beste Russische piloot tot op heden.

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:34
    • van Dan nog wat geef deze! &89-

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:52
    • weet nog niet, zat er wel aan te denken ja

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:54
    • Schatje, heb je al gereserveerd bij Que Pasa?

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 13:57
    • wtf jij niet hoor Jean

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 14:02
    • nee ga vh weekend ff naar boccaccio in Laren denk, ook goeie verhalen over gehoord

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 14:15
    • Franse kaart Jean?

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 15:37
    • geen idee waar de dames vandaan komen...

      • + 0
      • 19 jan 2018 - 15:42
  • Ieder logisch denkend mens begrijpt dat met de huidige complexe motor deze situatie juist duurder is. Daarnaast komt het de F1 ook niet ten goede, want zeker aan het einde van het jaar regent het weer gridstraffen.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 14:05
  • ringo

    Posts: 3.629

    Mercedes motoren zijn betrouwbaarder en krachtig de andere motoren fabrikanten hobbelt wat achteraan, beetje goede strategie van Mercedes zijn ze deze jaar weer niet te kloppen. Denk wel dat Ferrari 2017 wel op zijn maximum zit en zal in 2018 ook maximum moeten doen dus die zal net als renault al snel overschreden worden.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 14:41
  • daarom

    Posts: 987

    Zodra Ferrari de tweede motor ploft en dus de derde gaat gebruiken in het eerste kwartaal van het seizoen wordt de regel direct aangepast, dus heb geduld Meneer Horner ;)

    • + 2
    • 19 jan 2018 - 16:12
  • rickf1

    Posts: 1.623

    Motoren bouwers zijn voor een verhoging. De teams zijn tegen.

    • + 1
    • 19 jan 2018 - 16:51
  • Wat Horner en Boeler nou echt proberen te zeggen: Renault zit niet goed met de betrouwbaarheid bij voluit en dat treft ons dus moeten ze de regels veranderen. Politieke BS iedereen lult en acteert naar zijn eigen straatje.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 17:32
    • Maakt mij niet uit wat de teambaasjes willen. Als F1-liefhebber – en ben vast de enige niet – wil ik volop actie zien, coureurs die het maximale uit hun auto halen, kortom: racen.

      Dat gaat met de driemotorenregel niet lukken, zelfs Hamilton klaagde hierover. Het wordt zuinigjes aan rijden en als een schaker tijden nadenken over de volgende verstandige, zuinige zet.
      En hoeveel wordt er dit seizoen nog in de vrije trainingen gereden...?

      Dat Horner en Boullier vanuit hun belangen hetzelfde willen helpt de zaak van de liefhebbers alleen maar, dus prima.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 01:07
  • Renegade

    Posts: 92

    Het plezier in de F1 is volledig verdampt, zo jammer dat Max in deze onzin terecht gekomen is. De hoogste klasse van de Autosport gaat er onderdoor aan de regeltjes, niet de snelste wordt Wereldkampioen maar diegene die de minste gridstraffen krijgt. Zal mijn L*L uit mijn broek lachen als Sauber straks de Wereldkampioen levert.
    Weg spanning, weg strategie, gewoon zorgen dat je finished en geen gridsfraffen oploopt.
    BS.

    • + 0
    • 19 jan 2018 - 18:48
    • Hoop dan dat Sauber géén WK wordt!

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 01:08
    • Musky

      Posts: 2.187

      Max heeft wel begrip voor je goede woorden en het is even door die zure appel heen bijten dan kom je daar ook wel overheen.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2018 - 14:58
  • Mercedes is de enige die kans maakt om het te redden met 3 motoren, zeker omdat ze kunnen terugschroeven zonder al te veel te verliezen op de concurrentie. Ik denk dat Mercedes gewoon echt een dikke vinger in de pap heeft als het gaat om dit besluit. Het is gewoon een belachelijk idee, dus kan dit volgens mij de enige reden zijn.

    • + 0
    • 20 jan 2018 - 14:14

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